Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[HoveringWombats]

JMO, the previous video from SG and family pretty directly addressed the perps. If she wanted to address them again in this one, I think she would have been similarly direct, if not more so. I have a hard time reading anything she said in the most recent video as a message to them.

 

[nightowl2728]

Maybe there's infighting amongst a group of perps who had different motives and roles - and that's why the "responses" have been frayed and confusing

 

[ms-t]

Have we passed the 5PM deadline?

I think it is MST, which is about 1 hour 10 mins away.

 

[Bodhi]

Alas, it seems the "ransomers" wanted this public disclosure and pain.

As one detective said "they sent the ransom note first to freakin' TMZ". They wanted this to play out in the public, still could be an opportunistic sicko/stalker and unrelated to the real disappearance of NG

They didn't send it to TMZ first, though. 2 local stations received identical messages, contacted the sheriff's office, and did not reveal anything publicly. A day or so later (source linked earlier today by another person), TMZ received the same message and published it before contacting law enforcement.

Regardless, it's possible the method was chosen because the one-way submission form on the news sites limited LE's ability to trace it back to the sender. Publicizing their bitcoin wallet information is not in their interest, after all. They method they chose to communicate has been effective. Professional journalists would not be party to criminal extortion. They'd contact law enforcement first and not publish criminal threats. TMZ or tabloids are not journalists and I don't hold them to professional standards. I'm realistic.

My outrage over TMZ's action today is not about revealing the message, however. It is that they publicly reported in real time whether a transaction was occurring in the final hours before the final deadline. If they reported on it later, fine. Publication in real time inserted the outlet into a crime that was underway while a victim or the return of her body was hanging in the balance. As I've made clear, this is how I see it. It's my opinion. Others may not find TMZ's action today so reckless.

 

[crhedBngr]

Current time in Tucson.

Current Local Time in Tucson, Arizona, USA

 

[mikeshanty]

In a "normal" abduction and ransom, would the perps treat the victim well? For example, could we imagine they would be cooking for NG, maybe letting her read books, play some cards, maybe scrolling TikTok? In the best-case scenario she is still with us?

 

[submarine7]

Good points made here about this whole kidnapping thing, being suspicious.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020974135602561024

Is he suggesting she wandered off? If she wasn't taken alive, she was still taken but I agree kidnapping may have been an afterthought.

 

[stmichael]

What’s the likelihood more ransom demands are coming? This could happen to anyone famous and wealthy, and it probably happens all the time, but not reported on? This could be nightmare for LE if it starts others to think the same (and act on it (copycat )?

It's always likely. I many high profile cases it happens and you need to weed it out. One historically famous nationally covered kidnapping story was the Charles Lindbergh baby kidnapping in 1932. It captivated the country at the time. There were 5 fake ransom notes determined in that case.

Today with AI deepfakes fake proof of life ransoms for faked kidnapping using people's altered social media are such a thing that the FBI even released a PSA about it in Dec. 2025.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I’ve never believed that any of the family is involved, and I’m angry of the posts that slandered people are written. Honestly, this is not a game of clue but of real life gut wrenching reality. Websluthers would bounce ideas of how to help solve, instead of this social media free for all of opinions and bashing.

Thank you for reminding us all of the desperate nature of this situation. I try to put myself in SG's shoes and it's so painful I have to stop that exercise. I'd literally have to be medicated to get through that. For those who believe in the power of prayer, now is a good time to surround SG with it. I'm afraid her beloved Mom crossed over that first night. How I hope I'm wrong.

Thank you Donswife. We need to be more like those walking Monks spreading peace, praying over people, and handing out flowers...and less like a warped reality show.

Amateur opinion and speculation only

 

[Chimera]

They'd also probably be unable to work if they're holding her, so they would have to have a means to sustain themselves. They would have gone "all in" on getting $$ from the abduction because their livelihood is gone/diminished. Even losing one client (NG) would be a substantial loss in income, no matter how slight that income. In neighborhoods like this, I bet 90-100% of households have people helping with their households, and the neighborhood would typically be filled with workers throughout the day. I know mine is.

I guess my point - the local hired help would be losing everything -- and not even demand a ransom for multiple days?

Makes sense. ^^^

Still leaning largely towards someone known to Nancy.
Who wanted her just ... gone ?
Omo.

 

[shadowsc]

Today Brian Entin on Megyn Kelly. The Sheriff's office sounds inexperienced:
MK: Here's what I want to know. Um I want to know whether anybody's been asked to give and or has given a polygraph. Not a peep about that. Is that correct? No one's saying a word.

BE: Not a word. I interviewed yesterday uh a former homicide detective for Pima County uh who was there for 20 years and is now retired. And it's interesting what you were reporting in the beginning of your show. I mean, he says the same exact thing that the there's been so much turnover there that it's a mess at the sheriff's office. Uh and that most of the homicide detectives have like two years experience. And so he's concerned a lot of the veterans like him have left just because they've been upset with the with the department for different reasons. and there was a different sheriff and then another sheriff came back and it's it's been a mess there. Uh but he was telling me that in his 20 years there he never they never once administered a polygraph. That wasn't something that they did as a sheriff's office ever, not even once. But I, yeah, I know.

About the 4:10 mark:

 

[keek]

Have we passed the 5PM deadline?

Not at Arizona time. Someone can tell us what that is, my time zone thinking is sketchy. I just know it is 5:49 pm on the EAST COAST. Other areas of the country change by a certain amount of hours.

 

[mikeshanty]

Is he suggesting she wandered off? If she wasn't taken alive, she was still taken but I agree kidnapping may have been an afterthought.

I think he's implying a lot - that she was not "taken" but that something was "done" to her.

 

[stmichael]

In a "normal" abduction and ransom, would the perps treat the victim well? For example, could we imagine they would be cooking for NG, maybe letting her read books, play some cards, maybe scrolling TikTok? In the best-case scenario she is still with us?

Highly depends on who you are dealing with.

They certainly didn't in the "Pain & Gain" Daniel Lugo extortion and kidnapping case in the 90s. And that is the classic case of drugged up amateur knuckleheads doing an atrocious blundering kidnapping.

 

[Donswife48]

Yes, her response would have to be immediate, but yeah, they could still kill her. But at least you could deposit money knowing she was alive when you asked 12 hours ago.

Would you really give millions to an account without means to communicate? What happens when they collect the funds without further communication?

 

[Bodhi]

I wanted to say, SIL's house. 4 miles away, as i have read.

Yes, NG's instant neighbor was super smart to notice the clean roof.

Thank you. I misunderstood the reference and thought I missed something.

 

[raja]

The camera or light removed from the pool house roof happened after the second email. I wonder if they were told it would be disconnected? It brought my thoughts back to the beginning where someone found a permit for electrical work at NG’s house from early January I think. I don’t have a link so maybe I am incorrect about this. Does anyone else remember this? Anyway if this is the case and someone disconnected it while working there maybe there will be finger prints. Just a thought.

 

[BenjaminJAndersonAlly]

Have we passed the 5PM deadline?

No - it is 3:51 here in AZ

 

[mikeshanty]

Would you really give millions to an account without means to communicate? What happens when they collect the funds without further communication?

As awful as this sounds, SG also has her professional credibility at stake.

 

[kalekona]

Maybe SIL and AG knew a warrant would look bad - both optically and the probable cause disclosed to a judge - and chose to go the "consent" route because they knew it would happen regardless ?

If there was anything to actually point to a suspect or evidence LE would get a search warrant regardless to head off any Defense calm later on.