Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Scooby-Doo]

It has been reported that daughter Annie and her family are no longer staying home.

It is unknown where they will be staying. Unsure if Camron had been staying there.

Then we have a post from a journalist stating that three investigators have arrived at Annie's home.

Unknown what they are doing since the family is not there.

Things are moving.

Possibly, the ransom note originated. VPN's are not secure in a homicide case.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

Mark Kelly dropped off donuts at the sheriff's department on Friday, per one of his tweets. Additionally, I believe he has said that Savannah Guthrie called him Sunday on her way to the airport. I'm trying to find that tweet. I follow him so it may be a couple of days old.

Savannahs video plea from her sisters house was after Sunday so she is still in the local area

 

[CrimeDawg123]

It has been reported that daughter Annie and her family are no longer staying home.

It is unknown where they will be staying. Unsure if Camron had been staying there.

Then we have a post from a journalist stating that three investigators have arrived at Annie's home.

Unknown what they are doing since the family is not there.

Things are moving.

Possibly, the ransom note originated. VPN's are not secure in a homicide case.



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"VPN's are not secure in a homicide case."

What do you mean? TIA

 

[LRinCA]

Savannahs video plea from her sisters house was after Sunday so she is still in the local area

My impression is that she called him when she was on her way to Arizona from wherever she currently lives (I assume somewhere in or near NYC).

 

[submarine7]

I don't think this is what happened but it's worth putting out that a few years ago my lyft driver followed me into my house/building unbeknownst to me. I own a tenancy in common with two others in a three story building that has common utility rooms on all floors and the lyft driver hid in this room on and off for hours and entered my house when I left but didn't take anything. My neighbors/co-owners caught him trying to enter their house and immediately watched footage from the cameras and saw the guy creeping around for hours. Police came and arrested him a few blocks away but it was really unexpected and unclear exactly what he wanted. It was also insanely bizarre that he somehow noticed that our security gate didn't fully catch behind me when I entered so he was able to enter after me but he was driving and working so I never considered him a threat. I guess I just think you really never know because the most random things can happen.

 

[katydid23]

I don't disagree entirely, but I'm confident those resources would've dwindled substantially by now (or packed up entirely) if the feds didn't suspect that the kidnapping/ransom demand was legitimate. The FBI only preempts jurisdiction if the kidnapping/ransom demands are real and they are born from an IP that is out of state or out of country. Sure, they can assist local and state LE if asked, but if they eventually concluded that the SIL was the likely perpetrator they'd have probably left by now.

Really? If the FBI figured out that this man abducted and killed his mother-in-law, they would just leave and let the less experienced Sheriff deal with it?

They are not pre-empting jurisdiction because the POTUS asked them to come and help.

I don't think they'd walk away. I think they'd gladly take the perp down as fast as they could. JMO

And I think I even saw Senator Kelly in casual clothes at the Sheriff's department. Yes, it could be that he's just there for a popular case about a popular family in his state of Arizona, but normally these kinds of things get the obligatory "thoughts and prayers" tweet from a handler in DC and then on to the next matter of Senate business.

JMO.

Elections are nearing. Every politician will be doing media interviews about Nancy whenever possible. IMO

 

[Scooby-Doo]

"VPN's are not secure in a homicide case."

What do you mean? TIA

It does not make a user invisible, and it is not a shield against legal or investigative measures.

 

[katydid23]

If the family members who dropped her off turn out to be guilty, it's possible they drove into garage with NG's body in car. Then waited till 1:47am to turn off cameras, and carry her body out front door (gets cut on way out, to explain blood) to new car. Pacemakers will continue to send electrical impulses after the heart stops beating, so I wonder if it's possible the scene of the crime was elsewhere.

WOW. That's a thought....but wait....what about her blood on the front porch?

 

[TheDinks]

Right, which was a 2 minute time span. And that's why I thought they just pulled up and watched her go into the garage.

Two minutes does not seem like enough time to help an 84 yr old with mobility issues, using her walker or cane.

You'd have to pull into the garage, allow time to go open her car door and help her get out of the car and grab her belongings and cane or her walker, and then slowly walk w/her into her home, turn on the lights, and say good night ... then the driver needs to walk back to their car and pull out.

Can that be done in under two minutes time?

