• #12,741
Yes, 6 million or else.It's been an entire week. What was the holdup? It's your mother! You are wealthy. Even IF it's a scam having paid within the first two days of the ransom note to 3 places may have brought two things I can think of that might be positive:
1) Possibly the return of the mother
2) If not, then possibly the capture because of the withdrawal of funds from the named Bitcoin pocket the FBI is watching.


They would have a hard time ever recovering that Bitcoin and would not know if that party was actually involved. You don't just send $6M without any proof of life based on an already shaky ransom email. Then another ransom from someone else pops up (we've already had one scammer arrested in this case). The Lindbergh baby kidnapping had 5 fake ransom notes. Plus, I know SG makes $8M a year from NBC, but we really don't know she's liquid for $6M in a week.
 
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Why if it was the sil - would they risk abducting her from her bed? Seems bizarre .
Staged after accidental killing during argument?
 
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How large is the septic tank opening? How easy is it to access?
Ours cover is held in place with 4 screws.Out in a minute using a drill..
 
  • #12,745
I hate to say this but I honestly don't think that it was a "what" they were searching for, it was a "who". JMO

Cops investigating the disappearance of Savannah Guthrie’s mom Nancy searched a septic tank behind her house Sunday, with drone footage showing them opening a manhole cover in the backyard.

Three detectives were spotted sticking a long pole down the manhole behind the house, although no further information has been released on what they were looking for.


 
  • #12,746
I thought I read that SG’s dad was a mining engineer?
I read the same. If anybody knows if "People" is not a valid source, please let me know and I'll delete this post.

Here's what "People" magazine said:

Charles worked as a mining engineer in Australia, though he and his wife Nancy brought their family to Arizona when Savannah was young.

In a June 2014 essay for Today in honor of Father's Day, Savannah reflected on her late dad, who died of a sudden heart attack in 1988.

The link to this article is: https://people.com/all-about-savannah-guthrie-family-dad-siblings-11898271
 
  • #12,747
They don’t have that money to come up with on the fly. You can only have so much in a bank account (that will be insured) and the rest usually goes into investments. That’s how people with real money do it. Savannah would have to start liquidating. She probably has $150,000 in the bank at her disposal. $6 million takes time to retrieve. I doubt Savannah has gold bars just sitting around in her home. People have this idea that rich people live like Scrooge McDuck jumping into piles of gold.
this has been hashed over before but SG has relationship with her bank and investment people and could come up with that cash in a more speedy timeframe than most. She can and probably has got the cash required together.
 
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I apologize, but I have searched and read the posts and re-read the posts and the watch/phone/pacemaker connection is something I don't understand. I am not at all familiar with pacemakers and any app/monitoring it would connect to.

Can someone explain how the pacemaker/watch/phone thing works & what it detects & doesn't detect & what it means when it "disconnects"? I mean explain it like I'm 5. Please.
 
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Corrected. NG attended a Presbyterian church. Her daughter attended an Episcopal church. I still don't think it odd to have a service at the church the daughter attends.
That’s interesting—I do wonder how someone at NGs church would have had AG’s contact information so readily available then (if the calls even happened). I thought they might have attended the same church, this congregants knew both mom and daughter. I assume they first would have called Nancy’s phone and then her daughter so it was prob pretty easy to confirm if the call was false. Which I think it was.
 
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WHO SAID THEY WANTED TO KIDNAP SAVANNAH? ACCORDING TO MANY POSTERS HERE, SHE WAS GOING TO BE THE BITCOIN DONOR.
Umm you suggested someone she worked with could be involved.
 
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They don’t have that money to come up with on the fly. You can only have so much in a bank account (that will be insured) and the rest usually goes into investments. That’s how people with real money do it. Savannah would have to start liquidating. She probably has $150,000 in the bank at her disposal. $6 million takes time to retrieve. I doubt Savannah has gold bars just sitting around in her home. People have this idea that rich people live like Scrooge McDuck jumping into piles of gold.
It's very likely that after the first note, she started preparing for the "cash" to be available to convert. I strongly believe many parties have reached out to help her. So the sum has been waiting for the decision to transfer. My take on the amount is 2M is too low and 10M is too high, so they went with 6M hoping the transfer would be earlier in the week. Everyone can ballpark SG net worth with Google.
 
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Bringing the timeline again for all of our memories:


5:32 p.m.Guthrie takes an Uber to her daughter Annie's home for dinner.
9:48 p.m.Guthrie is dropped off by her son-in-law and Annie's husband, Tommaso Cioni.
9:50 p.m.Guthrie's garage door is closed at 9:50 p.m. Tommaso reportedly drives off at this time.
Saturday, January 31, 2026

1:47 a.m.A doorbell camera at Guthrie's home disconnects.
2:12 a.m.Software detects someone on one of the other cameras, but no video is available.
2:28 a.m.Guthrie's pacemaker app is disconnected from her phone.
~11 a.m.A churchgoer calls Guthrie's family to report that Guthrie never made it to church.
11:56 a.m.Relatives arrive at Guthrie's home and discover that she is missing.
12:03 p.m.Guthrie's family calls the police.
12:15 p.m.Police from the Pima County Sheriff's Department arrive.
Sunday, February 1, 2026
More here:
Thank you for this! Does anyone have a link to more information about the Ring camera? I could have sworn I read that it was physically removed but can’t find anything like that when I Google. Curious about the nature of the “disconnect”
 
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Perhaps NG worked with her husband? Did he own his own company and she was employed there? Just a guess. OMO.
This seems likely and the other person listed was a partner. Many businesses are registered in nevada for tax reasons. Also, I wondered if it was perhaps a mining related business?
 
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That’s interesting—I do wonder how someone at NGs church would have had AG’s contact information so readily available then (if the calls even happened). I thought they might have attended the same church, this congregants knew both mom and daughter. I assume they first would have called Nancy’s phone and then her daughter so it was prob pretty easy to confirm if the call was false. Which I think it was.
Same here.
 
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I apologize, but I have searched and read the posts and re-read the posts and the watch/phone/pacemaker connection is something I don't understand. I am not at all familiar with pacemakers and any app/monitoring it would connect to.

Can someone explain how the pacemaker/watch/phone thing works & what it detects & doesn't detect & what it means when it "disconnects"? I mean explain it like I'm 5. Please.
Pacemaker + Apple Watch;

How They Work Together
  • Heart Rate Monitoring: The Apple Watch uses optical sensors (photoplethysmography) to track heart rate, which is useful for patients with pacemakers to ensure their heart rate stays within desired, doctor-prescribed ranges.
  • Activity Tracking: The watch helps monitor daily activity levels, which is useful for patients whose pacemakers are programmed to adjust heart rate based on movement.
  • Irregular Rhythm Notifications: The watch can alert users if it detects heart rhythms that appear to be atrial fibrillation (AFib).
  • ECG Feature: The ECG app can record a 1-lead electrocardiogram. However, if a pacemaker is actively pacing, the ECG may be "confused" by the electrical signals from the pacemaker, often leading to inconclusive results.
  • Data Sharing: Users can share heart rate data and ECGs with their cardiologists.
 
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