AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

  • #8,841
i have heard nothing about other family in the area. I assume Nancy might have siblings that might still be alive ...other extended family?
she posted a picture of her with grand nieces on her FB one time.
 
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  • #8,842
Yes, even behind a VPN you are only masking your host IP address. Any digital photos, videos,let could create new digital fingerprints. Unless these people were cyber pros like at a nation state level and knew how to scrub everything. Then we are talking about whole new level of cyberware in America. For example North Korea dies a lot of cyberware against America in regardsvof crypto theft against Americans. Billions. Look it up. But I mean only a high level nation state actor could scrub all the bits and pieces and for example even when north korea does steal crypto from an American we still know they did it. And thats behind vpn and everything else. So, if these folks really do have a digital trail, it will take them down trust me.
Thanks for thorough info on this. Makes sense
 
  • #8,843
Did Nancy normally take Ubers to her daughter's house? They don't live too far away. Could have the lights/cameras been damaged between the time she left and time she arrived home? Finally, and while I am sure she is a very independent woman, I wonder why she was actually living alone considering how very frail she was according to her family- not that it makes a difference now but a thought I wonder with this.
With the neighborhood having restrictions on outdoor lighting, is it allowed to keep your front door light on at night?
 
  • #8,844
A lot of older people live alone, she's been independent for many decades since her husband passed. She has a daughter close by.
I was just speaking with my 98 year old relative about how people think everyone over 80 in incapable of caring for themselves. At 98 she wants no one "tucking her in".
 
  • #8,845
Random speculation..
Wondering if NG regularly attends hair or nail salons?
Has a favorite Italian restaurant?
 
  • #8,846
That damn white van every time…. imo
But where is the "windowless" part? I mean usually it is "a white windowless van"
 
  • #8,847
i'd love your opinions on which of these scenarios, A or B is more likely:

A: LE was completely incompetent in releasing the house as a crime scene so quickly, neglecting flood light/camera/vehicle evidence and g-d knows what else

B: LE purposely lifted the crime scene tape early on to see who would taint with possible evidence, take item(s) from the home that had evidential meaning beneath the surface, or replace/leave items with potential importance
 
  • #8,848
Did Nancy normally take Ubers to her daughter's house? They don't live too far away. Could have the lights/cameras been damaged between the time she left and time she arrived home? Finally, and while I am sure she is a very independent woman, I wonder why she was actually living alone considering how very frail she was according to her family- not that it makes a difference now but a thought I wonder with this.
I’ve been wondering the same.Did she have a caretaker staying in the casita? From the drone shot last night I could see what appeared to be blankets strewn over a bench like someone was airing blankets.Is it possible the FBI installed the cameras to watch comings and goings at the casita.Did someone have access to her car or borrow her car? Taking the uber makes me question if her car was unavailable for her.
 
  • #8,849
Yes, even behind a VPN you are only masking your host IP address. Any digital photos, videos,let could create new digital fingerprints. Unless these people were cyber pros like at a nation state level and knew how to scrub everything. Then we are talking about whole new level of cyberware in America. For example North Korea dies a lot of cyberware against America in regardsvof crypto theft against Americans. Billions. Look it up. But I mean only a high level nation state actor could scrub all the bits and pieces and for example even when north korea does steal crypto from an American we still know they did it. And thats behind vpn and everything else. So, if these folks really do have a digital trail, it will take them down trust me.
If I understand correctly, a lot of the 'tracing' problems comes in when they use countries that don't cooperate though, right? That is when they hit the dead ends?

Thanks for the info!!!! I appreciate it!
 
  • #8,850
I think we might be reading too much into the “exact time” her pacemaker disconnected from her phone. My dad has had a pacemaker for 15 years and recently got a new one. His doesn’t continuously sent data to his phone. It transmits it when he is sleeping usually between the hours of 12am-3am. If his phone isn’t near by it will try again a little while later and then eventually send him a notification that it couldn’t connect. Everything I’ve researched online has stated that others are the same way and they aren’t continuously sending data.

