AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Herat]

Interesting "between the two Guthrie homes". Why not "around Nancy's home" unless both homes are involved in some way? MOO

Has the description been released?

Or NG's home and the Circle K, where there seems to be a possible vehicle siting. The mention of between NG and AG's home makes it a very pointed search with obvious implications.

 

[bmacmillan1]

So we either have:

1) someone in the family, most likely SIL and/or Annie motivated by some kind of financial gain that they hoped to gain from her passing, and the ransom stuff is just someone trying to capitalize on the situation. Or I suppose the responsible family member(s) could have orchestrated the ransom hoax as a distraction.

2) an actual professional kidnapper who has experience doing this and saw NG as a good target (at least in part because SG wealth).

3) someone not in the inner circle, but someone who is familiar with NG and her house and was in her extended circle somehow. Either a lawn guy, an electrician, a pool guy, etc. that knew who she was, knew who her daughter was, and hatched some half baked plan to either rob her, kidnap her, murder her, etc and then sloppily executed it. The motive here would be money as well in the form of ransom.

4) some deranged politically motivated person who disagreed with SG or felt slighted by SG somehow and was interpreting her on TV from his basement and decided to lash out in this way. Similar to a politically motivated mass shooter or incel type.

5) I hesitate to even write this, but a sexually motivated rapist, murderer, kidnapper who saw her, stalker her and executed a plan on her that night. You wouldn’t think that this would happen to an 84 yo but sadly it does.

Taking everything we know currently into account, I would rank them 1,3,4,2,5.

What say you, WS?

Would like to hear more about the 44 year old neighbour with the roofing company and a criminal record that a poster mentioned earlier

 

[SMK777]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020205198866837889

Thanks for this @MassGuy .
This is the first real development I have seen in awhile.

 

[mikeshanty]

I've watched a few YouTube videos today with commentators who say that they are friends with SG and then leaking information about the investigation, potentially involving her family members.

I don't think that would sit well with me if I were SG. But I guess it's very difficult when personal relationships intersect with professional roles.

I think MK is the worst offender. She has been covering this story relentlessly

I'm sorry, someone told her that and she reported it , because she is very scoop motivated and an inquisitive journalist.
so she reported something from a "reliable " source. This is absolutely NOT the end of her career and also it is obvious in an investigation like this that the last person to see the victim alive is often the first suspect to be looked at followed by family, husbands etc...you may not like a sensationalist approach to journalism but..

she did nothing wrong.

mOO

I'd add that it is possible AB is completely correct, but the "noise" and stories about the Guthrie family considering legal action is because she has prejudiced the live investigation by leaking this information.

 

[txsleuth70]

I'm sorry, someone told her that and she reported it , because she is very scoop motivated and an inquisitive journalist.
so she reported something from a "reliable " source. This is absolutely NOT the end of her career and also it is obvious in an investigation like this that the last person to see the victim alive is often the first suspect to be looked at followed by family, husbands etc...you may not like a sensationalist approach to journalism but..

she did nothing wrong.

mOO

Agreed. She's 40 years into her career. She's not going to do anything boneheaded now. Not her first rodeo.

 

[Friday Fan]

So we either have:

1) someone in the family, most likely SIL and/or Annie motivated by some kind of financial gain that they hoped to gain from her passing, and the ransom stuff is just someone trying to capitalize on the situation. Or I suppose the responsible family member(s) could have orchestrated the ransom hoax as a distraction.

2) an actual professional kidnapper who has experience doing this and saw NG as a good target (at least in part because SG wealth).

3) someone not in the inner circle, but someone who is familiar with NG and her house and was in her extended circle somehow. Either a lawn guy, an electrician, a pool guy, etc. that knew who she was, knew who her daughter was, and hatched some half baked plan to either rob her, kidnap her, murder her, etc and then sloppily executed it. The motive here would be money as well in the form of ransom.

4) some deranged politically motivated person who disagreed with SG or felt slighted by SG somehow and was interpreting her on TV from his basement and decided to lash out in this way. Similar to a politically motivated mass shooter or incel type.

5) I hesitate to even write this, but a sexually motivated rapist, murderer, kidnapper who saw her, stalker her and executed a plan on her that night. You wouldn’t think that this would happen to an 84 yo but sadly it does.

Taking everything we know currently into account, I would rank them 1,3,4,2,5.

What say you, WS?

I go with 3 and 1. It was someone who knew her.

