AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[CSIDreamer]

she is verified

As an insider on the Guthrie case?

 

[LAborn]

I would never pay the ransom without proof of life. Esp. In a case this high-profile. We already found one scammer. And, without proof of life, I don’t have alot of confidence that an 84 year old who lost blood and hasn’t had her meds in a week is alive.

I think she could still be alive, but agree not to entertain paying ransom without proof.

 

[emigrate]

i imagine that LE was not happy at all with DJT's comments. Really out of line and self serving in my opinion.

I used to love the guy when he was on tv and not being a guy talking about women in a sexual manner. I used to think he was hilarious but when the gross talk about women started I dropped him like a hot potato. Now he seems to have a God complex and has to comment on EVERYTHING with authority like he runs everything even down to this situation, he is an authority on it, knows everything. It speaks volumes, also why I don't get into political discussions. While many of us find it pointless him talking and maybe ruining things he will have people that think he is, as my great grandma used to say, the "bees knees" and a great President to be so on top of everything. He may be self serving in this just to bury the post that was racist he made about the Obamas???

 

[moonbeams]

If Mrs. Guthrie had not turned up missing maybe but under the circumstances the blood appears to be evidence.

I think the family is wise to not touch the property even after release. For example not cleaning the blood, or staying in the home or even the guest house, not gathering there for any reason, until there is some resolution, imo.

If the blood was from a previous incident considering her home appears to be well kept I think it would have been cleaned up pretty quickly by either Mrs Guthrie, if we are to believe she’s fully able of taking care of her tasks, a house keeper, or her daughter who I presume would have been told I had a bloody spell on the front porch I got it stopped but it’s a mess out there.

The front door is used as evidenced by the package.

Also neighbors or friends stopping by she wouldn’t want blood and lots of it out there since she seemed tidy.

I am realizing that many aren’t as involved with their moms like me; we’ve always hung out a lot.

So maybe the routine was the partner drops her off late in the deep dark night and is on his way without a second thought as many seem to think that not unusual.

It may be they are just not that close or involved in her life or don’t want to start any time consuming habits of assistance.


All imo

that doesn't mean NG used that door other than to retrieve packages..... IMO

 

[Pharmasgirl]

I agree, just surprised, He is chiming in on details. Wonder what the FBI think, I’m sure they have told him what not to say!
Yes, he loves the attention and spotlight!

And he should not be looked at as a RELIABLE source here one would think...

 

[SaraSmile]

again, he gives incorrect info frequently on many topics. He cannot be verified as an accurate source IMO.

True, he is not a verified source, good point.

 

[SlimPickens]

He also knew with 100% certainty who he was going after. That is not the case here. Anyway, I’m moving on and ignoring him as usual. Of course he would take credit if NG is found safe. IMHO

Fair enough, I just hope any bloviating is true in this instance, because that would mean they are close to getting to the bottom of this awful situation.

JMO.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Maybe the ransomer hasn't provided proof of life because it's not possible.

A ransomer who is willing to abduct a victim might be willing to collect a ransom without ever intending to return the victim.

It's not a movie.

JMO

Speaking of scruples, I dont see a kidnapper running errands to pick up prescriptions or let someone pack a bag with them. Your post reminded me of this thought I've been having. JMO

 

[thefragile7393]

This case has so many twists and turns —and I just have to say that I found the repost and the question a little weird (sorry AJ). Why check back later? Could this be a veiled communication. For someone? Prob reading more onto the post —and repost (which is what caught my eye) but why ask that question twice and then come back later? What are you waiting to see?

I think some people are picking apart semantics here.

 

[Sadi]

It does make me wonder if the FBI is interrogating family members right now, hoping to get specific information as to where she is. Of course they'd have to get a confession to get that location, and who wants to admit that while your whole family's around? If they arrest immediately, the perps will lawyer up and they will be no closer to finding Nancy (who is likely deceased at this point).

Curious about interviewing the family members, wouldn’t they only interview them at the house? Or police station? Is it because of the high profile case it would be in the house to not give any news outlets tips about what’s going on?

 

[Nikynoo]

As a crime writer it says. I was suggesting insider because she says she knows SG personally. Does verification as a crime writer pass as an approved source for what she said about white van? Idk just would like to know if the info is accurate.

IMO no. They are not providing inside information relating to their verified status.

 

[thefragile7393]

IMO This is not a political forum/thread. Please stop all comments for and against DJT. Please report me. May be a moderator will comment on whatever Websleuths position is.