I say this because people are making a big deal about the big time lapse between when the camera broke and the pacemaker disconnected, but the pacemaker could have been out of range before 2:28am. I think it’s more likely that the 2:12am detection of a person was them leaving with her.
Thanks for sharing. That is something I hadn’t considered but it is a real possibility that she just simply wasn’t in range for her normal sync and that’s why it shows disconnected at that time because it (pacemaker) wasn’t “looking” for her until the scheduled sync time. (That could very well be around the 2:30am mark every day)
 
  • #8,851
With the neighborhood having restrictions on outdoor lighting, is it allowed to keep your front door light on at night?th
with that light ordinance I am guessing any lighting would be very very subtle and not a major flood light etc. It is very dark out there at night and probably a front door light might not be allowed. I would hate that.
 
  • #8,852
I confess every time I see a white van I wonder if there's someone in it being held against their will.
 
  • #8,853
Maybe the ransomer hasn't provided proof of life because it's not possible.

A ransomer who is willing to abduct a victim might be willing to collect a ransom without ever intending to return the victim.

It's not a movie.

JMO
 
  • #8,854
I wonder if her medication is missing? Did the kidnappers take her meds?
MOO, I don’t think this was revealed by LE. It was discussed, counting pills, see if bottles missing, but nothing confirmed.
 
  • #8,855
I find timelines to be very helpful (especially in a case like this where there are a lot of moving parts and lots of speculation) so I spent a while putting together a timeline (side note: I did not use AI to research or assemble this, just a bunch of my time and brainpower!). If I missed anything, please let me know!

All times are in MST unless otherwise indicated. Sources are listed in parenthesis – when possible, information is from LE, either Sheriff Nanos or FBI Special Agent in Charge Heith Janke.

January 31, 2026

5:32pm - NG takes an Uber to the family’s home (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

9:48pm - NG is dropped off at home based on the garage door opening (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

9:50pm - Garage door closes (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

February 1, 2026

1:47am - Doorbell camera disconnects (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

2:12am - Software detects a "person" on a camera but no video is available. Unable to determine which camera detected the person. Nanos notes that it is possible an animal triggered the alert. (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

2:28am - NG’s pacemaker app shows it was disconnected (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

11:56am - The family checks on NG and discovers her missing (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

12:03 - 911 is called (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

12:15pm - A patrol unit arrives at NG’s home (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

February 2, 2026

6:42pm - Tucson news station KOLD receives a ransom demand via anonymous email with demands that needed to be completed “before 5PM on Thursday the 5th.” (KOLD)

February 3, 2026

Morning - TMZ receives a ransom note demanding “millions” in Bitcoin for NG’s release. (TMZ)

1:49pm - PCSO releases a statement on Facebook stating “we are aware of reports circulating about possible ransom note(s) regarding the investigation into Nancy Guthrie.” (PCSO Facebook)

February 4, 2026

7:59am - PCSO states “at this point, investigators have not identified a suspect or person of interest in this case” and cautions that “the sharing of unverified accusations or false information is irresponsible (PCSO Facebook)

Just after 3pm - A black Suburban pulled up to AG’s home and about 4 or 5 people who appeared to be LE agents got out and went inside (KPNX live broadcast)

Around 3:20pm - Two of the people presumed to be LE exit AG’s home and retrieve supplies from the Suburban, including what appeared to be a tripod, and reenter the home (KPNX live broadcast)

Approx. 4-6pm - LE conducts a search at NG’s home because, according to Nanos, “the FBI wanted to take a look” (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser). The search lasts roughly 2 hours and dog was brought in during the search (Brian Entin; ABC12 reporter Ford Hatchett)

6:22pm - The Guthrie family releases a video statement. SG acknowledges the family is aware of the ransom demands and says “we need to know that she is alive and that you have her. We want to hear from you, and we are ready to listen. Please, reach out to us.” (SG’s Instagram)

February 5, 2026

Approx. 1:30pm - The FBI announces a $50,000 reward for information leading to the recovery of NG or the arrest and conviction of anyone involved in her disappearance (Janke, Feb. 5 presser)

