AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Bernie54]

I AM REPOSTING my comment and will check back later this afternoon to see your responses, still hoping that LE will have something new to report later today.

SO -- I've waited before making any comment because I felt we were all rushing to judgement. It's a human reaction to pin the crime on one of the nearest relatives, but it can also backfire. I know Savannah personally, and the last thing I want to do is bring more pain to the Guthrie family. Imagine if your mom was abducted and the public was pointing the finger at you. The sting would be that much greater. All that said, as of this AM, they have collected the elusive white van and as you all know, a second note was sent to KOLD yesterday which has been verified as coming from the same encrypted server. This note apparently made contact with the family, responding to the videos made by Savannah and her siblings. We now have President Trump indicating that officials are close to identifying the abductor or abductors. The horrible thing now, of course, is that we have no proof of life. I PRAY that Nancy is alive after being without her meds for 7 days. It is totally possible. Let's remember that. In fact, billboards are now being put up in AZ and surrounding states asking for the public's help. The hard question now is: WOULD YOU HIT SEND to give millions in crypto to this abductor before the deadline on Monday? If no one is caught this weekend, Savannah will be struggling with the possibility that non-payment could mean death for her mom... MY HEART IS BREAKING FOR HER...

It must be a very difficult decision! One can never know what they would do if put in the position the Guthries are in… but if the ask is 7 mil, and I can say ok, it’s one year salary for us- is that worth it? If I have 10-15 more earning years to make it up I think I would take the gamble. If Nancy is returned it is no doubt worth it! Either way, I would trust the authorities will do all they can to apprehend the ransomers.

 

[moonbeams]

Just adding this screengrab from my TV for whatever it’s worth. This shows how close neighbors were, and a general overview of the immediate area around NG’s house and property. I’ve seen many comments elsewhere (not Websleuths) that assume the home is secluded and out in the desert. Local Websleuths have commented that it’s actually quite close to “civilization”. The house seems to enjoy some privacy, but it’s not in the middle of nowhere!

someone posted a map shot of the road closure yesterday and i was shocked at how many homes were in the area! i truly thought that she was like at the base of the catalinas with nothing behind her... just neighbors to the sides and front.

 

[waldojabba]

Waldo, how do we know it's 7m? I haven't heard an exact number just several million. Thanks!

good question lmma checking - It popped right out of me so I thought I heard/read it somewhere - did they not specify the amount in cryto?


But the same principle applies to whatever the number is - Yes I would pay the amount if my financial situation allowed. Peace of mind = priceless.

JMO

 

[flp]

* is there a way to do a Poll here? i am just curious *
Do you think the Son in Law is involved? If you do could you "like" this message, if you don't could you "dislike" this message?

 

[shonyakay]

I’m thinking the same.The garage door may have opened and closed again (maybe around 2 am ?) and they left it out of the timeline.The car may have been returned then if borrowed.
Did I read her phone was in the car? Was her pacemaker syncing to that phone?

There was a report that her phone was in her car. I don't know if this has been verified though.

LE has stated that at 2:28 a.m. on Sunday Nancy's pacemaker app shows disconnection from phone.

 

[birdbox]

If Mrs. Guthrie had not turned up missing maybe but under the circumstances the blood appears to be evidence.

I think the family is wise to not touch the property even after release. For example not cleaning the blood, or staying in the home or even the guest house, not gathering there for any reason, until there is some resolution, imo.

If the blood was from a previous incident considering her home appears to be well kept I think it would have been cleaned up pretty quickly by either Mrs Guthrie, if we are to believe she’s fully able of taking care of her tasks, a house keeper, or her daughter who I presume would have been told I had a bloody spell on the front porch I got it stopped but it’s a mess out there.

The front door is used as evidenced by the package.

Also neighbors or friends stopping by she wouldn’t want blood and lots of it out there since she seemed tidy.

I am realizing that many aren’t as involved with their moms like me; we’ve always hung out a lot.

So maybe the routine was the partner drops her off late in the deep dark night and is on his way without a second thought as many seem to think that not unusual.

It may be they are just not that close or involved in her life or don’t want to start any time consuming habits of assistance.


All imo

I agree if it was my mom and I had SG money id have it guarded, blocked off, protected until crime solved...period. I might want to bring in my own Sherlock Holmes if I had to and would want everything preserved.

 

[moonbeams]

I am late to the blood spatter discussion, there are so many posts to keep up with!
So sorry to ask a question that may have already be answered.

So we are looking at a force coming at NG on the porch while she was already bleeding. And she could have been standing or lying on the ground?

Or maybe she coughed or sneezed meaning no blow on the porch?

But she could have been injured in the house and then injured again on the porch?
Where on the body would the blood have been coming from?

being on blood thinners it could have come from the tiniest of cuts!

 

[moonbeams]

Just catching up here...Her car is important because its being reported that the watch was found in the car. They are looking for perps DNA when the watch was placed in the car. Hopefully they have found a profile for the perp.

i've not see this about the watch being in the car. can you give us a link or tell us the source so we can read this, too?

 

[turaj]

i can't read much into the blood on steps at front door given NG's medical condition. She no doubt bleeds very easily and could have been just a small cut or bump.
you can see her bruising here in this photo..common in older people who take blood thinners.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Pretty sure Tricia has mentioned Aphrodite Jones books on the Websleuths YouTube channel. She may have been a guest at one time, but I don't remember for sure.

Aphrodite Jones was a guest of Tricia's on the WS Book Club Zoom meeting.
She wrote the book that was our January Book Club selection.
And she is considered an outstanding crime researcher.

