AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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What still is of concern is that the early report about the initial ransom demand was addressed to Annie and T instead of Savannah.
I have not seen any reliable sources report this. All I have seen is people confused by the hoax ransom text sent by the individual who was already arrested, who did send only to AG and TC. I think that's plausibly explained by their phone numbers being much easier to get than SG's, but since this is pretty clearly not related to the other aspects of the case, it's not really relevant anyway.

Curious if there is another source that I'm not aware of.

Just my opinions here.
 
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Interesting another camera was found and removed (from guest house facing her driveway). It was missed on the other 6 or so searches?

When I drove by on the Monday after the alert went out, there was a white car beside the guesthouse and nothing else there. No police, no sheriff, no security... It was strange really. She is part of our CFHA (Catalina Foothills Homeowner's Association) and also in our Nextdoor area and she posted in November 2025 asking for camera recommendations.

It's surreal I have been here for 5+ years and suddenly, less than a mile from my home we are talking about this bizarre case. Like many of you have repeated over the hundreds of pages, it seems odd and burdensome to kidnap an 84 y/o with mobility issues.

Michael Ruiz has done some very strong investigative journalism and unearthed a Special Durable POA from last year as well as, a camera that was on the guest house on February 6th, yet as of yesterday is gone. How does this happen with all of the media camped out in front of the house?

Micael Ruiz from Fox News posted this on X. For some reason the link will not work when I embed it in the text.

If this has been posted, I did not see it in the media timeline.
ETA for clean up
From what I understand the Special Durable POA from last year has to do with the purchase of their home, one couldn't be there to sign . I've had to do one many years ago, same situation. I think it's only good for a VERY short time,
 
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Folks, it's Tucson not Tuscon!
Lol, in the Tucson subreddit on Reddit, there's this bot that jumps in every time someone spells it wrong (Tuscon, etc.) to correct them. It's relentless.
 
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What does this mean? Only Fox News can be used as a source for this case or Fox News cannot be used as a source for any case except this one?
It means exactly what she said (6 times).

FOX NEWS WILL BE ALLOWED AS A SOURCE FOR THIS CASE ONLY.

Here is post 1 of 6: AZ - Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

And scratch the word "only" in your post. She's allowing it, in addition to other approved sources. It's not the only allowed source.
 
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They interviewed her and it seems she was. I know it was in a MSM article posted way, way back on this thread.
Modnote: If anyone can find this for me, we can put it over on the Media Thread. Seems like it would be good to have handy.
Never Mind, I picked it up from a later post and moved it over there.
 
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Lol, in the Tucson subreddit on Reddit, there's this bot that jumps in every time someone spells it wrong (Tuscon, etc.) to correct them. It's relentless.
When I was a part of that sub, I saw the same thing. I’ve long since stopped going there because it is one toxic cesspool in my opinion, with only a few decent people posting every so often
I would say us with the spelling is very similar to how those from Oregon insist on how Oregon should be pronounced
 
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OR ask for consent and at the same time explain why they’d also like a warrant. I’m really confused about the warrant issue. My take is the warrant is a good thing in terms of a future trial. Any findings with only a consent could be argued against, while a warrant is solid? In this situation would LE prefer a sealed or unsealed warrant? Help me here. Do we even know if a warrant has happened here?
They have to have probable cause to get a warrant. They don’t need PC with consent. If they have no evidence a third party residence is involved in the kidnapping, the only way they can get in is with consent.

Sealed vs unsealed doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things. Sealing the warrant just avoids premature disclosure of investigative findings and potentially strategy. It keeps from tipping off a potential subject so that they can destroy evidence, etc. If someone gets arrested, the warrant affidavit is available to them via discovery. Otherwise, only a copy of the order itself is provided. Technically the warrant itself is unsealed after execution (because you have to leave a copy of the order), but the affidavit still remains sealed.

You also don’t have an unlimited amount of time to pocket a warrant. Usually 10 days to execute from the time it’s signed by the judge.

JMO
 
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Several posters have asked on this thread recently if LE would need both AG and TC to give voluntary consent to a search of their home and property. I assume that LE would need the consent of all legal and official homeowners. Do we know if both AG and TC are listed on auditor's website as both being official homeowners?
 
