AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[jepop]

So can we stop bashing on Aphrodite Jones now? Good lord.

The new info they dropped sans source is that police collected a white van this morning.

 

[shonyakay]

LE's TimeLine


Saturday, January 31, 2026

5:32 p.m. - Nancy travels to local family’s home.

9:48 p.m. - Family drops Nancy off at home & garage door opens.

9:50 p.m. - Garage door closes.


Sunday, February 1, 2026

1:47 a.m. - Doorbell camera disconnects.

2:12 a.m. - Software detects person on camera (No video available, no subscription)

2:28 a.m. - Pacemaker app shows disconnection from phone.

11:56 a.m. - Family checks on Nancy.

12:03 p.m. - 911 call to Pima County Sheriff’s Department.

12:15 p.m. - Patrol arrives.

 

[SlimPickens]

- Investigators have acknowledged and essentially validated/legitimized two ransom letters in this very public case with worldwide interest.
- Family members have put out two pleas to a kidnapper or kidnappers for NG's release on global social media platforms.

IMO, there's no way investigators would do, or allow others to do, either of those things if they thought this was a generally simple crime committed by a family member for whatever emotional motive. Because motive surely wouldn't be financial for a family member who killed her with the intention of getting something from her estate. They'd need a body and death certificate for that, or they'd be waiting many more years than she'd likely have lived if she was left untouched.

Nevermind that a second year law student could probably successfully defend the SIL at this point with as much reasonable doubt as LE has either allowed to happen, or facilitated themselves.

JMO.

 

[Emerald1328]

I feel like I’m being gaslit at every new development in this case. I can’t imagine how it feels for Nancy’s family. I hope they are at least getting a few extra details than we are, but likely not if they are still investigating any family involvement. That’s still not my #1 theory yet but with each new development, my #1 theory gets diluted in confidence a little bit more.

I so hope there is no family involvement. I just keep telling myself that I never believed Heidi Broussard’s finance had anything to do with her disappearance when basically every piece of evidence pointed to him, so I’m crossing my fingers my intuition is correct in this case too. I don’t know though.

 

[SaraSmile]

The problem with that is, to me anyway. They can hide behine secure servers to send a message, but once you add attachments like a picture, video, audio, is that as secure? Yes info can be removed from them, but can the FBI recover that info? I don't know.

Same reason someone wouldn't leave a paper note at the house. That just leaves evidence behind.

All JMO

MOO
Yesterday’s new note had no picture or video, only text. It was thought that it’s easier to trace source with images, so maybe that’s why no images. Stays on server longer between multiple relays. Going on memory, what was said.
MOO

 

[bestill]

I AM REPOSTING my comment and will check back later this afternoon to see your responses, still hoping that LE will have something new to report later today.

SO -- I've waited before making any comment because I felt we were all rushing to judgement. It's a human reaction to pin the crime on one of the nearest relatives, but it can also backfire. I know Savannah personally, and the last thing I want to do is bring more pain to the Guthrie family. Imagine if your mom was abducted and the public was pointing the finger at you. The sting would be that much greater. All that said, as of this AM, they have collected the elusive white van and as you all know, a second note was sent to KOLD yesterday which has been verified as coming from the same encrypted server. This note apparently made contact with the family, responding to the videos made by Savannah and her siblings. We now have President Trump indicating that officials are close to identifying the abductor or abductors. The horrible thing now, of course, is that we have no proof of life. I PRAY that Nancy is alive after being without her meds for 7 days. It is totally possible. Let's remember that. In fact, billboards are now being put up in AZ and surrounding states asking for the public's help. The hard question now is: WOULD YOU HIT SEND to give millions in crypto to this abductor before the deadline on Monday? If no one is caught this weekend, Savannah will be struggling with the possibility that non-payment could mean death for her mom... MY HEART IS BREAKING FOR HER...

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Regarding your question. My financial situation is supremely different the Savannah's, however if I had the means to potentially save my loved ones life I would do everything I can including hitting the send button. In fact, I would have probably sent a deposit by the first deadline. Her mother is in fragile health, Savannah acknowledged that in her video, by stalling sending the money that could signal to the kidnapper that they aren't going to cooperate with the ransom. No judgment just considering all scenarios since you asked. Of course we don't know what the Guthrie's have done about paying the ransom.