I think pointing out that he may or may not be a reliable source of information isn't poltics. He put the words out there, so they can be discussed. It has nothing to do with politics but whether they are a reliable source of information IMO

 

[PipeyRella]

I think we might be reading too much into the “exact time” her pacemaker disconnected from her phone. My dad has had a pacemaker for 15 years and recently got a new one. His doesn’t continuously sent data to his phone. It transmits it when he is sleeping usually between the hours of 12am-3am. If his phone isn’t near by it will try again a little while later and then eventually send him a notification that it couldn’t connect. Everything I’ve researched online has stated that others are the same way and they aren’t continuously sending data.

I say this because people are making a big deal about the big time lapse between when the camera broke and the pacemaker disconnected, but the pacemaker could have been out of range before 2:28am. I think it’s more likely that the 2:12am detection of a person was them leaving with her.

If the pacemaker was out of range before 2:28am, the pacemaker would not have been able to sync with the phone at 2:28am unless it came back in to range to sync. She had to be in proximity of the phone in order for the data to be transmitted so she had to be near her phone at 2:28am but this does not mean she was in her home, just near her phone.

I'm sure the investigators know, but I'd be curious to see what time her pacemaker usually syncs with her phone every night. Knowing minimal about pacemakers, from what I've read, if the auto-sync option is on it usually syncs in the same window every night (~5-15 minute range). I wonder if this is her usual time range for it to sync. If so, does the abductor know this and planned it this way? Or was it just a coincidence she was still at the home for her pacemaker to sync for the night, because it definitely helps the detectives narrow down a timeline.

 

[BigCityAccountant1]

THE Aphrodite Jones! WOW! Nice to have yo uhere.
The problem is the President says....many things. He has been known to be in error about a lot of situations and speaks "out of turn," IMO.

However as regards to everything else, your points are spot on. Thank you for all of this

Welcome Aphrodite!

 

[outloudthink]

The neighbors 44 year old son has a criminal record that includes Criminal Trespass and Stalking. And, ironically, owns or previously owned a roofing company.

 

[Baba O'Riley]

If this question is not allowed please feel free to delete it. If this band member having a questionable personality is true could he have been waiting for her when she was dropped off? People were talking about this band member the other day and said someone claimed a few members of this band need looked at. Did they mean an actual band or a band as in group of friends who hang out. When I use the word band I always mean a musical act but some people still use it as "band of brothers"

SIl is a member of a local musical band from what I read.

 

[birdbox]

I think we might be reading too much into the “exact time” her pacemaker disconnected from her phone. My dad has had a pacemaker for 15 years and recently got a new one. His doesn’t continuously sent data to his phone. It transmits it when he is sleeping usually between the hours of 12am-3am. If his phone isn’t near by it will try again a little while later and then eventually send him a notification that it couldn’t connect. Everything I’ve researched online has stated that others are the same way and they aren’t continuously sending data.

I say this because people are making a big deal about the big time lapse between when the camera broke and the pacemaker disconnected, but the pacemaker could have been out of range before 2:28am. I think it’s more likely that the 2:12am detection of a person was them leaving with her.

Im mentioning it from a very technical standpoint because if the attacker knew the pacemakers had a range of contact with her phone, they may have wanted the phone near her while they were moving about the home, possibly placing it in her car as a last thing to do before loading her up. Another technical detail I'll mention since I am going down the rabbit hole is pacemakers ping every second basically. The readon is so at the Dr's office they can connect up to install updates. Pacemakers are actually easy to hack and we studied them in my PhD program in regards to cyber security. I won't go in more detail but as part of a cyber security investigation id want to know every detail. And also if she steps within 7 meters of any hospital or dr office it would pick up her device mac address. So, if it were LE, id get her device mac address and let hospitals and dr offices know to see if they have equipment to pick up her device if it came in range. Far fetched. Yes. But believe it or not, its an actual topic that ive studied in a cyber war class.

 

[Sadi]

Maybe the ransomer hasn't provided proof of life because it's not possible.

A ransomer who is willing to abduct a victim might be willing to collect a ransom without ever intending to return the victim.

It's not a movie.

JMO

I believe you’re on target again.

 

[MommaV]

I just don't see NG walking into her home and getting inside in the matter of two minutes unless she was using a "hurry cane," and Tommaso dropped her off and peeled wheels out of there...

IOW, this just doesn't make common sense to me. Anyone--unless you hate your MIL--is respectful and helpful. You are going to stop the car, open the garage door, walk her in at her pace, open the other door leading to the home (which might require a key??), go inside with her, ask her if there is anything that you can do for her before you leave...All that requires more than two minutes.

JMO.

He may have walked her in the home through the garage, but left out the front door.

 

[moonbeams]

the van, has been reported

but has not been shown to have been "collected" in any MSM or X or other sources....