AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[CandyKiss]

Ok now my brain is stuck on could the ransom email have been sent from NG’s computer as someone mentioned up thread? Can you program an email to be sent at a later time. I’m no techie so I don’t know. If so what a clever way to get around your ransom email not being traced back to you. “You won’t get any further communication” because I won’t have access to this computer again type thing. Remember the FBI gal carrying out something large wrapped in brown paper. I have heard speculation it was a computer. Also this could explain why the house was again cordoned off after it was released back to the family. The ransom email could have triggered that if determined to have come from her computer being it was received after the house was released to family. Just another thought.

Good observation.
Can you program an email to be sent at a later time?
Yes, you can. If the perps did that; LE can verify if sent from that computer, the time created and the time set to send to TMZ.

 

[LaLaw2000]

There have been so very many reasonable reasons for the Uber in previous threads.
It might be more helpful to not stir up this hornet nest again...
This is not really a criticism... just a suggestion to go back to see all the answers to your questions.
Like HA that's an easy thing to do on this thread!!!

But I would like to know who it was that called/suggested the Uber. Was it Nancy and was it something she normally did or just occasionally? Sincere question.

 

[wyome]

Just a thought. AB has reported that a vehicle was impounded, but there are no images of that. A while back I linked info. that states a car can be processed at a residence. Perhaps the car was “impounded/processed” at AG’s home. (To avoid a media circus). Not sure if this has ever been done, but it would explain the fact that allegedly a car was impounded, but no reporter has images to confirm that.

A sheriff said a car was processed as part of standard investigative practices as officials continue to investigate Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance.

“The car that was at the home, it’s just standard investigative practices. It’s part of the search warrant scene. The court orders, we pull it out of there and do our scene processing with the vehicle,” Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos said at a press conference on Thursday.

Nanos did not state who the car belonged to.

Journalist Ashleigh Banfield said on her podcast Drop Dead Serious that officials towed and impounded the vehicle of Annie Guthrie, Nancy’s daughter, citing a law enforcement source.

Nancy Guthrie update: Sheriff responds after Annie Guthrie car sparks rumor

A sheriff said a car was processed as part of standard practices as officials continue investigating Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance

www.newsweek.com

Also, I've been looking and cannot locate the source yet, but I do remember someone posted that Annie's car (IF it was hers) is an older car (2005 or 2008?) and this person's belief is it's too old for tracking systems.

 

[Inthedetails]

Good observation.
Can you program an email to be sent at a later time?
Yes, you can. If the perps did that; LE can verify if sent from that computer, the time created and the time set to send to TMZ.

I don't think the ransom was programmed to be delivered at a later date simply because the situation is unpredictable - what if something happened before the letter was to be sent and the perp didn't want to send it afterall. I don't think a perp would set himself for that, imo.

jmo

 

[shonyakay]

Early on it was reported that Nancy played mah jong and then went to dinner. If that’s true, I’d expect that there was a group of other people there. Mah jong is a four-player game. And usually, there’s more than one group playing, because it’s a social kind of thing, women getting together.

If she did, I imagine that would be the last occasion she was seen by someone other than family and the Uber driver.

It was reported Nancy was playing Mahjong at Annie's house that evening. There is a picture of Nancy sitting at a table with the game right in front of her. I am unsure of the date of that picture but would be interested to know when it was actually taken. Something interesting to note is that Nancy has a big band-aid on her right forearm in that picture. Only reason to wear a band-aid is if a wound is/was bleeding.

 

[Friday Fan]

Also, I've been looking and cannot locate the source yet, but I do remember someone posted that Annie's car (IF it was hers) is an older car (2005 or 2008?) and this person's belief is it's too old for tracking systems.

OK, thanks.....