Right, but 2 minutes is not much time to get all that done with an 84 yr old with mobility issues, imo. And I took care of my mom for several years and I know that everything takes longer when helping an 84 year old move around, etc



Yes, however the most recent timeline by Nanos said "family members' dropped Nancy off. So I'd think maybe one was driving and the other would be helping her inside if they did help her inside.


Or possibly, the just drove up, used the app to open the garage door, and watched as she entered the doorway into her home...






Per Sheriff Nanos 9:48 p.m. - Family drops Nancy off at home & garage door opens.

9:50 p.m. - Garage door closes.

Sure, well I was only saying if it were me I'd hop out and help the elderly person to the door.

2 mins can take longer to tick by than we might first think... it appears the times are rounded so garage could've closed at 9.50 & 50 secs, making it closer to 3 mins.

When I mentioned the possibility of someone entering the garage in that time, I didn't necessarily mean that the driver was unaware of this...just considering one of the discussed possible theories.

 

[Beachlife926]

Per Sheriff Nanos 9:48 p.m. - Family drops Nancy off at home & garage door opens.

9:50 p.m. - Garage door closes.

I was thinking they could’ve opened the garage, the ladies got out and they closed the garage door with the Daugter exiting a different door near where the car moved to

 

[TheDinks]

WOW. That's a thought....but wait....what about her blood on the front porch?

Well that would be the proverbial red herring - distraction - matching ransom scenario

 

[clearskies1]

I'm not sure if any family car has been searched other than NG's car. At the last press conference the sheriff mentioned a car being pulled from the scene/home. Anyway, they may be looking at any Event Data Recorder in the car(s) to get a sense of the car's location/movement. JMO.

 

[TheDinks]

Everyone be sure to watch Megyn Kelly's Friday, Feb. 6 podcast - Ashley Banfield was her first guest. Some things I didn't know about were mentioned, and they discussed how the sheriff's story/timeline has been allllll over the place. Megyn Kelly Show: New Details About Guthrie Ransom Notes as DEADLINE Passes, and Notable Disappearance Timeline Change

I have it on now. Makes me think... where there's smoke!

 

[Absoluterubbish]

I have it on now. Makes me think... where there's smoke!

What do you have on?

 

[TheDinks]

I'm not sure if any car has been searched other than NG's car. At the last press conference the sheriff mentioned a car being pulled from the scene/home. Anyway, they may be looking at any Event Data Recorder in the car(s) to get a sense of the car's location/movement. JMO.

DBM - I thought I'd backspaced it out and not posted but obvs not!

What do you have on?

lol The Megyn Kelly piece

Well, I think it's the one mentioned in the post I was responding to...

 

[Sessiebo]

If Nancy's car was at her daughters house because maybe from a previous visit earlier that week because she didn't feel well enough to drive back then or she ran out of gas or something and so she left it there so her daughter or SIL brought her home that time maybe it would explain her taking the Uber to that dinner. Idk JMO

 

[TheDinks]

I was thinking they could’ve opened the garage, the ladies got out and they closed the garage door with the Daugter exiting a different door near where the car moved to

Tommaso drove Nancy home per New York Times interview with Sheriff Nanos

"After dinner and games, Mr. Cioni drove Ms. Guthrie home, and the garage door at her home opened at around 9:48 p.m., Sheriff Nanos said. That door closed at 9:50 p.m."

 

[clearskies1]

Brian Entin reported car at Annie's house was taken

Ok. Per this clip I see that AB reports that her source told her that AG's car was taken:

But I haven't caught Brain Entin reporting that.

 

[TheDinks]

Ok. I see that AB reports that her source told her that AG's car was taken.

But I haven't caught Brain Entin reporting that.

I edited and deleted that bit because I thought I'd backspaced it out before making following post.

I didn't have a link and kinda half recall it was AB who said it when talking with BE on a broadcast.

 

[EllaMae]

If Nancy's car was at her daughters house because maybe from a previous visit earlier that week because she didn't feel well enough to drive back then or she ran out of gas or something and so she left it there so her daughter or SIL brought her home that time maybe it would explain her taking the Uber to that dinner. Idk JMO

Most elderly people are not able to see well at night, so they do not drive after dark. That's probably why Nancy did not drive herself to her daughter's house.