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Can someone tell me WHICH Circle K provided the surveillance video? MSM consistently reports it is one on Oracle Road. As a 40+ year Tucson resident I struggled to remember one on Oracle. A quick google maps check did not find one either. There are a few close to Oracle though.

5801 N Oracle Road. (iirc) Close to AG’s house.

I’ll try to find the link.
 
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Let’s see if he has her back on, bet that’s a hard no, lol.
Weren't BE and AB coworkers at NewsNation? I thought I remembered them reporting together during the Idaho 4 case.
 
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Interesting another camera was found and removed (from guest house facing her driveway). It was missed on the other 6 or so searches?

When I drove by on the Monday after the alert went out, there was a white car beside the guesthouse and nothing else there. No police, no sheriff, no security... It was strange really. She is part of our CFHA (Catalina Foothills Homeowner's Association) and also in our Nextdoor area and she posted in November 2025 asking for camera recommendations.

It's surreal I have been here for 5+ years and suddenly, less than a mile from my home we are talking about this bizarre case. Like many of you have repeated over the hundreds of pages, it seems odd and burdensome to kidnap an 84 y/o with mobility issues.

Michael Ruiz has done some very strong investigative journalism and unearthed a Special Durable POA from last year as well as, a camera that was on the guest house on February 6th, yet as of yesterday is gone. How does this happen with all of the media camped out in front of the house?

Micael Ruiz from Fox News posted this on X. For some reason the link will not work when I embed it in the text.

If this has been posted, I did not see it in the media timeline.
ETA for clean up
Can you say if Law enforcement has been door to door?
I'm not sure if this is a time you would be a verified insider due to your location etc...and I may have missed your other posts due to my twitching eye from trying to keep up lol.
Jmo, and continuing to pray for Nancy and your community. I may joke sometimes on here but I'm fully aware of the heartbreaking seriousness of this case.
 
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They have to have probable cause to get a warrant. They don’t need PC with consent. If they have no evidence a third party residence is involved in the kidnapping, the only way they can get in is with consent.

Sealed vs unsealed doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things. Sealing the warrant just avoids premature disclosure of investigative findings and potentially strategy. It keeps from tipping off a potential subject so that they can destroy evidence, etc. If someone gets arrested, the warrant affidavit is available to them via discovery. Otherwise, only a copy of the order itself is provided. Technically the warrant itself is unsealed after execution (because you have to leave a copy of the order), but the affidavit still remains sealed.

You also don’t have an unlimited amount of time to pocket a warrant. Usually 10 days to execute from the time it’s signed by the judge.

JMO
Thank you very much! I just googled the 3 differences and was gonna post, but your description is exactly what I found. Good information!
 
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Evidence is admissible if the resident consents to the search.
If it did go to trial evidence from a consented search would be admissible but any defense attorney worth their salt would object and say "they agreed to this not that. If they have PC, they'll get a warrant. IMO
 
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Several posters have asked on this thread recently if LE would need both AG and TC to give voluntary consent to a search of their home and property. I assume that LE would need the consent of all legal and official homeowners. Do we know if both AG and TC are listed on auditor's website as both being official homeowners?
If it was all communal, they only need one person’s consent. If they were separated, for instance, and sleeping in different bedrooms that the other did not really access, that would change things. But shared property in a traditional arrangement where each has access to everything equally, they only need whichever is present at the property to consent.

JMO
 
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Can you say if Law enforcement has been door to door?
I'm not sure if this is a time you would be a verified insider due to your location etc...and I may have missed your other posts due to my twitching eye from trying to keep up lol.
Jmo, and continuing to pray for Nancy and your community. I may joke sometimes on here but I'm fully aware of the heartbreaking seriousness of this case.
I can ask Tricia to work on verified insider if you all want that. Her home is almost a mile from me as the crow flies. Law enforcement, including FBI have gone door to door several times. I saw them out canvassing with clipboards ringing doorbells. They have not come to mine.
 
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See below this may explain why AB in her latest podcast does not update us on her sources info about the son in law. JMO


Latest podcast AB
GOOD. This "gotcha" type of reporting when lives and reputations are at stake must stop!
 

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