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This article references the cameras ‘were’ present …it’s just sounding more like an inside job. There’s also a gem show in Tucson. I don’t know if that’s relevant, but the sister is in the jewelry business. As for the cameras…maybe removed while she/they went away on Sat. Seems it would be someone who knows a lot about her and her house.
Dispatch audio recounts moment Nancy Guthrie reported missing
I think the cameras were present and smashed, and Ashleigh banfield said that her L/e source said that L/E took them and Brian Entin said that was confusing b/c when he asked at the press conference “ we notice the cameras were gone” the sheriff said “we noticed that too.”
But the sheriff also said he may not have been briefed on some things, so it’s possible L/e maybe took them and didnt inform him yet?
 
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I think the cameras were present and smashed, and Ashleigh banfield said that her L/e source said that L/E took them and Brian Entin said that was confusing b/c when he asked at the press conference “ we notice the cameras were gone” the sheriff said “we noticed that too.”
But the sheriff also said he may not have been briefed on some things, maybe they took them and didnt inform him yet?

Too much speculation from too many sources IMO.

Hopefully we'll know more tomorrow.

Praying Nancy is found soon.

JMVHO.
 
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Too much speculation from too many sources IMO.

Hopefully we'll know more tomorrow.

Praying Nancy is found soon.

JMVHO.
Very true, some things seem like they could be true and then it turns out it isnt.
 
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Perhaps the kidnapper stopped there while carrying NG's body to grab the Ring camera.

It's been reported that she was attacked while in her bed. Her Pacemaker stopped syncing with her Apple watch @2am Sunday morning.
Daughter dropped her off after church dinner around 9:30pm to 9:45pm. There's no way in my opinion that daughter would not make sure Mom, victim, was safe and sound in bed before leaving house. Maybe daughter left house at 2AM? The blood spots in front exterior entry way stop before gravel which seems to mean maybe car right there. I see so many pictures of victim and daughter Savannah but like maybe one of Annie. That speaks volumes to me.
 
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Victim was 150 pounds and needed assistance with walking more than like 50 yards. If Apple Watch near bed to charge and pacemaker stopped sychronizing with Apple watch at 2am, sounds like victim was wrapped and carried to car which maybe bloodlets in front entry way were from like a nose bleed while alive or post mortem
 
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See I’m a Millenial, we don’t answer the door period, regardless of time of day 😂
Did you know that burglars will often come knock or ring at the door, and if nobody answers, they figure it's safe to go on in.
 
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Did you know that burglars will often come knock or ring at the door, and if nobody answers, they figure it's safe to go on in.
Sounds like this was intimate crime, not some random burglar gone bad
 
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This article references the cameras ‘were’ present …it’s just sounding more like an inside job. There’s also a gem show in Tucson. I don’t know if that’s relevant, but the sister is in the jewelry business. As for the cameras…maybe removed while she/they went away on Sat. Seems it would be someone who knows a lot about her and her house.
https://www.newsnationnow.com/missing/nancy-guthrie-disappearance-reward-offered/

Every year there is a gem show in Tucson, every year something sensational happens there, every year the price of gold and silver goes up, and through all high drama, the jewelers survive. I’d venture to guess, it is unrelated to jewelry business. JMO.
 
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Cameras smashing if any was like a Hail Mary to conceal crime in which suspect knows about cloud and video already being captured with camera smashing not really going to do anything to hide crime
 
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about 1 hour at the house.
If last person to see victim alive was the one at the house to do welfare check, sounds reasonable about an hour before calling 911 which is a long time to call 911. I wonder when exactly the cameras were altered and if any cleaning up was done
 
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If you zoom in you can see the tiny spray drops. I thought that meant impact of some sort, either sharp or blunt. Would dripping blood cause all that tiny spray?
I’d love to hear opinions. I’m just a forensic files watcher and really don’t know lol
lots of perfectly round spots of blood. Seems to come from like being carried and maybe some nose bleed droplets
 
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lots of perfectly round spots of blood. Seems to come from like being carried and maybe some nose bleed droplets
I had a wierd fall a few months ago and hit my face. It caused an awful nosebleed. That's what the droplets reminded me of. (Of course there are other factors involved here) I don't think there were any fine droplets involved in my case.
 
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Sounds like this was intimate crime, not some random burglar gone bad
I was actually warning the person I replied to, because they said they never answer the door.
 
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I had a wierd fall a few months ago and hit my face. It caused an awful nosebleed. That's what the droplets reminded me of. (Of course there are other factors involved here) I don't think there were any fine droplets involved in my case.
If a person have prescribed anticoagulantia medicines, they might get spontaneous nosebleeds, for example from sneezing, or blowing their nose. They can also bleed more easily from minor wounds.
 
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New info (for me) from that Youtube video with Ashleigh Banfield:

<modsnip>

Back door left wide open.
Nest cameras smashed.
Blood also found inside the house.
Annie Guthrie's car towed.
<modsnip: Info about a POI has not been confirmed by LE>

She claims this info comes from a LE source with impeccable credentials. But caveats it by saying prime suspect does not mean guilty.

ETA: link
 
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If a person have prescribed anticoagulantia medicines, they might get spontaneous nosebleeds, for example from sneezing, or blowing their nose. They can also bleed more easily from minor wounds.
Yes, I think those fine spray droplets look like they could come from a bloody sneeze. The blood pattern isn't just droplets, there is some spray there too.
 
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If the tiny drops are splatter from expirated blood, then there are two sources of the blood since expirated blood would not cause the larger more formed drops. I guess both of these patterns could be seen in a nose bleed which can occur with minimal trauma in a person taking blood thinners.
With a heavy nosebleed, she would probably have blood running down her throat (which would cause those smaller droplets if she coughed) at the same time it was dripping from her nose ☹️
 
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