5pm (timezone not specified) - First deadline in the ransom demand (KOLD)

5:05pm - CG releases a video message on SG’s Instagram addressing NG’s abductor and says “we need you to reach out and we need a way to communicate with you so we can move forward.” (SG’s Instagram)

February 6, 2025

11:45am - KOLD receives a new message via email from NG’s alleged abductor. The note was sent the same way as the previous note (reporter Briana Whitney)

3:01pm - KOLD publicly announces the receipt of the note from NG’s alleged abductor. (reporter Mary Coleman)

3:05pm - PCSO releases a statement stating that “the FBI and Pima County Sheriff’s Department are aware of a new message regarding Nancy Guthrie.” (PCSO)

3:35pm - Police close down a large section of NG’s street for “investigative purposes” (reporter Michael Ruiz; reporter Brian Entin)

Approx. 5:45pm - LE removes what appears to be a camera from the roof of the casita and NG’s house (reporter Michael Ruiz)

7:46pm - A tow truck arrives at NG’s house and removes a blue Subaru from the garage (reporter Brian Entin)

9:02pm - A forensics vehicle, a white Toyota Camry, and an unmarked white Chevy SUV arrive at AG’s house. People got out of the forensics vehicle and the Camry and walked around to the side of the house and left after about 5 minutes (reporter Brian Entin, reporter Michael Ruiz).

February 9, 2026

5pm (timezone not specified) - Second deadline in the ransom demand (KOLD)

Unable to place on timeline

KGUN also received a ransom demand, but the date it was received has not been released (KGUN9)

LE visited the Circle K on Oracle Road in Tucson after “receiving a tip regarding a vehicle of interest, and our team has provided them access to the store’s surveillance video.” (NBC News)
 
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i don't understand where people are getting that NG was worth millions? yes her home was valued at a million... but it wasn't purchased at that....
If your home is paid for, you have little to no debt, it is worth 1.2 million. You have $500k in CDs, you have a life insurance policy for $1 million, you are worth over 2 million.
 
  • #8,857
He knows nothing about this case, IMO. He just rambled to hear himself talk.
T actually spoke to Savannah Wednesday and he gave her the fbi/doj resources etc - so in this case I suspect he knows quite a bit - .


"In a post on Truth Social late Wednesday, Trump said: "I spoke with Savannah Guthrie, and let her know that I am directing ALL Federal Law Enforcement to be at the family’s, and Local Law Enforcement’s, complete disposal, IMMEDIATELY."

"We are deploying all resources to get her mother home safely," the president added. "The prayers of our Nation are with her and her family. GOD BLESS AND PROTECT NANCY!"

jmo
 
  • #8,858
with that light ordinance I am guessing any lighting would be very very subtle and not a major flood light etc. It is very dark out there at night and probably a front door light might not be allowed. I would hate that.

someone who lives in the area mentioned that the lights have to be pointed down, so i think you could still have them, but the area they cover would likely be smaller..
 
  • #8,859
before this has everyone chasing their tail and we go in circles again.... I think the phone being found in her car is NOT correct.

Her phone was found at her home.

The articles that said 'in the car' said it was said on the Today show on Tuesday (I don't even want to link the articles) I listened to it last night, I heard no reference to 'in her car'.

Link to the today show if anyone wants to take the time to listen to it lol


Thanks for the clarification. I am pretty sure someone posted one article where it mentioned the phone in the car several pages back. I was aware and stated that it hadn't been verified though.
 
  • #8,860
If this question is not allowed please feel free to delete it. If this band member having a questionable personality is true could he have been waiting for her when she was dropped off? People were talking about this band member the other day and said someone claimed a few members of this band need looked at. Did they mean an actual band or a band as in group of friends who hang out. When I use the word band I always mean a musical act but some people still use it as "band of brothers"
point here is as the circle widens those with close working relationships with family need to be looked at and discuss where they were that night. Normal police work.
 

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