Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[m00c0w]

Yes, really! A judicial warrant must be specific about what they are looking for and they must state evidence upon which they have reasonable articulable suspicion for a judge to issue the warrant. The warrant is then limited to the specific items the warrant authorizes to search for. There is also a report generated from a judicial warrant within a few days specifying exactly what was found and seized.

So let's say they get a warrant to search for blood droplets or other evidence related to the kidnapping of NG...

Then they find 100 kg of cocaine...

In general they cannot sieze the cocaine nor can they use the findings of the kidnapping search to get a new warrant for the cocaine. In some cases they can if they can find other evidence to connect it the the kidnapping, and in some jurisdictions the restrictions may be more lax.

Judicial searches must be specific and supported by reasonable evidence acquired through regular investigation.

In a traffic stop, yes they can seize anything in plain sight because traffic stops are different. But not in a house search unless a judge specifically authorizes it.

Consentual searches are a free for all. They can take anything. Looking for kidnapping evidence but find your anal sex tape and it is illegal in your jurisdiction or it's not but you are a high profile person, public servant, teacher or whatever...now they have leveredge. There are no circumstances whatsoever I would ever submit to a voluntary search! And I really have nothing to hide. But to a stupid cop, my tiny ziplocs and scale for measuring cooking herbs are what they are taught are indicators of drug dealing. I don't need that when I can just say no. If they want to get a judicial warrant, fine, then they are restricted to what they specifically said they were looking for and the specific crimes they stated in the warrant.

This is not correct at all. If they found the cocaine in a place they could reasonably search to find a body, they can absolutely apply for a second warrant to seize the cocaine. You don’t have to cover your eyes and plug your ears and ignore crimes because the warrant didn’t specify that particular crime.

The issue would be if they were looking for a body and found a gram of coke in a small dresser drawer. A body wouldn’t be in the drawer, so the search was most likely unlawful.

Edit: this mostly falls under plain view doctrine because the officer has legal authority to be in a position to see the evidence of other crimes.

JMO

 

[Deleted member 117884]

It's a 2 hour time difference in winter. ( I was just in Tucson last week for the Gem Show)

The time difference is a good point, though. If they noticed her missing by 11am, that means a 9am service in NYC, which I think is too early for this city (I'm in NYC and guessing which church they watched).

I think the church friends likely gathered before the service actually began, for breakfast, chatting, Bible study. And, when NG was late and didn't pick up the phone, they were immediately concerned. I'm sure they didn't expect a kidnapping but perhaps an injury at home, illness, car accident, etc.

Rings true to me.

jmo

 

[K9Enzo]

I believe she liked to watch the wildlife. I live in Washington state and there are people in my neighborhood who love to share on FB every single deer, elk, coyote, raccoon, occasional bear that comes across their backyard camera.

Yes, I do believe it was her own camera (not planted by bad guys). I hope her interest in watching wildlife with this camera was still active and this camera was still operational with footage LE could recover. IMO

 

[Catdetective]

BIG APOLOGY PLEASE READ ​

I want to apologize for how I handled things yesterday.

This is why we love you Tricia.

 

[Soccer Hooligan]

This seems odd. Why put up billboards in Texas? Unless they think she is alive and being moved.

Saw one already here in the Dallas area.

 

[EJB123456]

https://people.com/savannah-guthrie-missing-mom-nancy-no-cognitive-issues-police-say-11897262

“We don’t typically get the sheriff out to a scene like this, but it’s very concerning what we’re learning from the house,” Nanos said, adding that a homicide team is also investigating. “It’s not standard — typically our homicide team comes out when we have a homicide, a body. But simply by what the scene was telling us, we felt the need to bring the homicide team.”

Listen maybe I’m bonkers but I know if it was me and my family, and that home was ‘released’ to us so quickly - we would have congregated over there. Unless of course it didn’t look ‘normal’. And with homicide coming in almost immediately?

Maybe the inside of that house looked much more like a crime scene than we’ve discussed.

 

[EJB123456]

Can I ask how readily available Nancy’s address would have been prior to the incident? Im not American but I know you guys have public record websites. Is it something a person would have been able to easily retrieve? In my country that data is somewhat protected.

Simple to find should you wish to. Public records.

