That's been out for a while. I think media stirringWell there it is, now we know.
That's been out for a while. I think media stirringWell there it is, now we know.
They interviewed her and it seems she was. I know it was in a MSM article posted way, way back on this thread.
When I was a part of that sub, I saw the same thing. I’ve long since stopped going there because it is one toxic cesspool in my opinion, with only a few decent people posting every so oftenLol, in the Tucson subreddit on Reddit, there's this bot that jumps in every time someone spells it wrong (Tuscon, etc.) to correct them. It's relentless.
They have to have probable cause to get a warrant. They don’t need PC with consent. If they have no evidence a third party residence is involved in the kidnapping, the only way they can get in is with consent.OR ask for consent and at the same time explain why they’d also like a warrant. I’m really confused about the warrant issue. My take is the warrant is a good thing in terms of a future trial. Any findings with only a consent could be argued against, while a warrant is solid? In this situation would LE prefer a sealed or unsealed warrant? Help me here. Do we even know if a warrant has happened here?
I don't think he will !Let’s see if he has her back on, bet that’s a hard no, lol.
Several posters have asked on this thread recently if LE would need both AG and TC to give voluntary consent to a search of their home and property. I assume that LE would need the consent of all legal and official homeowners. Do we know if both AG and TC are listed on auditor's website as both being official homeowners?
Can someone tell me WHICH Circle K provided the surveillance video? MSM consistently reports it is one on Oracle Road. As a 40+ year Tucson resident I struggled to remember one on Oracle. A quick google maps check did not find one either. There are a few close to Oracle though.
Weren't BE and AB coworkers at NewsNation? I thought I remembered them reporting together during the Idaho 4 case.Let’s see if he has her back on, bet that’s a hard no, lol.
Can you say if Law enforcement has been door to door?Interesting another camera was found and removed (from guest house facing her driveway). It was missed on the other 6 or so searches?
When I drove by on the Monday after the alert went out, there was a white car beside the guesthouse and nothing else there. No police, no sheriff, no security... It was strange really. She is part of our CFHA (Catalina Foothills Homeowner's Association) and also in our Nextdoor area and she posted in November 2025 asking for camera recommendations.
It's surreal I have been here for 5+ years and suddenly, less than a mile from my home we are talking about this bizarre case. Like many of you have repeated over the hundreds of pages, it seems odd and burdensome to kidnap an 84 y/o with mobility issues.
Michael Ruiz has done some very strong investigative journalism and unearthed a Special Durable POA from last year as well as, a camera that was on the guest house on February 6th, yet as of yesterday is gone. How does this happen with all of the media camped out in front of the house?
Micael Ruiz from Fox News posted this on X. For some reason the link will not work when I embed it in the text.
If this has been posted, I did not see it in the media timeline.
ETA for clean up
Thank you very much! I just googled the 3 differences and was gonna post, but your description is exactly what I found. Good information!They have to have probable cause to get a warrant. They don’t need PC with consent. If they have no evidence a third party residence is involved in the kidnapping, the only way they can get in is with consent.
Sealed vs unsealed doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things. Sealing the warrant just avoids premature disclosure of investigative findings and potentially strategy. It keeps from tipping off a potential subject so that they can destroy evidence, etc. If someone gets arrested, the warrant affidavit is available to them via discovery. Otherwise, only a copy of the order itself is provided. Technically the warrant itself is unsealed after execution (because you have to leave a copy of the order), but the affidavit still remains sealed.
You also don’t have an unlimited amount of time to pocket a warrant. Usually 10 days to execute from the time it’s signed by the judge.
JMO
If it did go to trial evidence from a consented search would be admissible but any defense attorney worth their salt would object and say "they agreed to this not that. If they have PC, they'll get a warrant. IMOEvidence is admissible if the resident consents to the search.
If it was all communal, they only need one person’s consent. If they were separated, for instance, and sleeping in different bedrooms that the other did not really access, that would change things. But shared property in a traditional arrangement where each has access to everything equally, they only need whichever is present at the property to consent.Several posters have asked on this thread recently if LE would need both AG and TC to give voluntary consent to a search of their home and property. I assume that LE would need the consent of all legal and official homeowners. Do we know if both AG and TC are listed on auditor's website as both being official homeowners?
I can ask Tricia to work on verified insider if you all want that. Her home is almost a mile from me as the crow flies. Law enforcement, including FBI have gone door to door several times. I saw them out canvassing with clipboards ringing doorbells. They have not come to mine.Can you say if Law enforcement has been door to door?
I'm not sure if this is a time you would be a verified insider due to your location etc...and I may have missed your other posts due to my twitching eye from trying to keep up lol.
Jmo, and continuing to pray for Nancy and your community. I may joke sometimes on here but I'm fully aware of the heartbreaking seriousness of this case.
GOOD. This "gotcha" type of reporting when lives and reputations are at stake must stop!See below this may explain why AB in her latest podcast does not update us on her sources info about the son in law. JMO
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Savannah Guthrie's Family 'Exploring Taking Legal Action' Against TV Host Ashleigh Banfield for Claiming Missing Nancy's Son-in-Law is a 'Prime Suspect' in Case
Savannah Guthrie's family is exploring litigation over claims Nancy Guthrie's son-in-law is a suspect in her abduction.radaronline.com
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Their client would have to explain why they signed a consent to search form that details exactly what can be searched, and was witnessed by multiple individuals.If it did go to trial evidence from a consented search would be admissible but any defense attorney worth their salt would object and say "they agreed to this not that. If they have PC, they'll get a warrant. IMO
I don’t understand why the FBI is involved. They think this is an interstate or national level case because it is the mother of a TV host? It seems like if this is going to drag on for months, they have to justify why federal taxpayers have to pay for this long investigation when so many benefits have been cut for the common man. They should probably trust local LE to take it from here. MOO
Personally I think it would be interesting to know more about the local thoughts and dynamic in this case. I've often thought about what locals have to say about this case. I trust Tricia's judgment about what can and can't be said here.I can ask Tricia to work on verified insider if you all want that. Her home is almost a mile from me as the crow flies. Law enforcement, including FBI have gone door to door several times. I saw them out canvassing with clipboards ringing doorbells. They have not come to mine.
Interesting difference. The details certainly sound legitimate, even though it's based on a single anonymous source. Sounds like a lovely, companionable way to attend church. I find it comforting to know that Nancy was not isolated. Dinner and games with family, regular get-togethers with friends.Since FOX is allowed
Nancy was expected at a friend's house.....not church
On Feb. 1, Nancy did not arrive at her friend’s house as expected to watch the livestream. Concerned, the friend contacted Annie — Nancy’s daughter and Savannah Guthrie’s sister — to report that Nancy had not shown up and could not be reached.
The source emphasized that Nancy was expected to be at her friend’s home that morning, not at a Tucson church, and said the circumstances surrounding her absence have been inaccurately described in some coverage.
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Nancy Guthrie latest: Sheriff says search expanded and announces follow up on 'new leads'
The FBI has said that alleged ransom notes have set a final deadline for Nancy Guthrie, the missing mother of NBC “Today” co-host Savannah Guthrie, for 5 p.m. local time Monday.www.foxnews.com