AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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How large is the septic tank opening? How easy is it to access?
A person could easily pass through the opening. Removing the lid is a matter of ease, a few bolts and it's off. BTW, I'm very knowledgeable when it comes to on site septic systems 👍

Edit to add, many new systems have more than one tank underground.
 
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The filing date stands out to me, only because it's the year her husband, Charles, died.

"June 10, 1988, at age 46 while on a work trip in Mexico."
Perhaps NG worked with her husband? Did he own his own company and she was employed there? Just a guess. OMO.
 
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The Super Bowl really is a huge thing in America. It’s a one game, winner-take-all, as opposed to seven games like the World Series.

Then the Taylor Swiftiness has attracted millions of her fans.

Having said that, imo LE who might long to sit and watch it or bet on it (that’s an enormous part) are going to prioritize Nancy’s case when every moment counts.

Unless they’re someone like Nanos going to a basketball game. Not that he can’t have a private life but this is NOT the time, IMO. I believe the FBI will diligently pursue this case despite missing the game.

I myself came home from Florida yesterday partially because I wanted to see the game in my own environment.


Here’s a link to the notorious simultaneous toilet-flushing phenomenon during Super Bowl halftimes.

In this case the link is from NYC government, but it is common in America.

I am absolutely not a fan of the sheriff for other reasons, but he has people working on the case. He does not need to be directly involved so he can be out and do what he likes. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.


In my opinion, he’s free to do as he wants unless he’s absolutely directly needed. Which he’s really not going to be at this point. Those who report directly to him are working on the case.
 
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An accidental killing seems very possible.
I don’t think it was accidental.More an intentional murder with the ransom as cover-up.
 
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DBM
 
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A better use of their time and resources would just be to ask the media that has been camped out at the house 24/7 the past week.
Good point!
 
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Would this require a warrant?
Not if they happen to reach the home owner by phone and they gave permission to search the property.
 
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Yes, 6 million or else.It's been an entire week. What was the holdup? It's your mother! You are wealthy. Even IF it's a scam having paid within the first two days of the ransom note to 3 places may have brought two things I can think of that might be positive:
1) Possibly the return of the mother
2) If not, then possibly the capture because of the withdrawal of funds from the named Bitcoin pocket the FBI is watching.


They would have a hard time ever recovering that Bitcoin and would not know if that party was actually involved. You don't just send $6M without any proof of life based on an already shaky ransom email. Then another ransom from someone else pops up (we've already had one scammer arrested in this case). The Lindbergh baby kidnapping had 5 fake ransom notes. Plus, I know SG makes $8M a year from NBC, but we really don't know she's liquid for $6M in a week.
 
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Why if it was the sil - would they risk abducting her from her bed? Seems bizarre .
Staged after accidental killing during argument?
 
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How large is the septic tank opening? How easy is it to access?
Ours cover is held in place with 4 screws.Out in a minute using a drill..
 
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I hate to say this but I honestly don't think that it was a "what" they were searching for, it was a "who". JMO

Cops investigating the disappearance of Savannah Guthrie’s mom Nancy searched a septic tank behind her house Sunday, with drone footage showing them opening a manhole cover in the backyard.

Three detectives were spotted sticking a long pole down the manhole behind the house, although no further information has been released on what they were looking for.


 
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I thought I read that SG’s dad was a mining engineer?
I read the same. If anybody knows if "People" is not a valid source, please let me know and I'll delete this post.

Here's what "People" magazine said:

Charles worked as a mining engineer in Australia, though he and his wife Nancy brought their family to Arizona when Savannah was young.

In a June 2014 essay for Today in honor of Father's Day, Savannah reflected on her late dad, who died of a sudden heart attack in 1988.

The link to this article is: https://people.com/all-about-savannah-guthrie-family-dad-siblings-11898271
 
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They don’t have that money to come up with on the fly. You can only have so much in a bank account (that will be insured) and the rest usually goes into investments. That’s how people with real money do it. Savannah would have to start liquidating. She probably has $150,000 in the bank at her disposal. $6 million takes time to retrieve. I doubt Savannah has gold bars just sitting around in her home. People have this idea that rich people live like Scrooge McDuck jumping into piles of gold.
this has been hashed over before but SG has relationship with her bank and investment people and could come up with that cash in a more speedy timeframe than most. She can and probably has got the cash required together.
 
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I apologize, but I have searched and read the posts and re-read the posts and the watch/phone/pacemaker connection is something I don't understand. I am not at all familiar with pacemakers and any app/monitoring it would connect to.

Can someone explain how the pacemaker/watch/phone thing works & what it detects & doesn't detect & what it means when it "disconnects"? I mean explain it like I'm 5. Please.
 
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Corrected. NG attended a Presbyterian church. Her daughter attended an Episcopal church. I still don't think it odd to have a service at the church the daughter attends.
That’s interesting—I do wonder how someone at NGs church would have had AG’s contact information so readily available then (if the calls even happened). I thought they might have attended the same church, this congregants knew both mom and daughter. I assume they first would have called Nancy’s phone and then her daughter so it was prob pretty easy to confirm if the call was false. Which I think it was.
 

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