 

[Cathy5701]

NEW MESSAGE FROM SAVANNAH GUTHRIE
(Monday Feb 9th 2026)
CLICK HERE AND WATCH THE MESSAGE

Media Links and Timeline Thread Here​

An 84-year-old woman who was reported missing in Arizona has been identified by officials as the mother of "Today" show host Savannah Guthrie.

The Pima County Sheriff’s Department announced during a news conference on Sunday that Nancy Guthrie was last seen in the Catalina Foothills area on Saturday night at approximately 9:45 p.m.

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos said a family member reported her missing on Sunday, around noon.

Nanos said search and rescue teams have been out at Nancy Gutherie's home, along with homicide teams and detectives.

Foul play has not been ruled out at this time.

'Bring her home': Savannah Guthrie addresses her mother missing in possible abduction

An 84-year-old woman who was reported missing in Arizona has been identified by officials as the mother of "Today" show host Savannah Guthrie.

abcnews.go.com

I don’t understand why they reported what the president said when he has no clue as to what’s going on that was so embarrassing

 

[GatorFL]

Well now we know she was supposed to meet at a friends house to watch church.

New Details Emerge About Nancy Guthrie's Plans Before She Vanished: REPORT

A source claims Nancy Guthrie was expected at a friend's house and not at a church service on the day she was reported missing.

entertainmentnow.com

 

[Cathy5701]

Does anyone know who dropped her off, and why so late? I wonder if it was a special celebration. Usually elderly people don’t stay up that late.

I thought she got dropped off on Sat night

 

[Cathy5701]

I thought she got dropped off on Sat night

The son-in law

 

[DizzyB]

The only thing I will credit the Sheriff with was that he kept much of the scene details out of his press conferences, as he should. He is no wordsmith, and he seems over his head. If his department did not welcome the FBI’s involvement and stalled the process, that’s a whole other thing.

 

[cherryleaf]

There’s no identifiable pattern.
There’s no suspect description, no vehicle info, no geographic narrowing.
Even when LE hold things back, some pattern usually leaks out. Here, so far there’s nothing. There is no answers to the who, how, or why. What’s missing is order. The situation has urgency but they’re aren’t asking the public to really do anything specific other than keep eyes and ears open for HER. This urgency without direction feels hollow. How else can the public help? I trust and believe they are working hard behind the scenes. I understand that LE silence can be a strategy but Until something connects evidence to a specific person or persons, there is no suspect, just data and most likely a limited suspect pool. I find it incredibly frustrating just with the information the public has. I selfishly want more information. I want LE/FBI to go faster. I want them to Find her, bring her home! I cannot even begin to imagine the frustration, anger, fear, suspicion, sadness, etc that the family is dealing with. Just totally horrible. I remain cautiously optimistic and hopeful for NG and her family. Please God be with this family.

 

[Napoli]

I appreciate the differing angles posted here. I have not been shy about my own theory. However, some of you are planting some seeds in my mind that I want to water:

(I'm mostly using other's ideas and adding my own color)

Random-ish crime: Could still be someone close, like someone who works around/at the house. The destruction of cameras is not some sophicated act by someone with intimate knowledge of NG lack of cloud services, but someone seeing a camera and destroying it. Entry made, something happens, NG is deceased shortly after.

My questions are:
1) LE has never said the crime scene was "disturbing" or that they suspect she is deceased based on the crime scene. The family seems to believe she was/is alive and the FBI/LE have been entertaining the ransom situation. Is there any reason to believe NG was deceased vs kidnapped?

2) a robbery gone wrong, involving a random(ish) person rarely involves complete removal of the body. The perps simply don't plan to transport and dispose of a body. Clearly NG was removed. What are theories behind removing NG after a botched robbery?

3) Lack of suspect evidence in the house. How did a random-ish person(s) keep sterile during a robbery gone wrong? My opinion has been that the lack of foreign DNA is because the perp is someone expected to be in the house. So how did a random person avoid any DNA evidence?
**you would expect worker DNA in some parts of the house, but not in a bedroom for example

You make some good points. AFAWK, no random DNA found..so rather sterile scene for unknown DNA. Nancy, imo, was taken because they were planning a ransom ..It's the only thing that makes sense to me. This was well planned. This was not random. This seems like the perp wanted attention. Plan A..abduction...then slide into ransom note mode. I am sticking with my theory that SG had a stalker and this was to get her attention..something along that line. I dont think this was a botched robbery. MOO

 

[HoveringWombats]

The ransom note came, what, three days later? You know who would know where specific things were found in the house? Law enforcement. Detectives. Who knows if any of them ran their mouths and someone is trying to cash in with a fake ransom. The police seem to be in over their heads and making a lot of mistakes. Who knows if they let some info slip out. They could have said to someone (family, friends) without thinking where they found her watch. I don’t get the feeling that they’re doing things by the book. A lot of mistakes.

