AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SMK777]

FBI says no suspects, no communication as Nancy Guthrie ransom deadline passes with no proof of life

FBI says no suspects, no communication as Nancy Guthrie ransom deadline passes with no proof of life

Sources told The Times the ransom note felt credible because it included details about a specific damaged piece of property and the placement of an accessory in the home. The Times has not reviewed the note, but sources with knowledge of the investigation said it sought $6 million.

www.latimes.com

 

[m00c0w]

If it did go to trial evidence from a consented search would be admissible but any defense attorney worth their salt would object and say "they agreed to this not that. If they have PC, they'll get a warrant. IMO

Their client would have to explain why they signed a consent to search form that details exactly what can be searched, and was witnessed by multiple individuals.

Pure verbal consent stopped being a thing quite a while ago, unless there’s some sort of weird exigency. Even then, they’d likely record the verbal consent.

JMO

 

[apeXperience]

I don’t understand why the FBI is involved. They think this is an interstate or national level case because it is the mother of a TV host? It seems like if this is going to drag on for months, they have to justify why federal taxpayers have to pay for this long investigation when so many benefits have been cut for the common man. They should probably trust local LE to take it from here. MOO

The involvement of the FBI is desirable and expected in cases such as this.
When technology from car data, heart monitor and pacemaker, wifi, multiple cameras from varied sources such as gas station, phone triangulation etc. is involved, it is beneficial to gain help from the resourceful FBI.
In this case, DNA is also involved because blood were present and you want to know if it is the victim's blood or the blood of the violent criminal(s).
In cases similar to this one, the resources from the FBI Lab at the Marine Corps Base Quantico in Quantico, Virginia is desirable because they have technology and 500 plus scientists specialized with forensic.
Early in the investigation, a ransom demand through bitcoins needed nation wide expertise because it is equivalent to interstate banking!
As a result of investigators expertise, the criminal was caught in California, which validates to use of the FBI's resources in such an interstate banking investigation.
Someone with a business making just $10 million per year would pay $3,800,000 in tax using the tax rate of 38% of the 2020-2024 period.
Does someone paying $3,800,000 tax per year deserve the help of federal agencies, when the common man making $100,000 per year and paying much much less tax would benefit in time of need?
Usually, local law enforcement dislikes the involvement of the FBI when they are politicized and/or there are the reputation of local elected officials or affluent local people to be managed.
In this case, it is very good for the investigation that FBI is involved, albeit belatedly somewhat.

 

[auburnmomof2]

I can ask Tricia to work on verified insider if you all want that. Her home is almost a mile from me as the crow flies. Law enforcement, including FBI have gone door to door several times. I saw them out canvassing with clipboards ringing doorbells. They have not come to mine.

Personally I think it would be interesting to know more about the local thoughts and dynamic in this case. I've often thought about what locals have to say about this case. I trust Tricia's judgment about what can and can't be said here.
Jmo

 

[Kemug]

So IF the motive was to inherit from Nancy, AND no genuine ransom note has been received, THEN perhaps the guilty party is not overbright, and assumed that Nancy's body (sorry) wouldn't take too long to find. Just an idea.

 

[Bodhi]

Since FOX is allowed
Nancy was expected at a friend's house.....not church

On Feb. 1, Nancy did not arrive at her friend’s house as expected to watch the livestream. Concerned, the friend contacted Annie — Nancy’s daughter and Savannah Guthrie’s sister — to report that Nancy had not shown up and could not be reached.

The source emphasized that Nancy was expected to be at her friend’s home that morning, not at a Tucson church, and said the circumstances surrounding her absence have been inaccurately described in some coverage.

Nancy Guthrie latest: Sheriff says search expanded and announces follow up on 'new leads'

The FBI has said that alleged ransom notes have set a final deadline for Nancy Guthrie, the missing mother of NBC “Today” co-host Savannah Guthrie, for 5 p.m. local time Monday.

www.foxnews.com

Interesting difference. The details certainly sound legitimate, even though it's based on a single anonymous source. Sounds like a lovely, companionable way to attend church. I find it comforting to know that Nancy was not isolated. Dinner and games with family, regular get-togethers with friends.

