AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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When asked about a search...
Trump said he wasn't talking about a search but a solution.

When asked about a suspect...
Trump said something definitive.

Then he finished...
Calling it a horrible situation.

I'm worried.
I'm encouraged.

If you couple that statement with all the activity we saw today (which is not explained by simply verifying a tip), then we could actually be very close to a conclusion.

If so, I believe that the offender is very close to home, if you know what I mean.

I said this earlier, but there has just got to be footage of a vehicle of interest somewhere. As reporters have noted, they haven't put out an image, a description, nothing.

The less they share, the more they know.

Of course I'm operating from a different point of view than you are. I'm waiting for a killer to be caught, and a body to be found.
 
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I actually think they’ve chosen to keep that quiet now since AB said SIL was a suspect. They said early on that SIL dropped her home
Who is “they”? Early on, the sheriff said “family” dropped her off and at one point said “Annie” and then “family” again. The first mention of SIL dropping her off came from a blog type source. AFAIK, LE never said SIL dropped her off.

I’ve spent the evening going through this thread from the beginning to see who was mentioned (and what details were given) at the press conferences in an effort to try separate official LE info from unofficial media reports. This thread is moving fast, and in that rush of info, some things that have come in media have been credited to have come from LE.
 
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No one really knows. It could have been a coded reference to the kidnappers. Or, one thought was that when filming the movie Silence of the Lambs where that line was from, the FBI was heavily consulted on that script. So maybe advised on the movie to say that, and now advised the Guthrie family to say the same thing. Or did someone use AI to help compose a response and it came up with that because it pulls from scripts, pop culture, written things already out there, etc. SG did seem to look up very specifically when she said that line, in a way that stood out. The sister did a big inhale of breath at that part. (But that was also right before the sister started speaking, so the sister may have just been taking a deep breath to gear up to read her part.)
What is the line that Savannah said? I’m not familiar with the movie but curious.
 
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I think we're dealing with either a really smart criminal, a really dumb basic criminal or someone known to NG that was after money only.
Have we been told anything about personal financial transactions?
Jmho
 
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I'm encouraged.

If you couple that statement with all the activity we saw today (which is not explained by simply verifying a tip), then we could actually be very close to a conclusion.

If so, I believe that the offender is very close to home, if you know what I mean.

I said this earlier, but there has just got to be footage of a vehicle of interest somewhere. As reporters have noted, they haven't put out an image, a description, nothing.

The less they share, the more they know.

Of course I'm operating from a different point of view than you are. I'm waiting for a killer to be caught, and a body to be found.
Yes I think the suspect is close by as well. I also am afraid I agree that there is a killer to be caught and a body to be found:confused: Also "The less they share, the more they know." is why I am not happy with you-now-who blabbing.
 
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right!? i try going to X to see his and other's posts and just get old stuff! i've never been able to figure out X... UGH!
If you don't have an account on X you can still view someone's posts by using a mirror site like this:

Just add 'cancel' in the address: xcancel.com
 
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I want this to be a successful ransom received, victim released but it doesn’t make sense to me. Why wouldn’t they leave a ransom note in the house for her family to find when they check on her? Tell them to not contact the police and pay the ransom and then it’s done with no publicity? The ransom note doesn’t sound like it’s some type of “manifesto” that the writer would want media attention for…if someone is all business, a professional criminal, why would they wait days and then send the ransom to news stations? Is the name of the game in ransom not discretion?
On paper, they can bring in writing analysts, they can examine the paper and where it is sold from and dusted for fingerprints...etc...

Using the computer to send ransom notes is so much hard or nearly impossible to trace.
 
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WOW!! SO much coming out. Can't wait for Tricia's live here in a few.
 
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SBM

Maybe they didn’t leave a written note due to potential fingerprints or DNA?
Could they not control for that though? Wipe it clean? Use a piece of paper in the house and a pen with your non dominant hand and a glove or take it with you? On the other hand, how risky is it to send your note to the global news media and have your crime brought to the forefront of a nation? Seems like the worst case scenario for someone who kidnaps those related to high profile individuals for ransom?
 
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Who is “they”? Early on, the sheriff said “family” dropped her off and at one point said “Annie” and then “family” again. The first mention of SIL dropping her off came from a blog type source. AFAIK, LE never said SIL dropped her off.

I’ve spent the evening going through this thread from the beginning to see who was mentioned (and what details were given) at the press conferences in an effort to try separate official LE info from unofficial media reports. This thread is moving fast, and in that rush of info, some things that have come in media have been credited to have come from LE.
I could be wrong. I was referring to LE. I thought early on I heard from them that SIL dropped her off and then that changed after AB released her “info” and they reverted back to family.
 
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Was Just thinking this exact thing-
3 separate events!?😳 The first ransom note was not delivered until Monday evening I think… after news that she was taken Sunday. Could it be a horrible crime against Nancy occurred, then a separate, opportunistic ransom demand? Then rounding out this mess: the idiot scammer. Poor Nancy. Whatever happened to her is a thing of nightmares.
Could even be a simple crime or horrible accident occurred (w/ NG being disposed of) and a random email "ransom" (with only details of the crime scene used as proof) was a cover-up/distraction. Stranger things have happened.
 
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What if she was transported in it? It's a possibility. Now I am wondering about why the garage door really opened and shut in the course of minutes around 9 ish that night.
Remind me. How did they have the time stamps from the garage door? 'Aybebit can be opened from a phone? Yet she had no security system /subscription cameras?
 
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On paper who can bring in writing analysts, they can examine the paper and where it is sold from...etc...

Using the computer to send ransom notes is so much hard or nearly impossible to trace.
Three days later? And why send to the news media rather than the family or someone related to the family with readily available contact info if they thought they could send electronically without being caught?
 
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Remind me. How did they have the time stamps from the garage door? 'Aybebit can be opened from a phone? Yet she had no security system /subscription cameras?
I haven’t seen anything about how they have those times either.
 
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I'm feeling really hopeful about the cameras taken from the roof today by FBI. Albeit it should've been done 6 days ago.

Anyone know if these are also Google Nest? Or is this a different kind of camera?
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This is the second news outlet saying that a letter was well written/structured. That stands out to me.

Are they playing to the ego of the person who wrote it? Are the letters structured in some sort of particularly striking way?

I just don't think that even a "well-written" ransom note would make me publicly comment on the fact that it was well written. Seems like a given that an adult who planned a kidnapping and led law enforcement on a week long wild goose chase could put together some paragraphs.

Maybe the kidnapper is waxing poetic?

MOO
I’m still catching up but you’d be surprised how few people can write well. I worked with Ph.D.s who would lift sections from Wikipedia.
 
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Remind me. How did they have the time stamps from the garage door? 'Aybebit can be opened from a phone? Yet she had no security system /subscription cameras?
Assume it’s one of those new type of systems that you can open the garage door from a phone app?
 
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I could be wrong. I was referring to LE. I thought early on I heard from them that SIL dropped her off and then that changed after AB released her “info” and they reverted back to family.

Pretty sure articles said the SIL Tommaso dropped off NG alone that night and was the last to have seen her.

 

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