AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[nightowl2728]

Respectfully, an 84 year old woman who has been said cannot ambulate further than ETA: 50yds with a cane, and who has been said to need daily medication for survival would indeed be considered frail, in the plain sense of the word. She is on blood thinners and has bandages, bruises and wounds in several photos. Have you listened to her speaking in the cactus margarita scene with SG? There is an element of frailty there. And I don't mean that disrespectfully. Many 84 year olds would not be considered frail. I would consider my 93 year old grandmother frail and very comparable in the physical condition of NG.

I agree. My point in bringing up the age/drop off time, etc. is to try and determine what may be atypical. I certainly don't know what's typical for NG - but based on the information shared about her (mobility issues, daily medications to survive - which, in all likelihood need to be taken a certain times which means she probably has some sort of "normal" schedule) it is entirely reasonable to think she may be in bed earlier than someone her age who doesn't have such limitations.

From my own life, my grandfather was completely independent in terms of driving, being out late with my grandmother, etc. (which we loved for him) until his early 90s when he had a fall in the home. He was never the same after - not just physically but also mentally. My grandmother is younger than him but took a very quick turn with mobility as well recently. I think what people without this life experience don't realize is that an elderly person can be fine until they're not. There can be a huge difference between a 70 year old and an 85 year old. Or an 84 year old with mobility issues versus a 90 year old who does not have that. It's not agism or an an attack on autonomy or criticism/judgement of an older person with DIFFERENT circumstances. In our family, the grandparents WANT our help now. Preventing another fall is crucial for them to not have to move to assisted living.

My point in saying it was odd the SIL apparently "dropped her off" that late is that I imagine that a caring family member would have made sure she was settled in, likely earlier, given her limitations. Of course, her circumstances could be completely different and maybe she doesn't need the help. However, this was the NIGHT that she went missing. So analyzing the time, her schedule, the conditions, are RELEVANT. I'm not sure what else we have to go on, in any case, other than what is already being discussed in this forum.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

An accidental killing seems very possible.

If a family member was involved, an accidental killing seems quite possible.

 

[SaraSmile]

I am sorry @academyrd .... I had read your post totally wrong

Early on, there was lots of back and forth about how/why she was missed, so as to alarm someone in the church, because she would zoom in to those services.

I believe most of us were feeling that this was totally credible....
We had Zoom services in my church during Covid, and we, in the Church, could always look at the Zoom screen to see who was "dialing in".

But you seem to be questioning the WHY the family would bother to check in on NG. I believe the following answers that question.

I thought we read that LE had questioned the Church person and determined she made two calls:
1)Nancy's phone and then
2)Family's phone

I have seen a lot of people saying "would you/they pay ransom for the body"

But at that point, though I'm sure yes you would prefer to have the body returned, that isn't really what you're paying for. You're paying for certainty. Not having that, and going through the rest of your life without it, would truly be horrendous - that's the real high value thing here, not the body itself.

Agreed, I think this is why SG said they would pay. I know people hate the word “ closure”.How could there ever be closure after something like this, very traumatizing!

That said, I do believe, the certainty, if they could get the body back, might bring a small measure of peace, and knowing they did all they could. So very sad…

Then, as they seem quite Christian, they could have a proper funeral and body burial.

 

[KrisCo16]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020601375475011940

Would this require a warrant?

 

[submarine7]

Looking at this still pic right here of the video, SG looks p***ed and AG looks guilty. Brother seems emotionless for some reason

I thought I read that SG’s dad was a mining engineer?

Lots of mining in mexico

 

[EJB123456]

I don't even know why this keeps coming up. It's been eye-opening in a way to see how many treat the elderly as totally lacking independence and autonomy. Jmo.

Funny cuz I keep reading these comments and thinking: oh I’m the worst, I should be helping my parents more and treating them like the elderly people they are.

 

[KBlackRabbit]

I thought about that and my only problem with it is, how do you find someone that quickly that is not just capable of perpetuating the ransom thing, but is willing to break the law and receive serious jail time if they are found out.

Too many people are brazen and greedy. People will walk out of a store with sophisticated surveillance proud as can be without paying for items. If people are openly willing to risk a felony (in some places the threshold dollar amount is pretty low) over electronics or perfume or a cart full of groceries, they’ll do it for a bigger jackpot.

If she runs in circles with certain eccentricities I can imagine it wouldn’t be too hard to find a crypto guy who wants a cut of $6 million and thinks he can get away with it by running the messages through a VPN chain or whatever it is they do to hide tracks.

 

[stmichael]

I have no confidence that the septic tanks or cisterns in the yard can be adequately evaluated by a deputy with a pole. These need to be drained and a camera sent down!!!

