I haven’t seen any reporting on it. I imagine that at some point they may be asked. Not sure their lawyer would advise them to do it, innocent or not.I’m behind. Has there been any reporting on whether or not the family has been asked to take or has taken polygraphs?
Playing devil's advocate here, but many times the public assumes kidnapping is throwing a bag over someone's head and throwing them in a van - when the actual legal definition for kidnapping is being confined or moved from one place to another against your will. The sheriff probably needed to specify that she was moved against her will but nothing more - to avoid Hollywood style reporting in the news.I’ve been going over the first press conference and the sheriff seemed almost defensive in the way he said they’re considering it a kidnapping. “When someone is taken out and they don’t choose to go, it’s a kidnapping.” Or something like that. Then he said until they have other info that shows it’s a crime scene, it’s a kidnapping. It made me feel like..why are you having to convincing us it’s a kidnapping?
I don’t understand why they reported what the president said when he has no clue as to what’s going on that was so embarrassing
JMO Maybe the intent was kidnap for ransom but was complicated by the hostage succumbing to her fear and/or injury shortly after she was taken hostage whereby the ransomer lost their bargaining chip and had to dispose of it. They may never reveal where she is, because there may be DNA evidence of them on the victim. This is a horrible thought, I know, but trying to get into twisted minds to figure out what they may have done to protect themselves from being revealed. Unless it turns out that Nancy IS alive, I think that this was not well thought out and not sophisticated. I suspect that the culprits are fairly young. And local. Just my thoughts.You make some good points. AFAWK, no random DNA found..so rather sterile scene for unknown DNA. Nancy, imo, was taken because they were planning a ransom ..It's the only thing that makes sense to me. This was well planned. This was not random. This seems like the perp wanted attention. Plan A..abduction...then slide into ransom note mode. I am sticking with my theory that SG had a stalker and this was to get her attention..something along that line. I dont think this was a botched robbery. MOO
NG had a birthday on Jan. 27th so maybe it was a birthday dinnerDoes anyone know who dropped her off, and why so late? I wonder if it was a special celebration. Usually elderly people don’t stay up that late.
good morning all!I understand what you are saying. The theory that she was deceased before the last sync with the watch/phone then would be debunked.
It sounds like that we know she was alive at the time it last synced, but not necessarily that the specific time is when she was taken as many have pointed out her phone/watch could have been close to her and planted back in the home.
He needs 15 minutes in a barber chair!the really weird thing about this is, if he was not connected to the other ransom request, and money was put in the bitcoin wallet, it would not go to him so how crazy is he? wants 15 mins of fame and jail ASAP?
After the latest statement by Savannah yesterday and the ransom note dates passing, I agree with everything you said. It really seems like LE and the FBI don’t have much information, unless they are totally throwing it off as they close in on a suspect (which i hope is the case). I originally suspected the SIL mainly because it’s usually someone close to the victim vs a totally random crime but I’m leaning away from that now. I don’t know, this is one of the craziest cases ever. I really hope they find her alive, I’ve been praying for her.JMO Maybe the intent was kidnap for ransom but was complicated by the hostage succumbing to her fear and/or injury shortly after she was taken hostage whereby the ransomer lost their bargaining chip and had to dispose of it. They may never reveal where she is, because there may be DNA evidence of them on the victim. This is a horrible thought, I know, but trying to get into twisted minds to figure out what they may have done to protect themselves from being revealed. Unless it turns out that Nancy IS alive, I think that this was not well thought out and not sophisticated. I suspect that the culprits are fairly young. And local. Just my thoughts.
Please no. I can't imagine this continuing on and on for her loved ones. I'm praying LE is closer than it appears. I remember in other cases fearing LE was far away and then bam, an arrest with details that surprised me about how much they knew behind the scenes. MOOSomething in my gut tells me this will be an unsolved crime. LE seem to be nowhere after well over a week.
100%. It’s very strange."There’s no identifiable pattern.
There’s no suspect description, no vehicle info, no geographic narrowing.
Even when LE hold things back,some pattern usually leaks out.Here, so far there’s nothing."
Yes, exactly this. I keep thinking about the fact there's no description at all of what NG was wearing. I understand why it might not be possible to say, since she is missing, so we cannot assume, for example, that she was in PJ's or nightie, or still the clothes NG was wearing from evening out with her family, or other clothes etc.
But I imagine LE assessing NG's home etc, would be able to ascertain if her bed had been slept in, thereby implying nightwear was worn, or were the clothes she'd been wearing that evening were put in laundry basket etc. It just seems strange that the public hasn't been given an inkling as to what Nancy may have been wearing if there is an appeal out to find her, along with a £50k award?
SnippedI also find it strange that other than the search by LE, there hasn’t been the big community search teams out every day searching around NG’s house.
Was this camera always there? If so, why didn’t they take it previously? Or did LE place it there to watch for any activity? With the crime committed in the middle of the night and N being woken up by surprise, maybe she suffered a heart attack, would the pacemaker records be able to indicate that?Did the recovered (2/6) rooftop camera give LE any info? I hope so. They have not had a PC since this camera was recovered and presumably are not going to answer any questions about it right now. IMO
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SnippedNancy had such a small circle.
I also find it strange that other than the search by LE, there hasn’t been the big community search teams out every day searching around NG’s house.
Completely agree. LE would have location data from phones, towers, and any usage during key hours. Searches would be conducted whereever devices were pinging off towers. Depending on the year of a vehicle, they can download driving data or even location data from the vehicle. Considering that the only searches (that we know of) have occurred at only two places, makes me think someone's story isn't adding up but there isn't enough evidence to affect an arrest -OR- they have someone(s) under surveillance -OR- they have been negotiating with someone(s) to disclose where NG is and that negotiation is not going well.good morning all!
I would shocked if the FBI or SO doesn't already have location data for all phones/watch/vehicles involved. Routers in the homes would show what devices were connected and times, etc. I don't even think this is data that is hard to find, even if just for preliminary findings, digging deeper may take time. But the basics, a week later, with FBI working 24/7 and their resources, I would be shocked if they don't know exactly where NG's phone/watch and where TC's phone/vehicle was that night.
IF she had her watch on and was made to take it off or it was taken off of her, it would probably have the time of that too.
all JMO