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dbm
 
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I don't think there has been any confirmation of the church person or that those calls had even existed.
- The Sheriff initially referenced that someone from church had called the family, the family went to the house to check on Nancy, spent about an hour there before calling 911.
- Then reports came out that the church itself had said Nancy had only attended online services since COVID on a livestream where you can't really tell who is watching or not. The sheriff at the next press conference made no mention of anyone from church calling. He said only that the family went to check on Nancy, and suddenly the time was at 11:56am and they called 911 at 12:03pm.
So conflicting info, but I don't think we have ever gotten a clear answer.


Yes. And also that this family has the ability come up with a large amount on the fly, where not everyone has easy access to 6 million dollars or whatever the demanded amount is.
They don’t have that money to come up with on the fly. You can only have so much in a bank account (that will be insured) and the rest usually goes into investments. That’s how people with real money do it. Savannah would have to start liquidating. At most she could have $250,000 in the bank at her disposal. $6 million takes time to retrieve. I doubt Savannah has gold bars just sitting around in her home. People have this idea that rich people live like Scrooge McDuck jumping into piles of gold.
 
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Unless, they had an unwitting source that released such information.
Like where her watch could be found? I doubt that.
 
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Because the ransom note author demanded $6 million or else.
Yes, 6 million or else.It's been an entire week. What was the holdup? It's your mother! You are wealthy. Even IF it's a scam having paid within the first two days of the ransom note to 3 places may have brought two things I can think of that might be positive:
1) Possibly the return of the mother
2) If not, then possibly the capture because of the withdrawal of funds from the named Bitcoin pocket the FBI is watching.
 
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Bringing the timeline again for all of our memories:


5:32 p.m.Guthrie takes an Uber to her daughter Annie's home for dinner.
9:48 p.m.Guthrie is dropped off by her son-in-law and Annie's husband, TC
9:50 p.m.Guthrie's garage door is closed at 9:50 p.m. Tommaso reportedly drives off at this time.
Saturday, January 31, 2026

1:47 a.m.A doorbell camera at Guthrie's home disconnects.
2:12 a.m.Software detects someone on one of the other cameras, but no video is available.
2:28 a.m.Guthrie's pacemaker app is disconnected from her phone.
~11 a.m.A churchgoer calls Guthrie's family to report that Guthrie never made it to church.
11:56 a.m.Relatives arrive at Guthrie's home and discover that she is missing.
12:03 p.m.Guthrie's family calls the police.
12:15 p.m.Police from the Pima County Sheriff's Department arrive.
Sunday, February 1, 2026
More here:
 
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I have no confidence that the septic tanks or cisterns in the yard can be adequately evaluated by a deputy with a pole. These need to be drained and a camera sent down!!!
Yup…been watching them look down them with a pin light for a while. Are they trying to ”look” busy? Do they not have a camera to send down?
 
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How large is the septic tank opening? How easy is it to access?
A person could easily pass through the opening. Removing the lid is a matter of ease, a few bolts and it's off. BTW, I'm very knowledgeable when it comes to on site septic systems 👍

Edit to add, many new systems have more than one tank underground.
 
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The filing date stands out to me, only because it's the year her husband, Charles, died.

"June 10, 1988, at age 46 while on a work trip in Mexico."
Perhaps NG worked with her husband? Did he own his own company and she was employed there? Just a guess. OMO.
 
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The Super Bowl really is a huge thing in America. It’s a one game, winner-take-all, as opposed to seven games like the World Series.

Then the Taylor Swiftiness has attracted millions of her fans.

Having said that, imo LE who might long to sit and watch it or bet on it (that’s an enormous part) are going to prioritize Nancy’s case when every moment counts.

Unless they’re someone like Nanos going to a basketball game. Not that he can’t have a private life but this is NOT the time, IMO. I believe the FBI will diligently pursue this case despite missing the game.

I myself came home from Florida yesterday partially because I wanted to see the game in my own environment.


Here’s a link to the notorious simultaneous toilet-flushing phenomenon during Super Bowl halftimes.

In this case the link is from NYC government, but it is common in America.

I am absolutely not a fan of the sheriff for other reasons, but he has people working on the case. He does not need to be directly involved so he can be out and do what he likes. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.


In my opinion, he’s free to do as he wants unless he’s absolutely directly needed. Which he’s really not going to be at this point. Those who report directly to him are working on the case.
 
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An accidental killing seems very possible.
I don’t think it was accidental.More an intentional murder with the ransom as cover-up.
 
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DBM
 
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A better use of their time and resources would just be to ask the media that has been camped out at the house 24/7 the past week.
Good point!
 
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Would this require a warrant?
Not if they happen to reach the home owner by phone and they gave permission to search the property.
 
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