BBM

One day later. Not three. Reported missing Sunday, first ransom note to the local TV station on Monday.

Source 1: A timeline of the disappearance of and search for Nancy Guthrie
Source 2: What we know about the ransom notes in the Nancy Guthrie case

 

[HoveringWombats]

To me, the FBI Director Kash Patel is running to Arizona because ... results are slow to come and higher up supervision is needed to motivate the foot soldiers with their work.

The trip was planned before this even happened. Source: Second ransom deadline passes in Nancy Guthrie disappearance

Editing to add the quote from the source so you don't have to search for it: "FBI Director Kash Patel will be in Tucson on Monday for a visit that was scheduled before Guthrie’s disappearance."

 

[HoveringWombats]

That the first ransom note(s) was sent a couple of days after NG’s disappearance in an email, likely encrypted, to TMZ and local news station(s), in addition to SG stating in the first video she posted “we too have heard the reports about a ransom letter in the media”, I don’t believe SG and/or her siblings received the note(s) directly by email nor that a note was left at the scene that fateful night.

The first ransom note was sent one day after the disappearance, and not to TMZ. TMZ got it two days later but it had already been sent to local news the day before. It was sent via the news tips form, not as email. See my post a couple above for links to sources.

I guess this is my new bugbear...

 

[Cipher Vale]

It's not that her heart stopped. Pre cell phones and WIFI..there was no way to montor any aberrant beats etc. With the cell phone or some other kind of digital MONITOR within range..there are now pacemakers with something implanted that can project the information on to a device that eventually sends a message to a central point for analysis etc. So! If she was say 100 yards from her monitor, the pacemaker is still working, her heart is still beating but the monitor can't communicate with it because she is too far away.. Hope I am explaining this correctly.

I understand what you are saying. The theory that she was deceased before the last sync with the watch/phone then would be debunked.

It sounds like that we know she was alive at the time it last synced, but not necessarily that the specific time is when she was taken as many have pointed out her phone/watch could have been close to her and planted back in the home.

 

[Ltiger4]

I’m behind. Has there been any reporting on whether or not the family has been asked to take or has taken polygraphs?

 

[Scorpiette]

"There’s no identifiable pattern.
There’s no suspect description, no vehicle info, no geographic narrowing.
Even when LE hold things back,some pattern usually leaks out.Here, so far there’s nothing."
Yes, exactly this. I keep thinking about the fact there's no description at all of what NG was wearing. I understand why it might not be possible to say, since she is missing, so we cannot assume, for example, that she was in PJ's or nightie, or still the clothes NG was wearing from evening out with her family, or other clothes etc.
But I imagine LE assessing NG's home etc, would be able to ascertain if her bed had been slept in, thereby implying nightwear was worn, or were the clothes she'd been wearing that evening were put in laundry basket etc. It just seems strange that the public hasn't been given an inkling as to what Nancy may have been wearing if there is an appeal out to find her, along with a £50k award?

There’s no identifiable pattern.
There’s no suspect description, no vehicle info, no geographic narrowing.
Even when LE hold things back, some pattern usually leaks out. Here, so far there’s nothing. There is no answers to the who, how, or why. What’s missing is order. The situation has urgency but they’re aren’t asking the public to really do anything specific other than keep eyes and ears open for HER. This urgency without direction feels hollow. How else can the public help? I trust and believe they are working hard behind the scenes. I understand that LE silence can be a strategy but Until something connects evidence to a specific person or persons, there is no suspect, just data and most likely a limited suspect pool. I find it incredibly frustrating just with the information the public has. I selfishly want more information. I want LE/FBI to go faster. I want them to Find her, bring her home! I cannot even begin to imagine the frustration, anger, fear, suspicion, sadness, etc that the family is dealing with. Just totally horrible. I remain cautiously optimistic and hopeful for NG and her family. Please God be with this family.