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What if LE didn't put the contact from the church friend on the timeline because that contact and the family beginning to look for Nancy is the exact same time????

Not at Arizona time. Someone can tell us what that is, my time zone thinking is sketchy. I just know it is 5:49 pm on the EAST COAST. Other areas of the country change by a certain amount of hours.
It’s 3:52 in AZ right as I type this
 
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Not at Arizona time. Someone can tell us what that is, my time zone thinking is sketchy. I just know it is 5:49 pm on the EAST COAST. Other areas of the country change by a certain amount of hours.
It’s currently 3:54 in Tucson - Mountain Standard Time.

They’re 2 hours behind us here in Eastern Time.
 
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I’ve never believed that any of the family is involved, and I’m angry of the posts that slandered people are written. Honestly, this is not a game of clue but of real life gut wrenching reality. Websluthers would bounce ideas of how to help solve, instead of this social media free for all of opinions and bashing.
Primarily, I think most who post here are deeply feeling and thinking people, connecting with others who are similar. I have seen very few posts outright slandering SIL or AG, but rather questioning certain things in relation to them. It’s the nature of the beast when an investigation is occurring and no suspect has been named yet. All in all, I think the majority of us mean well:)
 
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If there was anything to actually point to a suspect or evidence LE would get a search warrant regardless to head off any Defense calm later on.
Oh ok interesting! Did not know that
 
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Sorry, wrong link
“Guthrie was reported missing after a church-goer called the family to say she hadn’t shown up for services that morning, and worried relatives called the cops. Family members had dropped her off at her home just after 9:30 the night before.”

Another link stating call made since source of above link is not an approved source. I would reference the CNN link, however I don’t have a subscription to open the article on CNN.


If anyone can provide me with link of approved/not approved sites to reference, I would appreciate it. I cannot find it on this site and am probably looking in the wrong place. TIA
 
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Not at Arizona time. Someone can tell us what that is, my time zone thinking is sketchy. I just know it is 5:49 pm on the EAST COAST. Other areas of the country change by a certain amount of hours.
Current time/weather etc in AZ
 
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Is he suggesting she wandered off? If she wasn't taken alive, she was still taken but I agree kidnapping may have been an afterthought.
Lol, I hope not. But his later arguments there also applied to someone entering and killing her (footprints, DNA, etc).
 
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I'm wondering how this squares with their last message of "we will pay" ? Like, did they ?
That's what I'm thinking? And maybe there has been no communication, so SG is calling on all the arm chair sleuthers that LE hates so much.
 
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If there was anything to actually point to a suspect or evidence LE would get a search warrant regardless to head off any Defense calm later on.
100%
 
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Is he suggesting she wandered off? If she wasn't taken alive, she was still taken but I agree kidnapping may have been an afterthought.
It's likely the same as all the other cases when a person vanishes from the home overnight, adult or child. We've seen it a hundred times already.

My opinion only.
 
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I think the most perplexing part of this case is that the "kidnappers" have not provided proof of life. Isn't that ransom 101. Even if she isn't alive anymore you would think they would have pre-recorded one if they really wanted their money. I think the family would have paid the ransom long ago if proof of life had been provided.
 
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Have seen another interesting theory. SG is strategically "made up" in this latest video to look business-ready; that she is about to pay. And the "appeal" is because the perp has confirmed NG would be "dropped off" somewhere. So she is asking people to keep their eyes peeled.
 
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In a "normal" abduction and ransom, would the perps treat the victim well? For example, could we imagine they would be cooking for NG, maybe letting her read books, play some cards, maybe scrolling TikTok? In the best-case scenario she is still with us?

Depending on who it is.

If these are, as some say, "cartels" or Islamic criminals, or any nuclear society, they do have some respect towards elderly.

If this is someone local who ran out of money spent on meth, no.

JMO.
 
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Yes I agree. It just "feels" off as it seems like she is getting ahead of LE who have been completely quiet?
That's the sense I get too. She and LE have separated a bit? She is taking matters into her own hands and asking for help from the public?
Is this what feels off to you?
 
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Thank you for reminding us all of the desperate nature of this situation. I try to put myself in SG's shoes and it's so painful I have to stop that exercise. I'd literally have to be medicated to get through that. For those who believe in the power of prayer, now is a good time to surround SG with it. I'm afraid her beloved Mom crossed over that first night. How I hope I'm wrong.

Thank you Donswife. We need to be more like those walking Monks spreading peace, praying over people, and handing out flowers...and less like a warped reality show.

Amateur opinion and speculation only
Just curious, you didn’t mention Nancy’s other two children?
 
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Is he suggesting she wandered off? If she wasn't taken alive, she was still taken but I agree kidnapping may have been an afterthought.
I believe he would be leaning towards foul play over wandering off.
 
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