AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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question: are you saying you live in the neighborhood and there is a HOA. I got the vibe that this is not an official association but group of neighbors. that organize things but not the kind you pay dues etc. Correct me if that is wrong. As mentioned it is Pima county with the rules about lighting.
 
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So we either have:

1) someone in the family, most likely SIL and/or Annie motivated by some kind of financial gain that they hoped to gain from her passing, and the ransom stuff is just someone trying to capitalize on the situation. Or I suppose the responsible family member(s) could have orchestrated the ransom hoax as a distraction.

2) an actual professional kidnapper who has experience doing this and saw NG as a good target (at least in part because SG wealth).

3) someone not in the inner circle, but someone who is familiar with NG and her house and was in her extended circle somehow. Either a lawn guy, an electrician, a pool guy, etc. that knew who she was, knew who her daughter was, and hatched some half baked plan to either rob her, kidnap her, murder her, etc and then sloppily executed it. The motive here would be money as well in the form of ransom.

4) some deranged politically motivated person who disagreed with SG or felt slighted by SG somehow and was interpreting her on TV from his basement and decided to lash out in this way. Similar to a politically motivated mass shooter or incel type.

5) I hesitate to even write this, but a sexually motivated rapist, murderer, kidnapper who saw her, stalker her and executed a plan on her that night. You wouldn’t think that this would happen to an 84 yo but sadly it does.

Taking everything we know currently into account, I would rank them 1,3,4,2,5.

What say you, WS?
 
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question: are you saying you live in the neighborhood and there is a HOA. I got the vibe that this is not an official association but group of neighbors. that organize things but not the kind you pay dues etc. Correct me if that is wrong. As mentioned it is Pima county with the rules about lighting.
Glad you brought this up because I just checked a map and NG’s house is about 30 ft on the other side of the boundary for our HOA. The situation for her house may be different.
 
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Well, we are using an old photo that was taken ~four days ago. It was taken after LE released the home as a crime scene back to the family. (This earlier photo does not show a package on the porch.) As to why police didn’t take them into evidence… we don’t know they didn’t. Are the still on the porch? I’m guessing the uprooted plants were at least photographed, as the blood droplets were tested and did receive attention from investigators.

I beg to respectfully differ that they are sagebrush. Other Websleuths have identified the plant as lantana. There are live lantana plants just a couple of feet away from the doormat, edging the walkway. The plant pieces on the doormat are dried up, but you can still see the flowers on the stems.

Yeah that is clearly Lantana, a plant that does well in the hot dry climate, especially if afforded shade for part of the day.

It is clearly not Sagebrush, nor is it the Russian Thistle that is better known as Tumbleweed.
 
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Interesting "between the two Guthrie homes". Why not "around Nancy's home" unless both homes are involved in some way? MOO

Has the description been released?
Nothing yet. They clearly don't want us to know.
 
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I think the video contained in this link is where that idea of alive came from. I just interpret it differently.
He didn’t say that. He says…. She’s here, we’re gonna find her. I don’t think that means the same thing.

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AZ - Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026
 
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Excellent! But where is that? Does not look like a convenience store. Sinks look like restaurant kitchen ones, but that does not look like a food establishment.
Looks like a convenience store with a kitchen, at least thats what it says on their monitor. Probably a store with a fast food place in it
 

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If the SIL isn’t involved, AB will be in a boatload of trouble, career wise, reputation and financially. She would have to believe without any doubt, what she was told is the absolute truth. She cannot backpedal because of the harm caused emotionally, financially, mentally, physically, spiritually. Her own security could be compromised.
 
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The neighbors 44 year old son has a criminal record that includes Criminal Trespass and Stalking. And, ironically, owns or previously owned a roofing company.

This is very very interesting.....
Do we know WHICH neighbor was discussing the newish look to Nancy's roof? yesterday????
I wonder if it was a totally different neighbor or the same family (right across the street) who own the roofing company.

moo.
 
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I’ve viewed the doormat stems as either debris caused by LE and K9 foot traffic entering an exiting the property or a blowing wind/breeze that pushed them up to the door entrance. I imagine NG has weekly landscaping service that at the very least includes a “mow and blow”?
Based on her landscape, I don't know if it was weekly. It looks like she has astroturf in the back. Hence there is no mowing. We don't mow very often at our house. We have turf on the side, but it grows really slow because we're always under water restrictions. We do everything ourselves, which is a hedge trimmer no more than twice a year. (We cut our mowing to once a month due to a three year drought) However, some xeriscapes are trimmed more frequently to keep them looky tidy. The fact that her lantana is short indicates that she may have quarterly timming. But I think weekly would really be too much for a natural style landscape.
 
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If the SIL isn’t involved, AB will be in a boatload of trouble, career wise, reputation and financially. She would have to believe without any doubt, what she was told is the absolute truth. She cannot backpedal because of the harm caused emotionally, financially, mentally, physically, spiritually. Her own security could be compromised.


I'm sorry, someone told her that and she reported it , because she is very scoop motivated and an inquisitive journalist.
so she reported something from a "reliable " source. This is absolutely NOT the end of her career and also it is obvious in an investigation like this that the last person to see the victim alive is often the first suspect to be looked at followed by family, husbands etc...you may not like a sensationalist approach to journalism but..

she did nothing wrong.

mOO
 
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If the SIL isn’t involved, AB will be in a boatload of trouble, career wise, reputation and financially. She would have to believe without any doubt, what she was told is the absolute truth. She cannot backpedal because of the harm caused emotionally, financially, mentally, physically, spiritually. Her own security could be compromised.
It will be SIL, that's clear to see at this point due to the link between both properties. AB was right on the money
 
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If the SIL isn’t involved, AB will be in a boatload of trouble, career wise, reputation and financially. She would have to believe without any doubt, what she was told is the absolute truth. She cannot backpedal because of the harm caused emotionally, financially, mentally, physically, spiritually. Her own security could be compromised.
She trusts her sources........personally, I trust evidence, not theories or speculation.
 
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Looks like a convenience store with a kitchen, at least thats what it says on their monitor. Probably a store with a fast food place in it
Can’t say if it’s the same place but there is a convenience store on oracle road where there is a gas station that also has a drive thru Dairy Queen and maybe a domino’s as well, can’t recall offhand.
 
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So we either have:

1) someone in the family, most likely SIL and/or Annie motivated by some kind of financial gain that they hoped to gain from her passing, and the ransom stuff is just someone trying to capitalize on the situation. Or I suppose the responsible family member(s) could have orchestrated the ransom hoax as a distraction.

2) an actual professional kidnapper who has experience doing this and saw NG as a good target (at least in part because SG wealth).

3) someone not in the inner circle, but someone who is familiar with NG and her house and was in her extended circle somehow. Either a lawn guy, an electrician, a pool guy, etc. that knew who she was, knew who her daughter was, and hatched some half baked plan to either rob her, kidnap her, murder her, etc and then sloppily executed it. The motive here would be money as well in the form of ransom.

4) some deranged politically motivated person who disagreed with SG or felt slighted by SG somehow and was interpreting her on TV from his basement and decided to lash out in this way. Similar to a politically motivated mass shooter or incel type.

5) I hesitate to even write this, but a sexually motivated rapist, murderer, kidnapper who saw her, stalker her and executed a plan on her that night. You wouldn’t think that this would happen to an 84 yo but sadly it does.

Taking everything we know currently into account, I would rank them 1,3,4,2,5.

What say you, WS?

Im beginning to think 4
 

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