AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[thefragile7393]

she is a poet.

she is a jeweler. And a poet yes, but I'm thinking the jeweler part might bring the money in a little better IMO

 

[auburnmomof2]

Tricia said yesterday this Tiktok was allowed from this forensic scientist, former CSI, blood stain spatter specialist yesterday so bringing i it up again for anyone who might have missed it.

It's about the blood outside and it's quite interesting, IMO.

TikTok - Make Your Day

Very informative. Thank you! This case has my brain on overdrive

 

[academyrd]

He would know how many there are and where and either avoid them or break them one after another, within a minute or so. Even without much pre-planning that gap in the timeline is too big for me.

I would say that even attempting to disarm cameras shows great familiarity with the house and where the cameras were, which is another data point pointing towards SIL

 

[turaj]

i don't know that NG was worth millions and millions of dollars.....

Not a clue what her assets are other than the house but my guess is she was wisely invested over the years and has a nice bank account.

 

[thefragile7393]

What does this mean… biological evidence?

In response to reporter asking if there is any other physical evidence?

He basically says we processed the scene for biological evidence and we are still hopeful that maybe something will show up there.
About 1:04:40 in

Hair. fingerprints. spit. sputum. I don't know, it's so vague but those are some ideas IMO

 

[DrGonzo]

Real estate is ridiculous now. I don't think the price of their home means anything.

Do we know when they've moved in? Is it paid for? Pre-covid mortgate being paid off from a teacher's salary in 2026? Whose house is it, anyway? (on paper, at least)

 

[moonbeams]

Agreed. Since Ben’s murder, I will no longer take Uber alone, either.

It does seem a bit strange to me especially since they were so close (10 minutes away).

One would think either AG or TC could have quickly gone to get her (just as they allegedly drove her home) whilst the other member of the couple could have stayed at their home waiting for any other guests.

Moreover, Nancy still has her car. Though her mobility is limited, if she does still drive, even occasionally, why did Nancy not just drive herself to AG’s home rather than taking this Uber (being that she was traveling to a familiar location that is a very short distance from her home)?

Is it possible she just chooses not to drive at night? (She left in Uber at 5:32pm per the press conference & sunset in Tucson was not until 5:57pm on 01/31/2026.)

Is there a possibility that she consumes medication in the pm hours that would potentially impair her ability to safely drive?

Did we ever find out/has it been determined whether anyone else besides AG and TC was at “game night?”

(Sorry if this was previously stated somewhere. This thread has moved so quickly, it is difficult to keep up/difficult to read every post.)

**All of the above are my opinions only/my ideas & potential theories. Edited to add time of sunset and Uber departure time.**

my opinion is she knew she would be going back home in the dark and does not drive at night by choice.

sure... she could have driven herself then left her car and family drive her home... but she needed her car to go to church in the morning.. thus... uber.

all moo

 

[Gemmie]

What does this mean… biological evidence?

In response to reporter asking if there is any other physical evidence?

He basically says we processed the scene for biological evidence and we are still hopeful that maybe something will show up there.
About 1:04:40 in

Biological evidence includes blood, other body fluids such as semen, and contact. SOURCE

Biological evidence, which contains DNA, is a type of physical evidence. However, biological evidence is not always visible to the naked eye. SOURCE

The biological material used to determine a DNA profile include blood, semen, saliva, urine, feces, hair, teeth, bone, tissue and cells. SOURCE

 

[auburnmomof2]

Certainly not alarming. When I tried to break up a potential fight between my cat and a raccoon, my cat in his fury bit and attacked ME ! The amount of blood was terrible, pooled all over the floors whilst rushing to the sink to clean it. At the urgent care next day I didn't even need stitches, just a double dose of antibiotics. I'm not young either.

More worried about Nancy's psychological state and heart than those blood drops.

Agree 100% And we don't know if that particular door was the main entrance she used all the time

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I'm all for art but in most cases this isn't a source of income, more likely the exact opposite. If they live within a 10 minutes drive of NG it's pretty much the same area, so very nice suburban Tucson. From what I've learned here the about the price of real estate out there, admittedly know knowing that much about the details and so forth and so on (I'm not from the USA), a teacher and a poet (without some additional source of income) would be out of their league a bit out there, wouldn't they?

There IS money in the family. So be it.. Often, the case, is just that they do help out others with real estate ......
Harping on the value of either home just seems fruitless.
Nancy bought her house in 1975 for 85K (discussed a lot early in the thread)

I am not saying finances could be an issue. I am just saying that the costs of the properties is just not that relevant.

