Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I wish we knew if NG regularly attended the 9am or the 10:45 Sunday service.

 

[BrittMontero]

I am looking into the confusion surrounding the parishioner who first notified Nancy’s family of her absence. While few details were provided—and the information was eventually omitted from the press conference's updated timeline—the timing is critical.
Many believe the family was called(we're still uncertain how they were notified whether they went by Annie's house or called her) at 11:00 AM, but I find that unlikely. An alarm wouldn't typically be sounded only 15 minutes after a service begins; it is more probable that the call occurred after Mass ended and Nancy’s absence was confirmed. Based on the church website, the timeline becomes much clearer:
Contemporary Mass: Early morning.
Traditional Mass: Starts at 10:45 AM.
Assuming Nancy attended the traditional service, which typically lasts 60 minutes, the Mass would have concluded around 11:45 AM. This creates a very narrow window between the end of the service and the moment the family arrived at Nancy’s house to discover the scene.
It is likely the family made several calls while en route, which may have served as an additional red flag. Furthermore, we should consider if Nancy used an automated medication dispenser; these devices often sound an alarm or alert a designated family member if a dose isn't taken, which could have been another factor in the family's quick response.

But if she and her friends attended via Zoom, multiple things can happen at once.

The concerned person could have texted while viewing the service, or stepped away and phone AG, as early as 10:50 if she didn’t see NG online.

I’m in a lot of Zoom meetings and depending on the group, we sometimes log in 5-10 minutes early to chat before the official proceedings begin. If this was the routine for a cohort of NG’s friends, they would have noted her absence AND been able to call or text AG well before 11am.

 

[shonyakay]

Pretty sure they also have a 9 a.m. service. JMO

Nancy's church Catalina Foothills Church (CFC) in Tucson offers two Sunday services: a Traditional Service at 8:45 AM and a Modern Service at 10:45 AM. Both services last approximately 60 minutes.

 

[Jade]

I'll chime in as someone who has served on every kind of committee at church - if someone is signed up to do something Sunday morning, an absence is definitely noted! Did she serve as greeter, coffee hour hostess, altar prep. Was she in t he choir or scheduled to read scripture, etc? I know she can't walk long distances but it's not out of the realm she can still volunteer to serve at church.

If not, I would think a friend would wait until service is over before alerting a family member. I mean, people are sometimes late, ykwim?

Having said that, I have doubts about the call from a church friend. Did it really happen? idk

jmo

I was under the impression that Mrs. Guthrie was missed at Sunday school first.

If her friends had expected her then and she still hadn’t arrived in time for the regular service I can see them becoming concerned enough to go ahead and call to check on her at that time.


All imo

 

[shonyakay]

DBM

 

[cady]

And we've went from "friend" to "church lady". JMO

May have been a male, who knows? JMO

 

[SlimPickens]

I saw this. I wonder what the abductors think now that everyone is watching the bitcoin account.

The second letter could've provided other instructions or another account altogether ("we understand" and "we will pay"), but with the information we have it is not a good sign to see that account still empty.

JMO.

 

[TravelingBug]

This has probably been asked/answered multiple times, but I have not read where SG was at the time of her mother's disappearance or when she arrived in Tucson. Presumably, SG was preparing to go to Milan to cover the Olympics for the Today
Show. I know that she had vocal cord surgery and had taken time off from her hosting duties to recuperate. Was she at home (in New York) or had she been in Tucson during her recovery from surgery?

She was in NY. She had been on Today the week prior and was supposed to be on on Monday morning, as well.

She was leaving onTuesday morning for Milan.

Sen. Mark Kelly said she called him on Sunday as she was leaving NY to fly out to AZ to ask for help with everything with her mom.

 

[Irish1]

No, not the usual targets. But their targets are anyone they can get money for.

I don't think cartels are the most likely perpetrators but I am firmly behind a kidnapping for ransom as opposed to a family member.

Due to the disruption of cartels normal business (drugs) into the United States, might they be exploring new revenue streams IMHO.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

I was under the impression that Mrs. Guthrie was missed at Sunday school first.

If her friends had expected her then and she still hadn’t arrived in time for the regular service I can see them becoming concerned enough to go ahead and call to check on her at that time.


All imo

Yes, it rings true to me, too. But it seems LE is distancing it from the timeline and that makes me hop on the fence about it.

jmo

 

[birdbox]

Id be curious if TC took any phone calls or made any phone calls during the 10 minute ride with NG in the car. A phone call that would have been revealing of something hidden such as an affair or something of that nature. Bluetooth connect speakerphone, etc? I wonder if LE has looked at his phone log?

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Due to the disruption of cartels normal business (drugs) into the United States, might they be exploring new revenue streams IMHO.

I'd think the business model would be to get the money swiftly, while this is lingering on.

jmo

 

[TheRaven]

Regarding the blood on the porch. It was her birthday weekend. Someone could have sent flowers and when she went to get them she could have cut her hand or whatever body part, picked them up and went back in. That could have happened that morning or afternoon. The day before. Who knows. The fact that it was pretty isolated is puzzling.

I’m wondering if the big clue is with the phone call from a church goer to, presumably, AG. When did it come in? Is there a record of a phone call to Nancy’s phone from her kid(s). What time did they call? When did they go over? There has to be a reason why police totally took that out of the timeline. They initially said there was an hour between arrival time at Nancy’s house and the 911 call.

Did Nancy tell them she wouldn’t be going to church the next day because of the prior night’s dinner? If so (we probably will never know), did AG show little concern and just assumed Nancy slept in?

Sooooo much to contemplate!