Ultimately, I haven't see how Nancy attended church as significant. Whether she sat in a pew, watched solo from home, or at a friend's house isn't important. The relevance is only that Nancy's absence from a routine Sunday morning activity prompted someone to call her daughter, which prompted a family member to check on her. The time of the call, the identity of the caller, and reason for concern were easily verified. It all confirmed the family member's account of why they went to the house late Sunday morning and reported her missing within minutes. My takeaway about the call from the first press conference was that it all checked out.

Thanks for sharing the article. I appreciate the image of Nancy and friends gathering for worship and enjoying each other's company every Sunday morning. It helps.

 

[FoxxTraxx]

Someone posted this earlier, haven't seen any chatter on it. Posting again
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Nancy Guthrie was expected at friend’s home, not church on day she vanished​

Nancy Guthrie was expected at friend’s home, not church on day she vanished: source

Family source corrects timeline reports about Nancy Guthrie's disappearance. Missing woman wasn't scheduled for Tucson church but weekly livestream.

www.foxnews.com

I found this information to be very helpful. I always like to know the exact details of when someone first notices a person is ''missing''. It's the moment someone realizes that something is wrong, and nothing is the same from that moment forward.

In this case, the exact details seemed to be an afterthought for some reason. If the 'church ladies' had not noticed NG was missing on Sunday morning, the whole day may have passed before someone else sounded the alarm.

 

[TKG]

Their client would have to explain why they signed a consent to search form that details exactly what can be searched, and was witnessed by multiple individuals.

Pure verbal consent stopped being a thing quite a while ago, unless there’s some sort of weird exigency. Even then, they’d likely record the verbal consent.

JMO

Thank you, that is helpful. Appreciate you and your insight.

 

[Ghostwheel]

There should be a media thread for this case?

Modnote: The link for the Media thread is in RED on page one of this thread, first post. So you can always find it.

 

[birdbox]

Yes.
See here:
Nancy Guthrie Case

Has anyone been cleared in Nancy's case?

Did some digging.

The Uber driver that dropped Nancy at her daughter Annie and son-in-law Tommaso Cioni's home the night before she went missing was cleared of suspicion according to the sheriff on Thursday, 2/5/26. Show more

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020853296332710293

Good to see some have been cleared of suspicion.

 

[Arkay]

I deeply suspect that the olde pirate/ outlaw/ biker saying of : “Three can keep a secret- if two are dead” counts double for teenagers ala: Aw shucks boss man, I only told my ex girlfriend and my best buddy on the football team.

Lol that quote is from Benjamin Franklin in Poor Richard’s Almanac.

I guess it’s been co-opted by criminals.

Still remains true, IMO.

 

[Redraft33]

MOO but SG has a secret or not so secret anymore, admirer. Something changed today. She didnt seem as distraught. She was trying to take back some control and she clearly didnt signal or say anything that indicated they were paying any ransom. This is going to be a crazy "fan" who didnt want her to go to the Olympics and found a way to keep her here. Something along those lines and IMO, LE is finally investigating that. I am very sad that her family has been totally eviscerated as being the perps, in debt, lying about the person from the church, being accused of being neglectful for letting her take an Uber , yet SG somehow has become THE ONLY SYMPATHETIC FIGURE. IMO, HER TALENT AND FAME, ARE WHAT DREW THE ABDUCTER'S TO HER MOTHER'S DOORSTEP. I know this post won't be popular. However, it's honest. SG became untouchable while her family was maligned. If not a secret admirer, then a contractor or someone who knew she was NG's daughter and there was means for a large ransom. I am surprised the ransom wasn't paid. IMO, that was a foolish move. jmo

Also, add to this, ( Hi folks, long time lurker, first time poster.) If this was a targeted person because of a wealthy relative (SG) there are a lot of famous adjunctive people who live in Tucson who are way wealthier than SG. I don't know the rules of listing people bc I'd assume that may be construed as Doxing, but it's an easy google to see who has siblings or other family members living in Tucson.

 

[agilbe]

I wonder if the investigation could be getting bogged down a bit due to the fact that Tucson has more than a usual amount of people from all over the country in town right now. The gem show is in town. Jan 28-Feb 15 Lots of various locations all over town. It just came to me.