 

[turaj]

So she's a poet and he's a teacher. They just bought a house last year for 650 thousand something? Is that a normal amount with these jobs? Idk if being a poet is a job tho Maybe SG helped with funding so they can look after mom a bit? Where i live (Netherlands) no way with these jobs it's possible to afford a home of this value so i really have no idea

i think you could be right about. AG helping her mother as the only child that is local. SG could have helped her. At least from public accounts they have been close with the mother and each other. It is a nice house but these days not considered super expensive,

 

[Cardgame]

What does this mean… biological evidence?

In response to reporter asking if there is any other physical evidence?

He basically says we processed the scene for biological evidence and we are still hopeful that maybe something will show up there.
About 1:04:40 in

Yeah I wondered what he meant by that. Maybe...?

- Blood that has been cleaned up, but then shows up under UV light that once found then needs to be tested
- unidentified fingerprints that need to be cross referenced against known visitors?
- unidentified hairs " "
- fibres that might lead to a weapon or restraints (eg rope) but that they haven't identified yet

Presumably there's nothing they have found that immediately flags on the police database.

But perhaps they need to rule out every person's DNA profile who they know has been inside the house, and then they might identify some belonging to someone who is unknown.

At which point they could test against possible future suspects?

All total speculation!

 

[gammagirl]

she is a jeweler. And a poet yes, but I'm thinking the jeweler part might bring the money in a little better IMO

Yes. Wrote a book of poems called, "the good Dark" ?

 

[SaraSmile]

Ah, sorry if my post was unclear.

The information that they waited an hour has now been corrected. They waited only a short time before calling LE.

I'm wondering where that misinformation came from, and why it hasn't been corrected by LE (or anyone else) before now?

Thank you! I saw that, too, in an updated timeline.

 

[SouthernSummer]

Are they still saying that she was taken from her bed or have they walked that back? Also, someone mentioned a 5pm deadline? I didn’t know the ransom note was published

 

[SRWCF]

she is a jeweler. And a poet yes, but I'm thinking the jeweler part might bring the money in a little better IMO

Annie Guthrie​

Annie Guthrie is a writer and jeweler from Tucson. Guthrie is author of a book of jewelry design with Chronicle Books and a book of poems, The Good Dark, with Tupelo Press. She was awarded a 2016 Arizona Commission on the Arts Fellowship to complete a book of non-fiction. Guthrie is currently Marketing and Publicity Director for feminist/activist Kore Press, and runs a commission-only jewelry business at the Splinter Brothers & Sisters Warehouse. She has been teaching the discipline of “Oracular Writing” since 2009.

Annie Guthrie

Annie Guthrie is a writer and jeweler from Tucson. Guthrie is author of a book of jewelry design with Chronicle Books and a book of poems, The Good Dark, with Tupelo Press. She was awarded a 2016 Arizona Commission on the Arts Fellowship to complete a book of non-fiction. Guthrie is currently...

poetry.arizona.edu

 

[Megnut]

I wonder if LE was able to pinpoint where NG sustained the injury that resulted in the blood by the door. And from that surmise how the injury happened. Was she assailed? Was she forced to move faster than she could and tripped? Was anything missing and whom could they ask? Did they let her out shoes on? It had to be utterly terrifying.

JMO

 

[mls128]

Possible she doesn't drive at night and knew she wouldn't be comfortable driving home. Then if Annie and husband are preparing dinner

Am I the only one who doesn't think the price of the house is ridiculous? Yes, he's a teacher and we don't know exactly how Annie earns money. But they are in their late 50's and wealth does accumulate. Maybe Nancy helped them, maybe Savannah did, maybe no one did. I know teachers in my area who have similarly priced homes. It's only slightly above the national median. Real estate is ridiculous now. I don't think the price of their home means anything.

Was thinking the same thing about all the comments on the price of their house. Our 1800 sq ft house is worth $650, my husband has a very normal job and I am a SAHM. We live in the northeast and that’s just what you have to spend to be in a decent school district here.

 

[legalmomma]

Chris @ 3:32
Nancy is not capable of leaving the house on her own, there's no way she's physically able to get up and leave.
Yet she was in her home by herself?

my opinion is she knew she would be going back home in the dark and does not drive at night by choice.

sure... she could have driven herself then left her car and family drive her home... but she needed her car to go to church in the morning.. thus... uber.

all moo

The thread is moving so fast so maybe this has been answered- since she’s not very mobile and used Uber to transport the evening she went to Anne’s, did she plan to Uber to church?? Or how was she getting to church- sources?

 

[academyrd]

My thoughts as well.


For a family member who would already be in the line of an inheritance, or whose spouse would be, this IMO would be a reckless way to get the money sooner.

Nancy is 84. Even if she lived ten more years, a family member doing this is on a high-wire act. So much can go wrong and you’ll never see the money if you get caught.

Which I fervently hope will be the case, no matter who did this.

Yes murder is not rational but people do it all the time for motives such as a large sum of money