AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Not to be that person, but if a question was already answered (like there being a flashlight in the guy's mouth) could 15 other people not say the same thing/take the time to read posts?? I know it's not a rule/I'm not a moderator LOL.

But most posts are repetitive now and we're missing discussion of some important points people are making...

For example, unless you actually have a strong reason to disagree on it being a flashlight, maybe don't make a post JUST commenting on that and summarize several points of yours in one post?

Sorry don't hate me! I agree this is very scary and upsetting and we're all reacting as such
This happens with all fast-moving threads.

People don't know they're being repetitive, because at the time they make their post, they are still many pages behind and haven't seen that their comment has already been said.

I normally try to catch up to the end of the thread before making a post, but when a thread is moving this fast that is generally impossible.

The irony, of course, is that these duplicate posts are a good part of WHY the thread is moving so fast...

MOO
 
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I wonder if this person thought SG would be there and she was the target. Did they want to kidnap her? Why would someone hurt an 84 year old grandma!?!
 
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Someone is crapping in their pants with all of these images coming out!
 
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Indeed it is.

He had it way low though and not tucked in. He seemed to have it concealed first then displayed it out in the open as he approached. Two things with this position, easy access quick draw, and intimidation/brandishing factor.

Still elements of things thrown together for me. Should have been all black, no reflective stripes on backpack, just a wonky rag tag look for a seasoned criminal. Very brazen as well in the approach. Would seem to know exactly what was behind the door (no threat of a dog or guy with a 12 gauge)
 

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Maybe the plant was in case NG looked at her camera in real time, it was the only thing available to him to try to distract the camera from his presence. Poor cover but it must have occurred to him that she might get an alert and see it, spoiling the advantage of ambush from inside the home.

JMO
 
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In my opinion...from a mom perspective here...the only way Nancy would've opened the door for that is if they said they had one of her kids and would kill them if she didn't go with them. We don't know what the inside of her house looked like after this crime. So I won't speculate. But I can say with certainty that my 80 year old mama, with similar health issues (pacemaker), would've complied or fought like hell if she thought any of her adult children were in danger.
Where is Nancy!? Bring her home!!
 
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Video of suspect


LIVE: Coverage of Nancy Guthrie investigation | NBC News​

Video is near the end for those who want to view it.

So many questions! To me, this brings obsessed fan higher on the list of possibilities. NG was featured a lot on SG’s show. Good way to get SG’s attention.

But how did this person get inside the home? There was no sign of forced entry. And yet, did they seem surprised by the camera?
 
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My opinion:
two pairs of gloves, the hands are moving oddly for someone wearing only nitrile or latex gloves so an added layer with, perhaps, knitted gloves. This might be to prevent leaving fingerprints once the gloves we're seeing are discarded.
The same goes for the clothes. I am thinking two layers so that the ones that might show on camera can be easily discarded and the appearance can be changed.
There is something feminine about the eyes and lips. The mustache looks too groomed to be real. The selection of a mask with two different shades around the eyes is to create the impression that the person might be male or female, but there's something on the upper lashes (moving to the outside of the eyes) that makes me think of rimmel...mascara.
As the person leans forward (quite awkwardly so the contents of the backpack might be heavy?) to pick up the greenery, they look back. This person was probably not alone, but was the person assigned to enter the home while the other idled the engine.

I see a weapon tucked into the front of the waistband, but I might be mistaken.

All my opinions.
IMHO and I'm not an expert but the lashes appear to be those partial lashes to me.


I only heard of them recently as someone was wearing them and I asked them what mascara they used and they told me they were partial lashes.
 
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He approaches the sidewalk from the yard, not the driveway. I wonder if there's a car to the left of this video.

I suppose this is why LE was looking at the ground to the left of Nancy's sidewalk entrance.
 
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Oh my God! I honestly feel nauseated seeing this monster! May God be with the Guthrie family.
 
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Gait shows his left foot turns outward more so than right. Someone is going to recognize this person’s gait and/or clothing.
Would a recent surgery, possibly in the knee, cause that?
 
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wow. Just saw the images/video. So at least we know now, or I think I know now, NG made it home after dinner. And then some unidentified masked and armed individual (Male IMO) crept up in the wee hours and apparently broke into poor Nancy's home.
 
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I might be wrong, but to me it looks like a 'mismatch' of 3 hole balaclava, gloves and jacket. It sounds planned but 'amateurish'.

It was so obvious that the FBI had more then they were actually saying.
Agree. His outfit, mask(s), backpack and gun/holster - plus not anticipating the nest cam - all convey "amateur" to me. MO
 
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I might be wrong, but to me it looks like a 'mismatch' of 3 hole balaclava, gloves and jacket. It sounds planned but 'amateurish'.

It was so obvious that the FBI had more then they were actually saying.
And the way he’s wearing the holster is bananas. I agree he’s not a pro.
 
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In my opinion...from a mom perspective here...the only way Nancy would've opened the door for that is if they said they had one of her kids and would kill them if she didn't go with them. We don't know what the inside of her house looked like after this crime. So I won't speculate. But I can say with certainty that my 80 year old mama, with similar health issues (pacemaker), would've complied or fought like hell if she thought any of her adult children were in danger.
Where is Nancy!? Bring her home!!

Good point.

Do we know what time this was recorded?
 
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I wonder if these videos and pics of the suspect at the door are not from right before the crime, but directly after it? Something to throw off LE? Very strange!
 

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