• #8,741
Has Nancy's car been worked on recently? If it has, is there a connection and the car needs to be processed for potential evidence? Remembering the unknown DNA handprint that was connected to a sexual assault in AZ in Suzanne Morphew's SUV. Not that I think it's the same person just wondering about her car being serviced or worked on.
 
  • #8,742
Sadly the sheriff was right, they are Google Nest cameras which are designed to rely on cloud services. They can't be fitted with SD cards.
That information was about the front door and inside camera(s), not about the one they just removed yesterday evening. It is quite possible she had more than one brand of camera.
Because I’m not familiar with the Nest brand I did some research and found their outdoor battery/solar powered models record and save 3 hours of event history WITHOUT a subscription to the cloud service. So even if the one removed yesterday was also a Nest camera, it should have 3 hours of recordings on it. Unfortunately by now those recordings will mostly likely only be police activity. 😩
 
  • #8,743
Feb 5 2026
''TUSCON, Ariz. — Neighbors of Nancy Guthrie reported spotting a suspicious white van parked on their street in the days before the 84-year-old vanished.

Guthrie’s neighbor Brett McIntire told The Post on Thursday that he reported the unmarked van to the police, who asked him basic questions about what he observed in the days leading up to the disappearance of Savannah Guthrie’s 84-year-old mother.

“It was somewhere on that street. It was a white van, full-sized, with no printing on the sides. It was parked on the street,” said McIntire, who lives across from Nancy.

“Normally people that are coming to work on your home will have a company vehicle or if they’re independent, something written on it,” the 72-year-old added. ''
So can we stop bashing on Aphrodite Jones now? Good lord.
 
  • #8,744
This is a very good article that details Nancy’s career after her husband died in 1988.

Nancy worked for the U of A from August 1990 until Jan. 1, 2007, first as spokeswoman for University Medical Center and later as associate to the vice president of university advancement.

As part of her duties, she coordinated the Center Stage program, which brought in musicians from the university and beyond to put on monthly lunchtime musical performances at the hospital for staff, patients and visitors. She also served as program director for Medcamp, the U of A’s annual introduction to the medical field for select Arizona high school students.

In recognition of her work, Nancy was elected president of the Southern Arizona chapter of the Public Relations Society of America in 2000.

Retired U of A vice provost Elizabeth Ervin said she was working in marketing and communications for the College of Fine Arts in the 1990s, when Nancy was brought in to help them broaden their reach “beyond our own walls.”

She said Nancy would lead regular committee meetings on how they could improve and expand their messaging at a time when the university’s various departments were doing great things but in an isolated, “siloed” sort of way.

Ervin said she and her colleagues looked forward to those meetings because Nancy kept them upbeat and fun. “She was a good leader,” she said.

You never would have guessed the woman was in the early years of a new career after the death of her husband.

“She was always extremely positive,” Ervin said. “She has an amazingly positive spirit.”

Former reporter Carla McClain said she often interacted with the public relations team at University Medical Center during her career covering health care for the Tucson Citizen and the Arizona Daily Star. She described Nancy as level-headed, accommodating, gracious and “totally upfront.”

She was just great to work with. She understood what my job was as well as her own,” McClain said. “When you encounter good people in life, you know it right away, and Nancy is a very good person through and through. There’s a kindness and an aura around people like that.”

That’s what makes what’s happening now so unfathomable, she said. “This is a woman who I’m certain has no enemies,"

[…]

More at link:
Who is Nancy Guthrie? Inside the life of Savannah Guthrie’s mother and Tucson community leader
 
  • #8,745
Just adding this screengrab from my TV for whatever it’s worth. This shows how close neighbors were, and a general overview of the immediate area around NG’s house and property. I’ve seen many comments elsewhere (not Websleuths) that assume the home is secluded and out in the desert. Local Websleuths have commented that it’s actually quite close to “civilization”. The house seems to enjoy some privacy, but it’s not in the middle of nowhere!
someone posted a map shot of the road closure yesterday and i was shocked at how many homes were in the area! i truly thought that she was like at the base of the catalinas with nothing behind her... just neighbors to the sides and front.
 
  • #8,746
Waldo, how do we know it's 7m? I haven't heard an exact number just several million. Thanks!
good question lmma checking - It popped right out of me so I thought I heard/read it somewhere - did they not specify the amount in cryto?


But the same principle applies to whatever the number is - Yes I would pay the amount if my financial situation allowed. Peace of mind = priceless.

JMO
 
  • #8,747
I’m thinking the same.The garage door may have opened and closed again (maybe around 2 am ?) and they left it out of the timeline.The car may have been returned then if borrowed.
Did I read her phone was in the car? Was her pacemaker syncing to that phone?

There was a report that her phone was in her car. I don't know if this has been verified though.

LE has stated that at 2:28 a.m. on Sunday Nancy's pacemaker app shows disconnection from phone.
 
  • #8,748
If Mrs. Guthrie had not turned up missing maybe but under the circumstances the blood appears to be evidence.

I think the family is wise to not touch the property even after release. For example not cleaning the blood, or staying in the home or even the guest house, not gathering there for any reason, until there is some resolution, imo.

If the blood was from a previous incident considering her home appears to be well kept I think it would have been cleaned up pretty quickly by either Mrs Guthrie, if we are to believe she’s fully able of taking care of her tasks, a house keeper, or her daughter who I presume would have been told I had a bloody spell on the front porch I got it stopped but it’s a mess out there.

The front door is used as evidenced by the package.

Also neighbors or friends stopping by she wouldn’t want blood and lots of it out there since she seemed tidy.

I am realizing that many aren’t as involved with their moms like me; we’ve always hung out a lot.