 

[armchairagatha]

the POTUS is not a reliable source of factual information on many things, IMO

I think he has been briefed by the FBI on the latest and as usual he wants the spotlight on him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is the one who announces any breakthroughs in the case. He has done that in the past with many events, bypassing the traditional route/announcer and stealing their thunder.

 

[Baba O'Riley]

That damn white van every time…. imo

True. One day, I was walking to my car in my insular little neighborhood, when a pack of local kids came running toward me. "There's a white van going up and down the streets!! " The kids were scared. At that moment, the van came to where I was standing with the kids and stopped. The man was smiling. He knew the kids were scared. I asked him for ID. He was a carpet salesman and had samples in the van. This was about 25 years ago, when people were still buying carpeting. The "white van" has become something of an urban legend.

 

[jepop]

So can we stop bashing on Aphrodite Jones now? Good lord.

The new info they dropped sans source is that police collected a white van this morning.

 

[shonyakay]

LE's TimeLine


Saturday, January 31, 2026

5:32 p.m. - Nancy travels to local family’s home.

9:48 p.m. - Family drops Nancy off at home & garage door opens.

9:50 p.m. - Garage door closes.


Sunday, February 1, 2026

1:47 a.m. - Doorbell camera disconnects.

2:12 a.m. - Software detects person on camera (No video available, no subscription)

2:28 a.m. - Pacemaker app shows disconnection from phone.

11:56 a.m. - Family checks on Nancy.

12:03 p.m. - 911 call to Pima County Sheriff’s Department.

12:15 p.m. - Patrol arrives.

 

[Sadi]

Providing information with no link or source. Basically threw in a hand grenade and left. At least Ashleigh Banfield explained her source.

Exactly. Even if this turns out to be true, what’s the purpose of sharing this, but not providing more information on verification? She doesn’t have to necessarily name her source, but could specify more about it. It’s irritating to me because anyone else who does this gets asked to explain and provide their source etc.

 

[SlimPickens]

- Investigators have acknowledged and essentially validated/legitimized two ransom letters in this very public case with worldwide interest.
- Family members have put out two pleas to a kidnapper or kidnappers for NG's release on global social media platforms.

IMO, there's no way investigators would do, or allow others to do, either of those things if they thought this was a generally simple crime committed by a family member for whatever emotional motive. Because motive surely wouldn't be financial for a family member who killed her with the intention of getting something from her estate. They'd need a body and death certificate for that, or they'd be waiting many more years than she'd likely have lived if she was left untouched.

Nevermind that a second year law student could probably successfully defend the SIL at this point with as much reasonable doubt as LE has either allowed to happen, or facilitated themselves.

JMO.

 

[Emerald1328]

I feel like I’m being gaslit at every new development in this case. I can’t imagine how it feels for Nancy’s family. I hope they are at least getting a few extra details than we are, but likely not if they are still investigating any family involvement. That’s still not my #1 theory yet but with each new development, my #1 theory gets diluted in confidence a little bit more.

I so hope there is no family involvement. I just keep telling myself that I never believed Heidi Broussard’s finance had anything to do with her disappearance when basically every piece of evidence pointed to him, so I’m crossing my fingers my intuition is correct in this case too. I don’t know though.

 

[txsleuth70]

So can we stop bashing on Aphrodite Jones now? Good lord.

Doesn't say the van was collected by LE though, does it? Doesn't back up AJ comment.

 

[SaraSmile]

The problem with that is, to me anyway. They can hide behine secure servers to send a message, but once you add attachments like a picture, video, audio, is that as secure? Yes info can be removed from them, but can the FBI recover that info? I don't know.

Same reason someone wouldn't leave a paper note at the house. That just leaves evidence behind.

All JMO

MOO
Yesterday’s new note had no picture or video, only text. It was thought that it’s easier to trace source with images, so maybe that’s why no images. Stays on server longer between multiple relays. Going on memory, what was said.
MOO

 

[bestill]

I AM REPOSTING my comment and will check back later this afternoon to see your responses, still hoping that LE will have something new to report later today.

SO -- I've waited before making any comment because I felt we were all rushing to judgement. It's a human reaction to pin the crime on one of the nearest relatives, but it can also backfire. I know Savannah personally, and the last thing I want to do is bring more pain to the Guthrie family. Imagine if your mom was abducted and the public was pointing the finger at you. The sting would be that much greater. All that said, as of this AM, they have collected the elusive white van and as you all know, a second note was sent to KOLD yesterday which has been verified as coming from the same encrypted server. This note apparently made contact with the family, responding to the videos made by Savannah and her siblings. We now have President Trump indicating that officials are close to identifying the abductor or abductors. The horrible thing now, of course, is that we have no proof of life. I PRAY that Nancy is alive after being without her meds for 7 days. It is totally possible. Let's remember that. In fact, billboards are now being put up in AZ and surrounding states asking for the public's help. The hard question now is: WOULD YOU HIT SEND to give millions in crypto to this abductor before the deadline on Monday? If no one is caught this weekend, Savannah will be struggling with the possibility that non-payment could mean death for her mom... MY HEART IS BREAKING FOR HER...

I think we would all like for the comment about the white van to be verified.

Regarding your question. My financial situation is supremely different the Savannah's, however if I had the means to potentially save my loved ones life I would do everything I can including hitting the send button. In fact, I would have probably sent a deposit by the first deadline. Her mother is in fragile health, Savannah acknowledged that in her video, by stalling sending the money that could signal to the kidnapper that they aren't going to cooperate with the ransom. No judgment just considering all scenarios since you asked. Of course we don't know what the Guthrie's have done about paying the ransom.