 

[zecats]

I have a Ring Floodlight camera as well as doorbell camera. Mine is above the garage. LE has never confirmed if the "floodlight" they are talking about is a camera or just a motion detecting floodlight. Before I got the Ring cameras, I had a motion detecting floodlight that turned on when someone was in the driveway or walking up to the porch. LE did confirm Nancy had a Google nest doorbell cam and "ADT" but didn't elaborate on the specifics of the latter. ADT is an alarm system, but they also offer inside and outside cameras and partner with Google Nest that can connect with the alarm system

So she did have an alarm system? I was wondering. Maybe she didn’t set it, because the one in our home goes off instantly if door/ window opened even a tiny bit. Also goes off for window breaking. AND calls the monitoring station immediately who then calls the house to confirm. No response from home, police are called. We have a duress code as well, in case intruder forces homeowner to disarm. It pretends to disarm and still calls police. This has been a big question on my mind why no alarm ever sounded or triggered LE. JMO

 

[ab01]

As many white vans that are witnessed in crimes, you’d really think we’d have a lot less unsolved crimes in this country. Just look for the white van!

Eta: Yes i’m well aware it’s the most common vehicle known to man. Just a bit of levity

 

[shonyakay]

Will someone type all the details of this case to AI and see what AI thinks??

I think even A.I. would be confused.

 

[moonbeams]

I have been wondering about that. Usually I would think they can not only match the blood to NG but how old is it? From the description of her medical condition and photos (one with bandaid and one with SG and NG in blue top and her left arm in all bruised...a clear sign that she bleeds easily. It could be from another time and just not gotten it cleaned up yet given she mostly uses garage door?

and not cleaned up because i can assume it would be hard for her to bend over to clean it... and i doubt her cleaners, gardeners, etc are there daily.... i'm glad this "when" is getting some traction.... i mentioned it could have been there for a while a few days ago.

 

[Friday Fan]

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I'm reading between the lines.....It's a "What would you do?"
I wouldn't be surprised if she has been in touch with Savannah....
Aphrodite Jones is well known

 

[missy1974]

There was a report that her phone was in her car. I don't know if this has been verified though.

LE has stated that at 2:28 a.m. on Sunday Nancy's pacemaker app shows disconnection from phone.

before this has everyone chasing their tail and we go in circles again.... I think the phone being found in her car is NOT correct.

Her phone was found at her home.

The articles that said 'in the car' said it was said on the Today show on Tuesday (I don't even want to link the articles) I listened to it last night, I heard no reference to 'in her car'.

Link to the today show if anyone wants to take the time to listen to it lol

 

[SaraSmile]

Let’s be fair the president says many things that....show he has no knowledge of what is really going on in a lot of situations. I'll leave it at that. I would not expect him to be a reliable source

Haha, agreed. Just thought it was interesting him chiming in.

 

[birdbox]

Pacemakers only work (broadcast) within range of just a few meters i recall reading. I cant remember the exact distance but they only have a range of i think 6 meters. Can anyone verify the range they cast?

 

[mickey2942]

I wonder if her medication is missing? Did the kidnappers take her meds?

 

[Starkville]

Yeah, but both my 30s daughters know the reference, so do I... TSOTL is more recognizable now than most 90s movies I would think

Teenagers know some of the memes: “it puts the lotion in the basket”, “I’d f*** me”, the lizard tongue thing. TikTok is reviving many old things!

 

[birdbox]

The problem with that is, to me anyway. They can hide behine secure servers to send a message, but once you add attachments like a picture, video, audio, is that as secure? Yes info can be removed from them, but can the FBI recover that info? I don't know.

Same reason someone wouldn't leave a paper note at the house. That just leaves evidence behind.

All JMO

Cyber security PhD student checking in here. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the digital trail (even behind a VPN server) is what might help to take them down. Our federal cyber capabilities are extremely powerful.

 

[zecats]

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed>I question his ability to go to his mother-in-law’s house, stay there for 40 minutes, kidnap and drive her somewhere, return home and sneak back into his home with his wife (Nancy’s daughter) or kids even, not noticing he was missing. Plus he’s been a family member for decades it seems. Suddenly he turns heartless and does this to his wife’s mom? Serious doubts about that. MOO

 

[nhmemorymaker]

i imagine that LE was not happy at all with DJT's comments. Really out of line and self serving in my opinion.

i do agree. He always has to say 'winning' things. I think this is terrible for the family to hear. Even if he has been told some "new details", I am sure the family does not need this increased hope and blabbing from all of us about it.
Just not right, for this poor family.
I feel similarly about AB. I do like her tenaciousness, and clarity at times.... but she is just pushing her credibility (with Meghan), and THAT does not help the family either.

It is just NOT about THEM.

I have been consciencely been trying to put myself in the family's shoes. I just feel such dread and pain.... and some personal guilt over all my blabbing about it.

 

[Sadi]

As many white vans that are witnessed in crimes, you’d really think we’d have a lot less unsolved crimes in this country. Just look for the white van!

Yeah, anytime I see an unmarked white van, I think what’s going on etc, but it seems to be more common than not one is involved