 

[SlimPickens]

If the ransom notes were able to confirm where specific, relevant items where in the home or how they were placed (watch, etc), or what had been done to things (flood lights), then that would indicate that these things were done on purpose (duh) and with specific intent to use as confirmation of the abduction. Kind of like a serial killer and his trophies. This would then suggest that this was a well-sorted event and that the perp or perps knew in advance that there would need to be multiple special, unusual things done at, near, and/or to the home to prove that their demands were authentic. They also knew that these things would need to be done in advance if they had no intention or desire for intensive interactions, conversations, or negotiations with family or anyone else. In their eyes, perhaps, the authentication alone should be enough and there is no need to elaborate. Either pay or suffer consequences. "Believe me or not, I don't care!", in other words. This suggests complexity. And refinement. And a grudge.

Doing it this way would obviously be so that the perp(s) wouldn't put him/themselves at more risk of being tracked or located. And just like the letters being sent to media to publicize his/their brazen act, it also suggests that the ransom demand, fairly low by today's measures of wealth, could indeed be peripheral and not the primary reason for the abduction.

Just thinking a little (what is now likely considered) outside of the box.

JMO.

 

[apeXperience]

I'm perplexed as to why more billboards are going up if they are closing in and an arrest is imminent.

These interstate billboards are useful and sensible given the statement made by Ms. Savannah to the effect that the siblings believe their mother is still alive.
The billboards would alert some waitress at a restaurant in California or a gas station cashier in Texas or a truck driver in the interstates about a missing 84 year old woman with pictures in the billboards, in case the criminals are transporting her interstate given that more than a week has passed since the crime.
The FBI puts up the billboards but the cost of the billboards could be born of anyone willing to pay!
And the cost of these billboards is not stiff for someone making upper 8-digit $$$ per year such as Savannah and her friends.

 

[auburnmomof2]

Anyone else getting bombarded with crap posts about this case on social media? Just me? I have hidden and blocked more than I can count at this point! Thank you Tricia, Moderators and Websleuths members for being responsible, respectful and factual!
Just my opinion and shout out to everyone here

 

[thefragile7393]

Personally I think it would be interesting to know more about the local thoughts and dynamic in this case. I've often thought about what locals have to say about this case. I trust Tricia's judgment about what can and can't be said here.
Jmo

All anyone has to do is go on social media for local Tucson stations or on Reddit for wild speculations and accusations. Most have zero idea and simply throw everything out there in a disrespectful manner.

Most of these people wouldn’t be able to handle WS IMO,hence being here is such a refreshing experience

 

[Chrissymick]

Good point, Sheriff wasn’t sure how to respond when asked at the press conference if there was a threat to the public since no one has been arrested. Add to that, no more requests for tips from the public and any descriptions of anything people should be looking for etc.? It’s too quiet. Do they have a suspect in their sight?

OR ask for consent and at the same time explain why they’d also like a warrant. I’m really confused about the warrant issue. My take is the warrant is a good thing in terms of a future trial. Any findings with only a consent could be argued against, while a warrant is solid? In this situation would LE prefer a sealed or unsealed warrant? Help me here. Do we even know if a warrant has happened here?

Both a warrant and consent- as as long as the person consenting has authority to consent- will hold up in court. One spouse can consent to the search of the marital residence of both spouses the only limitation there might be if there were particular rooms or areas where the spouse didn't have authority to access. Were a warrant issued in this case my guess would be it would be sealed at least for now given the sensitivity of the investigation.

 

[Rush4087]

These interstate billboards are useful and sensible given the statement made by Ms. Savannah to the effect that the siblings believe their mother is still alive.
The billboards would alert some waitress at a restaurant in California or a gas station cashier in Texas or a truck driver in the interstates about a missing 84 year old women with pictures in the billboards, in case the criminals are transporting her interstate given that more than a week has passed since the crime.
The FBI puts up the billboards but the cost of the billboards could be born of anyone willing to pay!
And the cost of these billboards is not stiff for someone making upper 8-digit $$$ per year such as Savannah and her friends.

It wouldn't surprise me if it turned out to be DJT behind the billboards.

Jmo

 

[danablue1]

This is a really crazy thought but i hope they searched the guest house. I just remember JBR and them.not opening the door to check the little room and that's where she was found.