 

[Bluewing3102]

Yes, that happens frequently, imo. While the public is crying that LE isn't doing anything, LE is busy solving the case. Hope that is happening here.

jmo

Agree and disagree. Yes very common when LE don't want to spook a suspect and are building a case. However there is still a sliver of hope that Nancy is alive somewhere which means the clock is against them. It has been 6 days which is way too long for an abduction of a fragile lady with health issues and medication needs. If LE were on the right track, maybe they would have maybe told a fake story in an early press conference to throw off a perp but then within a day or two would find the location of the victim and rescue them. The fact that law enforcement is still behaving like they're grasping at straws makes me believe they really are dumbfounded or they are building up a case for a murder and have no hopes of recovering her alive.

JMO

 

[turaj]

the ageism comments are really starting to get to me. My 87 year old mother paid her own bills right up until the end!! she made her own decisions including to continue to live in the home that she and my dad purchased years and years ago!!!!! i truly wished she had moved as her home was a 2 story... but that was HER decision! i'm going to assume that NG made her own decisions, too! all MOO

Thank you for saying it....people talk like active seniors need some care. Some of us don't want or need all of that.

 

[allboys]

A sheriff said a car was processed as part of standard investigative practices as officials continue to investigate Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance.

“The car that was at the home, it’s just standard investigative practices. It’s part of the search warrant scene. The court orders, we pull it out of there and do our scene processing with the vehicle,” Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos said at a press conference on Thursday.

Nanos did not state who the car belonged to.

Journalist Ashleigh Banfield said on her podcast Drop Dead Serious that officials towed and impounded the vehicle of Annie Guthrie, Nancy’s daughter, citing a law enforcement source.

Nancy Guthrie update: Sheriff responds after Annie Guthrie car sparks rumor

A sheriff said a car was processed as part of standard practices as officials continue investigating Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance

www.newsweek.com

Also, I've been looking and cannot locate the source yet, but I do remember someone posted that Annie's car (IF it was hers) is an older car (2005 or 2008?) and this person's belief is it's too old for tracking systems.

Thanks for the link. Based on the verbiage in the article, I still think it’s possible a car was processed at a home. Not that it’s even relevant where it was done. More importantly, whose car it was, and as you stated, the age of the car is very important.

 

[Moonchime]

If the kidnapper spent a ransom paid with bitcoin I believe they would likely be caught. Re-sharing this link that I shared earlier:
NBC: Cryptocurrency is not actually perfectly designed for crime. Just ask the crypto cops. Think transactions in cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin are anonymous? Think again.

Thank you so much for responding and for providing this link.

 

[acutename]

I would take the child with & the dogs stay home! It's ten minutes out of my life for my mom who I had a very deep connection with! Actually I'm surprised Nancy Uber'd over. I would have insisted that we pick her up.
To each his own...

some people have a usual Uber driver who drives them frequently- I imagine NG going to the airport, shopping, med appts, hairdresser? and maybe taking an Uber.

 

[LivvyL]

There has to be a reason she was abducted. If it was not ransom, what do you think it was?

I hate to say it but I think it was to remove her body aka evidence.

 

[Magic8Ball]

Thanks for sharing this. So maybe she wasn't at an in-person church service after all. And we've been told that her regular church, which I'm pretty sure is St. Andrew's Presbyterian, does a livestream in which parishioners can't see who else is on (and maybe the church can't either).

So this definitely raises the question of who or what triggered the initial search. I do wonder -- could the church also have had some sort of online Zoom meeting after the livestream where her absence might've been noted? Something like a Bible study group? But that's just speculation on my part.

JMO

The purported call from a fellow churchgoer to the family is starting to bother me more and more.

LE left it off the timeline completely in their most recent press conference.
I don't recall any reference to it being made at all in the presser, either.
Just "11:56 a.m. - Family checks on Nancy."

I find that weird.