 

[nycpizzaparty]

It will be SIL, that's clear to see at this point due to the link between both properties. AB was right on the money

SIL is sister-in-law. BIL is brother-in-law.

What SIL are people referring to? AG is SG's sister, not sister-in-law.

 

[BUF]

Wow. I am wondering if the camera they recently found on the guest house captured an unidentified male. There was talk of NG's back door being opened.

This is assuming that was a camera and had recoverable footage on it.

That back door also looks like where that flood light was half torn off/destroyed

 

[Inthedetails]

It will be SIL, that's clear to see at this point due to the link between both properties. AB was right on the money

Even if AB's reporting turns out to be true, was it her place to report it while the investigation is ongoing and no POI has been named? I think THAT is the issue.

Reporters routinely have info that they hold without disclosing.

jmo

 

[Cardgame]

Only to be in range of the device, which is 6 or 7 meters. And from a cyber security standpoint that we studied in cyber warfare, you could download a virus on your computer or phone that could send a remote command to the device that could cause it to stop. We studied this in regards to covering all devices that could be hacked in our cyber kinetic portion of class. I don't think it pertains to her at all, just giving info on how it works. If a bad actor of an enemy governement wanted to they could hack it if within range or by a remote virus. Its a national security issue we study because we look at all sorts of ways our government leaders could be targeted in cyber realm. Hacking and malfunctioning a pacemaker was studied in lab settings and thry are vulnerable devices due to design on zero real security built in. Why? Because many manufacturers aren't thinking about it, because why would they. Thats what we do. We think about ways bad guys could be bad guys in the cyber realm and we write reports on it. You're welcome for that rabbit hole. Haha

Thank you This is both fascinating and utterly terrifying.

Without wishing to send you down another hole...

Please could you explain to me how the person who sent the ransom note could be hiding their source from FBI?

I keep hearing VPN but I myself have a VPN. Surely it can't be as simple as that?

 

[sprightly]

SIL is sister-in-law. BIL is brother-in-law.

What SIL are people referring to? AG is SG's sister, not sister-in-law.

SON-in-law. Nancy's.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Looks like a convenience store with a kitchen, at least thats what it says on their monitor. Probably a store with a fast food place in it

Maybe it's a Circle K. They're mini malls nowadays. JMO

 

[Izzylizzy]

O'Shay has negotiated with hostages.

'Nancy Guthrie's captors not playing by rules: Ex-FBI agent | Elizabeth Vargas Reports'

 

[nycpizzaparty]

SON-in-law. Nancy's.

I need care. Sorry!

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020210223689130012

 

[sprightly]

I need care. Sorry!

No worries! Just clarifying!

 

[academyrd]

I'm sorry, someone told her that and she reported it , because she is very scoop motivated and an inquisitive journalist.
so she reported something from a "reliable " source. This is absolutely NOT the end of her career and also it is obvious in an investigation like this that the last person to see the victim alive is often the first suspect to be looked at followed by family, husbands etc...you may not like a sensationalist approach to journalism but..

she did nothing wrong.

mOO

Ehhhh. She said herself “I’ve been at this for 38 years do you think I would throw it away for one story?”

She knows the stakes here. She is very much on an island right now, no one has joined her, and she has not budged over 3 days she continues to double down. If she’s right she deserves credit and if she’s wrong she deserved to get cooked and own it. It will be very damning to her reputation if she’s wrong, as it should be. The stakes are high and they should be, millions of people are paying attention to this. SIL would probably sue her too if he was never truly a suspect.

 

[Alkali13]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020205198866837889

Unidentified to us or unidentified to them?

 

[outloudthink]

This is very very interesting.....
Do we know WHICH neighbor was discussing the newish look to Nancy's roof? yesterday????
I wonder if it was a totally different neighbor or the same family (right across the street) who own the roofing company.

moo.

Or…the name of the company that did the work

 

[Sadi]

I theorized that Nancy could have been transported in her vehicle (alive or deceased).

However, we only know of the one opening and shutting of the garage that evening around 10 p.m. when the SIL allegedly dropped Nancy off which leads credence to that story.

If there wasn't more opening/shutting of the garage there is no way that car could have gotten back in to the garage, unless it was taken out at 9:48 p.m. and not returned until the next morning before LE was contacted. And that would be HIGHLY suspicious.

I am still on the fence.

Could be it was opened and closed at other times, but hasn’t been shared publicly.