AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[jillybean51]

strange. I went to the link and didn't see a comment made by anyone with that name, must be getting filtered out for me. Thanks for explaining!

The comment is quite a ways down.

 

[Alkali13]

Is the photo implying the guy in line onscreen is of interest? An older man wearing a work lanyard with an ID?

No, those are LE.

 

[Sadi]

No worries, lol, they'll be back. JMO

My reason for asking is because if they find a reason to return again, another proof of reason why they need to return, judge to sign off on search warrant etc. which will be a delay. I hope this is a better explanation of why I am asking.

 

[thefragile7393]

Is this stating one of the two individuals is who they are looking for as a possible suspect? Both have some sort of id badges, LE would be able to see the details better showing here.

no

 

[louvillian08]

Makes me wonder more about being followed/stalking her movements

This was my take as well. Canvassing the area between her last two known locations

 

[nycpizzaparty]

Right. And not to go down a rabbit hole, but even Brian K had a motive… was it a rational one that non sexual sadist psychopaths can understand? Not really. But in his mind he was settling a score and proving something. I believe that will be the case here, there’s always some kind of motive.

Something could also be not premeditated/planned. Imagine a relative treats another relative poorly - years of condescending comments and barbs and insults. And then one day the other relative has enough and explodes back. Family can bring out the absolute worst in each other.

 

[turaj]

Every time she said it though, she explicitly made sure to quote her source. So technically isn't she not the one saying it if she's directly quoting somebody. And under what circumstances does this fall under free speech/press. I just feel like there are a lot of loopholes here.

JMO

i would hold her liable for the reporting on TC. She never named the source.

 

[jillybean51]

strange. I went to the link and didn't see a comment made by anyone with that name, must be getting filtered out for me. Thanks for explaining!

Posted screen shots above

 

[Alkali13]

AMPM, IMO.

Quick Google search and I agree.

 

[darring21]

Every time she said it though, she explicitly made sure to quote her source. So technically isn't she not the one saying it if she's directly quoting somebody. And under what circumstances does this fall under free speech/press. I just feel like there are a lot of loopholes here.

JMO

She's the one saying it publicly and causing damages. I could tell you something about a third person but that doesn't really damage their reputation. If you take that information and blast it publicly and it is not true, you're the one causing damages. Technically, we have both committed slander and could be sued but they couldn't get money from me, because I didn't cause damages.

 

[Puzzles8]

Hello all! I've been reading and keeping up with the thread for a couple days now and all the thoughts and leads everyone has been posting has been inspiring, so I thought maybe I would leave my thoughts here to inspire anyone else!

My main focus has been the motive of this crime. If money was the motive, then it is my belief the ransom notes would have included either Proof of Life or some form of an open communication line, therefore assuring they receive the money they want. I think regardless of intelligence, the kidnapper(s) would have known no money would exchange hands until there is Proof of Life.

So if money isn't the motive, then my next best guess is attention. The fact these ransom notes have been delivered only to news stations would corroborate this. Not to mention, SG's obvious ties to the news. It feels like a lot of this crime has been done to capture the attention of the country and News Cycle. (Another thought along these lines is the fact the response to the kidnappers from SG and LE may have been purposely not posted through news channels in order to deny them that fame, and therefore prompting the kidnapper to reach out again.)

That has been my line of thinking thus far, and if anyone disagrees with the above I would love to hear it. It's hard poking holes in your own theories haha.

On another note, I keep seeing mention of an Uber Driver and I can't seem to find where that comes into play, as far as I know NG was dropped off at home that night by her family. If anyone has a link or can quickly clear that up for me I would appreciate it.

It is reported that NG took an Uber over to her daughter's home and then family took her home that night.

JMO

 

[Alkali13]

Is this stating one of the two individuals is who they are looking for as a possible suspect? Both have some sort of id badges, LE would be able to see the details better showing here.

No one in this picture is a suspect. It's LE.

 

[LRinCA]

Is the photo implying the guy in line onscreen is of interest? An older man wearing a work lanyard with an ID?

I saw this on Twitter a few minutes ago. Last remark might answer your question:

 

[ttjo]

This is the gas stations LE was inquiring at on Friday at 1:58PM MST. Any Arizona locals know which brand/company this is based on gas pumps?
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Is it this one?

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Is the photo implying the guy in line onscreen is of interest? An older man wearing a work lanyard with an ID?

No. It was clarified that that man in the picture is the investigator.

 

[Wsimm]

So we either have:

1) someone in the family, most likely SIL and/or Annie motivated by some kind of financial gain that they hoped to gain from her passing, and the ransom stuff is just someone trying to capitalize on the situation. Or I suppose the responsible family member(s) could have orchestrated the ransom hoax as a distraction.

2) an actual professional kidnapper who has experience doing this and saw NG as a good target (at least in part because SG wealth).

3) someone not in the inner circle, but someone who is familiar with NG and her house and was in her extended circle somehow. Either a lawn guy, an electrician, a pool guy, etc. that knew who she was, knew who her daughter was, and hatched some half baked plan to either rob her, kidnap her, murder her, etc and then sloppily executed it. The motive here would be money as well in the form of ransom.

4) some deranged politically motivated person who disagreed with SG or felt slighted by SG somehow and was interpreting her on TV from his basement and decided to lash out in this way. Similar to a politically motivated mass shooter or incel type.

5) I hesitate to even write this, but a sexually motivated rapist, murderer, kidnapper who saw her, stalker her and executed a plan on her that night. You wouldn’t think that this would happen to an 84 yo but sadly it does.

Taking everything we know currently into account, I would rank them 1,3,4,2,5.

What say you, WS?

I’m leaning towards 3, but this “someone” is also familiar with AG and SIL. I don’t feel the motive has anything to do with money.

 

[cady]

My reason for asking is because if they find a reason to return again, another proof of reason why they need to return, judge to sign off on search warrant etc. which will be a delay. I hope this is a better explanation of why I am asking.

I was just kidding around, but you are right, please no delays!

 

[Sadi]

It will be SIL, that's clear to see at this point due to the link between both properties. AB was right on the money

Myself included in thinking it’s the SIL still for various reasons. What are you referring to the two properties? LE/FBI investigations and removing evidence at both houses, cars towed etc. or something in addition??

 

[MassGuy]

Is the photo implying the guy in line onscreen is of interest? An older man wearing a work lanyard with an ID?

Those are investigators.

 

[muddlehead]

So we either have:

1) someone in the family, most likely SIL and/or Annie motivated by some kind of financial gain that they hoped to gain from her passing, and the ransom stuff is just someone trying to capitalize on the situation. Or I suppose the responsible family member(s) could have orchestrated the ransom hoax as a distraction.

2) an actual professional kidnapper who has experience doing this and saw NG as a good target (at least in part because SG wealth).

3) someone not in the inner circle, but someone who is familiar with NG and her house and was in her extended circle somehow. Either a lawn guy, an electrician, a pool guy, etc. that knew who she was, knew who her daughter was, and hatched some half baked plan to either rob her, kidnap her, murder her, etc and then sloppily executed it. The motive here would be money as well in the form of ransom.

4) some deranged politically motivated person who disagreed with SG or felt slighted by SG somehow and was interpreting her on TV from his basement and decided to lash out in this way. Similar to a politically motivated mass shooter or incel type.

5) I hesitate to even write this, but a sexually motivated rapist, murderer, kidnapper who saw her, stalker her and executed a plan on her that night. You wouldn’t think that this would happen to an 84 yo but sadly it does.

Taking everything we know currently into account, I would rank them 1,3,4,2,5.

What say you, WS?

door numero uno for me, Monty