Was thinking the same thing. When they announced they were there for an hour and left, I'm thinking sheesh, they'll be back in a few more days for an actual evaluation.

 

[osu]

dbm

 

[SMK777]

If a family member was involved, an accidental killing seems quite possible.

Yes, if considering the SIL, I've never thought it was premeditated.

 

[tbgo]

I don't think there has been any confirmation of the church person or that those calls had even existed.
- The Sheriff initially referenced that someone from church had called the family, the family went to the house to check on Nancy, spent about an hour there before calling 911.
- Then reports came out that the church itself had said Nancy had only attended online services since COVID on a livestream where you can't really tell who is watching or not. The sheriff at the next press conference made no mention of anyone from church calling. He said only that the family went to check on Nancy, and suddenly the time was at 11:56am and they called 911 at 12:03pm.
So conflicting info, but I don't think we have ever gotten a clear answer.


Yes. And also that this family has the ability come up with a large amount on the fly, where not everyone has easy access to 6 million dollars or whatever the demanded amount is.

They don’t have that money to come up with on the fly. You can only have so much in a bank account (that will be insured) and the rest usually goes into investments. That’s how people with real money do it. Savannah would have to start liquidating. At most she could have $250,000 in the bank at her disposal. $6 million takes time to retrieve. I doubt Savannah has gold bars just sitting around in her home. People have this idea that rich people live like Scrooge McDuck jumping into piles of gold.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Basis Oro Valley. It’s one of the best schools in Arizona, I think even in the entire country. Known for extremely rigorous classes and a lot of homework, and students experiencing burnout/transferring schools if they can’t handle it.

He teaches 6th grade and AP Biology and has been there at least 5 years. As per "Men's Journal". Link: Tommaso Cioni, Nancy Guthrie's Son-in-Law, Was a Poet and Teacher

 

[maskedwoman]

Unless, they had an unwitting source that released such information.

Like where her watch could be found? I doubt that.

 

[Inthedetails]

Would this require a warrant?

I am assuming they have one.

jmo

 

[Leomoon80]

Because the ransom note author demanded $6 million or else.

Yes, 6 million or else.It's been an entire week. What was the holdup? It's your mother! You are wealthy. Even IF it's a scam having paid within the first two days of the ransom note to 3 places may have brought two things I can think of that might be positive:
1) Possibly the return of the mother
2) If not, then possibly the capture because of the withdrawal of funds from the named Bitcoin pocket the FBI is watching.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Bringing the timeline again for all of our memories:

5:32 p.m.	Guthrie takes an Uber to her daughter Annie's home for dinner.
9:48 p.m.	Guthrie is dropped off by her son-in-law and Annie's husband, Tommaso Cioni.
9:50 p.m.	Guthrie's garage door is closed at 9:50 p.m. Tommaso reportedly drives off at this time.

Saturday, January 31, 2026

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1:47 a.m.	A doorbell camera at Guthrie's home disconnects.
2:12 a.m.	Software detects someone on one of the other cameras, but no video is available.
2:28 a.m.	Guthrie's pacemaker app is disconnected from her phone.
~11 a.m.	A churchgoer calls Guthrie's family to report that Guthrie never made it to church.
11:56 a.m.	Relatives arrive at Guthrie's home and discover that she is missing.
12:03 p.m.	Guthrie's family calls the police.
12:15 p.m.	Police from the Pima County Sheriff's Department arrive.

Sunday, February 1, 2026
More here:

A timeline of the disappearance of and search for Nancy Guthrie

Five days into the desperate search for 84-year-old Guthrie, the mother of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie, investigators on Thursday released a detailed timeline.

www.pbs.org

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[Simply Southern]

I have no confidence that the septic tanks or cisterns in the yard can be adequately evaluated by a deputy with a pole. These need to be drained and a camera sent down!!!

Yup…been watching them look down them with a pin light for a while. Are they trying to ”look” busy? Do they not have a camera to send down?

 

[Moonsie]

Oh goodness. What are the looking at there? Is that the sewer?


Investigators from the Pima County Sheriff’s Department are back at Nancy Guthrie’s home. @abc15’s drone capturing this image of their work in the backyard

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020558944239014183

Location of the Apple Watch?

moo.

 

[thefragile7393]

Lots of mining in mexico

Plus here too. Both have pretty big mining operations still to this day.

 

[MTW2011]

Would this require a warrant?

They posted an update,
“UPDATE: just spoke to one of the sheriff deputies on the scene, he confirmed this visit was about a trespassing complaint”