So maybe the routine was the partner drops her off late in the deep dark night and is on his way without a second thought as many seem to think that not unusual.

It may be they are just not that close or involved in her life or don’t want to start any time consuming habits of assistance.


All imo
I agree if it was my mom and I had SG money id have it guarded, blocked off, protected until crime solved...period. I might want to bring in my own Sherlock Holmes if I had to and would want everything preserved.
 
  • #8,749
I am late to the blood spatter discussion, there are so many posts to keep up with!
So sorry to ask a question that may have already be answered.

So we are looking at a force coming at NG on the porch while she was already bleeding. And she could have been standing or lying on the ground?

Or maybe she coughed or sneezed meaning no blow on the porch?

But she could have been injured in the house and then injured again on the porch?
Where on the body would the blood have been coming from?
being on blood thinners it could have come from the tiniest of cuts!
 
  • #8,750
Just catching up here...Her car is important because its being reported that the watch was found in the car. They are looking for perps DNA when the watch was placed in the car. Hopefully they have found a profile for the perp.
i've not see this about the watch being in the car. can you give us a link or tell us the source so we can read this, too?
 
  • #8,751
i can't read much into the blood on steps at front door given NG's medical condition. She no doubt bleeds very easily and could have been just a small cut or bump.
you can see her bruising here in this photo..common in older people who take blood thinners.
 

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Pretty sure Tricia has mentioned Aphrodite Jones books on the Websleuths YouTube channel. She may have been a guest at one time, but I don't remember for sure.

Aphrodite Jones was a guest of Tricia's on the WS Book Club Zoom meeting.
She wrote the book that was our January Book Club selection.
And she is considered an outstanding crime researcher.
 
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  • #8,754
That damn white van every time…. imo
True. One day, I was walking to my car in my insular little neighborhood, when a pack of local kids came running toward me. "There's a white van going up and down the streets!! " The kids were scared. At that moment, the van came to where I was standing with the kids and stopped. The man was smiling. He knew the kids were scared. I asked him for ID. He was a carpet salesman and had samples in the van. This was about 25 years ago, when people were still buying carpeting. The "white van" has become something of an urban legend.
 
  • #8,755
So can we stop bashing on Aphrodite Jones now? Good lord.
The new info they dropped sans source is that police collected a white van this morning.
 
  • #8,756
LE's TimeLine


Saturday, January 31, 2026

5:32 p.m. - Nancy travels to local family’s home.

9:48 p.m. - Family drops Nancy off at home & garage door opens.

9:50 p.m. - Garage door closes.


Sunday, February 1, 2026

1:47 a.m. - Doorbell camera disconnects.

2:12 a.m. - Software detects person on camera (No video available, no subscription)

2:28 a.m. - Pacemaker app shows disconnection from phone.

11:56 a.m. - Family checks on Nancy.

12:03 p.m. - 911 call to Pima County Sheriff’s Department.

12:15 p.m. - Patrol arrives.
 
  • #8,757
- Investigators have acknowledged and essentially validated/legitimized two ransom letters in this very public case with worldwide interest.
- Family members have put out two pleas to a kidnapper or kidnappers for NG's release on global social media platforms.

IMO, there's no way investigators would do, or allow others to do, either of those things if they thought this was a generally simple crime committed by a family member for whatever emotional motive. Because motive surely wouldn't be financial for a family member who killed her with the intention of getting something from her estate. They'd need a body and death certificate for that, or they'd be waiting many more years than she'd likely have lived if she was left untouched.

Nevermind that a second year law student could probably successfully defend the SIL at this point with as much reasonable doubt as LE has either allowed to happen, or facilitated themselves.

JMO.
 
  • #8,758
I feel like I’m being gaslit at every new development in this case. I can’t imagine how it feels for Nancy’s family. I hope they are at least getting a few extra details than we are, but likely not if they are still investigating any family involvement. That’s still not my #1 theory yet but with each new development, my #1 theory gets diluted in confidence a little bit more.

I so hope there is no family involvement. I just keep telling myself that I never believed Heidi Broussard’s finance had anything to do with her disappearance when basically every piece of evidence pointed to him, so I’m crossing my fingers my intuition is correct in this case too. I don’t know though.
 
  • #8,759
The problem with that is, to me anyway. They can hide behine secure servers to send a message, but once you add attachments like a picture, video, audio, is that as secure? Yes info can be removed from them, but can the FBI recover that info? I don't know.

Same reason someone wouldn't leave a paper note at the house. That just leaves evidence behind.

All JMO
MOO
Yesterday’s new note had no picture or video, only text. It was thought that it’s easier to trace source with images, so maybe that’s why no images. Stays on server longer between multiple relays. Going on memory, what was said.
MOO
 
  • #8,760
I have a Ring Floodlight camera as well as doorbell camera. Mine is above the garage. LE has never confirmed if the "floodlight" they are talking about is a camera or just a motion detecting floodlight. Before I got the Ring cameras, I had a motion detecting floodlight that turned on when someone was in the driveway or walking up to the porch. LE did confirm Nancy had a Google nest doorbell cam and "ADT" but didn't elaborate on the specifics of the latter. ADT is an alarm system, but they also offer inside and outside cameras and partner with Google Nest that can connect with the alarm system
So she did have an alarm system? I was wondering. Maybe she didn’t set it, because the one in our home goes off instantly if door/ window opened even a tiny bit. Also goes off for window breaking. AND calls the monitoring station immediately who then calls the house to confirm. No response from home, police are called. We have a duress code as well, in case intruder forces homeowner to disarm. It pretends to disarm and still calls police. This has been a big question on my mind why no alarm ever sounded or triggered LE. JMO
 
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