I want to know if there were more blood drops further down the porch or inside the house….seems like there would have been at least a few more spots…..

 

[BrittMontero]

I was under the impression that Mrs. Guthrie was missed at Sunday school first.

If her friends had expected her then and she still hadn’t arrived in time for the regular service I can see them becoming concerned enough to go ahead and call to check on her at that time.


All imo

I was under the impression she attended virtually via Zoom or similar. Do we know?

 

[rosesfromangels]

I think she was carried out of home because there were droplets, not trail of blood or footprints.

I think you are right

 

[waldojabba]

I wonder what happened to ABanfield and her commentary on this case ?
I looked for updates to her last statement
that she made on youtube with Megyn Kelly and found nothing.

AB's last statement was on Thursday Feb 5th.

Wouldn't you think she would be having updates... there was a new family video etc and much to report on.

I also looked to see what Megyn Kelly was saying in her updates. This morning In her NG update on youtube - there is no mention of suspects - in particular there is no mention of the SIL

They are both independent journalists/ but MSM credentials ...so were they pressured to stop talking about SIL and by whom? Or did they find out that he is no longer the "prime" suspect? Did the Guthrie family file a cease and desist (sp?) order- see link below ?

Or... have I just missed the fact that they still are talking about him being the "Prime" suspect.



JMO

excerpt from article written fri feb 6th link below

Reporter doubles down on 'reckless' claim that Savannah Guthrie’s brother-in-law 'may be prime suspect'

Ashleigh Banfield is standing by her claim — even after the local Arizona sheriff on the case said there are zero suspects, calling the reporting “reckless.”

nypost.com

Ashleigh Banfield is standing by her claim that Savannah Guthrie’s brother-in-law “may be the prime suspect” in the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie — even after the local Arizona sheriff on the case said there are zero suspects, calling the reporting “reckless.”

Banfield told the Status newsletter on Thursday that she is sticking to her reporting, which cited just one unnamed law enforcement source and aired on her podcast, despite repeated public denials from Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos.

“We don’t have anybody here listed as a suspect,” Nanos said at a press conference Thursday, stressing that investigators also have no persons of interest.

megyn kelly am update from today - NG info is from approx 2:00-7:12

guthrie family explores suing AB
Savannah Guthrie's Family 'Exploring Taking Legal Action' Against TV Host Ashleigh Banfield for Claiming Missing Nancy's Son-in-Law is a 'Prime Suspect' in Case"

"Other reporters are said to be perturbed by what Banfield's putting out, with one telling Status: "We all understand that 'influencers' engage in wild speculation and rage bait to chase clicks. But at a certain point building audiences on the back of a missing 84-year-old woman who is the mom of a former colleague is not only disgusting, it’s literally hurting the family and the investigation."

At the risk of an off topic post, cartel blame was bandied about in the Rhoden murders in Ohio as well

Honestly if you look online- Tuscon and Phoenix are huge drug routes for the Sinoela/ cartels along with trafficking of guns etc. They use stash house and do have a pretty good presence
Google search below shows many sources for info on that.
I think the cartels tenacles are far reaching in this country. They just don't advertize lol

Google Search

 

[Fargo]

I have been wondering if the videos from the family, spread out like they are in time, is a delay tactic to keep the kidnapper occupied while they do the needed legwork on the messages.

Something else that is bothering me...

The language is off, "We understand..." why would you need to say that? Both SG videos use that language. According to people who have seen the letters they are very well written and organized, why would you need to confirm understanding but not mention what it is you understand?

That whole message is off.

"We received your message and we understand," Guthrie said in the brief video posted to Instagram. "We beg you now to return our mother to us so we can celebrate with her. This is the only way we will have peace. This is very valuable to us, and we will pay."

Why send a message that you're going to pay instead of just paying? Why refer to your mother as "this"? This is very valuable to us. What is "this"? It's distancing language, which is a little bizarre.

Savannah Guthrie in new video pleads for mother's return: 'We will pay'

"Today" show host Savannah Guthrie and her siblings released a new video saying they have received a message and begged for their mother's return.

abcnews.go.com

 

[birdbox]

Due to the disruption of cartels normal business (drugs) into the United States, might they be exploring new revenue streams IMHO.

You could be on to something something. Google how much North Korea makes from stealing crypto from US. They use sophisticated hacking, but a Latin American company would not have the infrastructure to hack to steal crypto, but they could start kidnapping soft targets. So, you have a plausible theory for sure.

 

[maskedwoman]

Do you have a source for vpn providers being required to keep US user logs? I did a google search and found nothing

Many VPNs today actually advertise that they keep no logs. I have researched for issues related to the fact that most streamers want static IP addresses and almost none of the internet providers available to me offer it. I had to google what the logs were. LOL

Best VPNs for the USA - February 2026 - cybernews.com

Cybernews is your source for breaking cybersecurity news and independent research, latest tech analysis and product reviews

us.cybernews.com

ETA list of VPNs who advertise no longs policy.

 

[Sadi]

this is what is holding me back from getting on the SIL train.

i don't think it would require a full-scale investigation from the FBI to figure out that this was a crime of passion staged to look like a kidnapping or, if we want to lean towards the crazier theory, that the SIL is involved with the ransom note somehow. similarly, i have a hard time believing that they wouldn't have figured out by now that the ransom note is not related and it's a separate crime they need to investigate after the more immediate crisis of a missing 84 year old.

but, maybe they are actually investigating this as a family murder and focusing less on the ransom note now and we just don't know about it yet.

What would be the reason for the FBI/LE to be at AG”s home two to three times removing items and taking pictures inside the house if they’re not involved?