I have a TON of questions about this call:

• Does NG normally attend church in person or virtually?
• Does NG attend the first (9:00) service or the second (10:30) service?
• Does NG attend church faithfully every week?
• If she attends in person, does NG normally drive herself to church or get a ride from a fellow churchgoer/family member?
• Did the person who called family to report her absence from church attempt to reach NG by phone/text before reaching out to the family?
• How often did NG and the caller have contact with each other? How close were they?
• Had the person who contacted family to report NG's absence ever done so before, or was this a one-off?
• Prior to the call, had a family member reached out to the church/someone from the church to inquire about whether NG was there?
• Had NG and the church caller had recent contact in which NG had expressed something like "see you in church tomorrow" or "let's do lunch after church Sunday" or what specifically raised such red flags to the caller that they reached out to family?
• What family member did they speak to, how often did they communicate that morning, and what did they say to the caller during any and all conversations?
• What time was/were the call(s) placed to the family?
• What was the caller's location when they made the phone call?
• How did the caller know the family member's phone number?
• Which family member(s) did the church caller speak to?
  

JMO.

 

[turaj]

This is interesting. I didn't realize the news stations got the ransom note first. It makes sense they would go to LE and not publicize it, and perhaps that frustrated the ransom-note writer. Maybe he wanted attention and/or wanted to know the Guthrie family received the note, so he then sent it to TMZ, correctly assuming TMZ would publicize the story.

Interesting.

jmo

we don't know if there was a note left in the house...actually know nothing of what was in that house.

 

[minazoe]

are all of Nancy's pain meds accounted for?

this is a total Jon Benet type of situation. I am thinking there is no kidnapping, something happened with Nancy and they ( whomever they is) came back in the wee hours to clean it up and stage a kidnapping. mOO

 

[Moonchime]

My guess would be that Apple Watch was on her night stand next to the bed. Crazy question but where does every one keep their watch?

I don't own an Apple Watch, but if I did, I would leave it on my nightstand when I went to bed.

 

[Friday Fan]

I’ve attached a photo of NG’s front door, which shows the flowers bordering the walkway. To my eye, JMO, they look like the same plant that’s lying close to the door. It’s a silly detail, but I don’t think it’s insignificant.

Photo from MSN, cropped by me.

The plant is purple trailing lantana. It's a very common plant and will grow where other plants won't grow. (Like Tucson) No one who grows it picks it. It's ubiquitous, utilitarian and it stinks. Doubt if she would pick it. I grow it next to my sidewalk.

 

[Marie A]

Ok now my brain is stuck on could the ransom email have been sent from NG’s computer as someone mentioned up thread? Can you program an email to be sent at a later time. I’m no techie so I don’t know. If so what a clever way to get around your ransom email not being traced back to you. “You won’t get any further communication” because I won’t have access to this computer again type thing. Remember the FBI gal carrying out something large wrapped in brown paper. I have heard speculation it was a computer. Also this could explain why the house was again cordoned off after it was released back to the family. The ransom email could have triggered that if determined to have come from her computer being it was received after the house was released to family. Just another thought.

This is SO CLEVER.
I hope there aren’t any crooks on here reading this and wanting to copycat- but wouldn’t that be amazing if they did send the note from her computer.
That may explain why they are looking at the SIL who I think is 100% innocent and has been very very unfairly named by Ashley Banfield
Just IMHO

 

[pixiepixel]

Targeted Scottsdale home invasion linked to alleged $66M cryptocurrency plot

Has anyone posted this yet? This happened on Jan 31 in Scottsdale, AZ and was posted 2 days ago. Two teens broke into a home by posing as delivery drivers and held a family hostage, demanding millions in bitcoin. While these two teens were caught, police did not believe they were the "masterminds" behind this plot. From the link above:

Investigators believe the teenagers met recently and were extorted by individuals known only as "Red" and "8."

This seems so similar to Nancy's case and the ransom note, in particular. It happened just the day before.

 

[priyaya]

some people have a usual Uber driver who drives them frequently- I imagine NG going to the airport, shopping, med appts, hairdresser? and maybe taking an Uber.

it was also reported that it was a female uber driver, so I could see that being her request