AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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The sheriff did say more than that at the presser. The sheriff said that they didn’t have a “Prime Suspect” nor did they have a “Person of Interest”. The sheriff went on to say that everyone was a suspect until they were not. Suspects included anyone who had any interaction with NG. The sheriff is not going to give a list of people that have been ruled out at a press conference before the investigation has concluded.
Right, but in doing so, they're letting speculation get completely out of control. SG is technically a suspect by that logic.
 
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Didn't a news outlet get the first ransom demand on Monday? JMO and recollection.
You are right. KOLD got it at 5PM on Monday. Media didn't report it until the 4th. "The first ransom note in the case of missing Nancy Guthrie was received by the Tucson television station KOLD News 13 at approximately 5:00 p.m. on Monday, February 2, 2026. "
 
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Thanks,
All I remembered was speculation of something having been done "recently".
Did you remember if any particular contractor was mentioned?
I see on Sept 22, 2025 A electrical permit was applied for closed on Jan 6 2026. Interestingly I see no roof permit. Perhaps it was just painted and it possible that does not require a permit
 
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The sheriff did say more than that at the presser. The sheriff said that they didn’t have a “Prime Suspect” nor did they have a “Person of Interest”. The sheriff went on to say that everyone was a suspect until they were not. Suspects included anyone who had any interaction with NG. The sheriff is not going to give a list of people that have been ruled out at a press conference before the investigation has concluded.
He said they didnt have a person of interest or a suspect “identified” and “we aren’t there yet”
Funny the filters on here blocked out my word I must have written the initial for piece of $..T instead of POI. Oops Freudian slip.
 
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I wonder if the mega brained computers at Tesla could provide that information very quickly?

Maybe privacy considerations can be circumvented by something like: Our Teslas send signals to us all the time regarding battery efficiency, auto driving etc etc. Tesla reserves the right to collect and use that info as we see fit?

In the this case, the routine signals are used to where certain cars were at a certain time?
Tesla owner here. Sorry, I'm waaay behind here in the thread. Yes, video can be provided instantly as it's simply recorded on a USB drive. The problem is most Teslas come with a standard 128GB drive which is only 3 hours total and then continuously overwrites the oldest files. Some Tesla owners do add larger storage but most don't. Tesla's security recording consists of two main functions: Dashcam, which records while you are driving, and Sentry Mode, which monitors the vehicle while it is parked.


The issue is it's now been around 150 hours since Nancy went missing. The biggest break in the case would be if the vehicle they were looking for happened to park at the Circle K location next to a Tesla with Sentry mode enabled. That would give a very clear, close up footage of a person getting out and back into their car. Anytime someone parks next to me or in front of me, or even walks next to my Tesla, it records video of them and saves it. Tesla does give you the option to disable or enable the Sentry Mode as it typically consumes 1% to 2% of battery per hour so some owners do turn it off.
 
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To me, it looks as though he’s chatting with a woman in the kitchen. It doesn’t look like an area that’s open to the public. I’m assuming LE spoke to her to see if she had any information about him. IMO he could be a delivery driver.

Someone will recognize him, IMO.
No one is looking for the man on the monitor. He is the investigator. @MassGuy please edit your post to indicate the investigators are in the photo!
 
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Right, but in doing so, they're letting speculation get completely out of control. SG is technically a suspect by that logic.
it's technically true though
 
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On another note, I keep seeing mention of an Uber Driver and I can't seem to find where that comes into play, as far as I know NG was dropped off at home that night by her family. If anyone has a link or can quickly clear that up for me I would appreciate it.

Don’t have a link, but IMO the Uber driver is significant because he was the last non-family member to have seen NG. JMO. He drove her to Annie’s house, reportedly.
 
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Was curious about what AG has authored, but she taken her website offline.

1. Always possible, but if AG was in the plan, I'd view her as the victim. She did stand out during the family interview but mostly because she was trying to suppress tics. (IMO. All three children looked rather introverted to me, btw. Was it mom's trait? Was NG not too extroverted, probably not an idle talker, a smartie, an independent woman who made it even when got she widowed, until this happened?)

So if AG's husband was involved, he probably did it behind her back, or intensely manipulated her.

2. Highly possible especially if NG partook in SG's show. All one has to see is that the daughter is successful and mostly, loving.

3. Also highly possible. I'd bet on the abduction being for money in this case, and the person being "upset" with NG for being "too critical" or such. I know such a story, with a much younger victim. The person had a prior (concealed) criminal history. I'd add people from the "hired helper's" family to the group.

4 or 5 - sounds unlikely to me. If it turns to be 4 or 5, then, sadly, the world is even crazier than we think. I know things happen, but it is still unlikely. Although an "incel-type" could organize things easier from the standpoint of ransom notes, or such.
2. aka golden child/scapegoat dynamic
 
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Didn't a news outlet get the first ransom demand on Monday? JMO and recollection.
I’m interested in what time the email was sent. Was it before or after the news of NG missing and her daughter was a well known newscaster, hit the headlines? The timing may well indicate whether the ransom demand is genuine or not.
 
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Are we allowed to post theories here if they do not include persons mentioned by name?
You can post theories. Just include that's it's only your opinion etc.
 
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Fwiw, noting..
Nov 12, 2025 rbbm.
''Ann's roofing problem didn't start with a leak.
She said she was on her couch, watching TV, when her doorbell rang. It was a door-to-door salesman for a roofing company.'

"This guy was so nice, he was so, so nice," Ann said, describing the man who came to her door. " He told me he had gone to a prayer meeting the night before and he had me hooked there!"
Hmm
 
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Do we have any proof that a note was NOT left at the home night of abduction?
Well, I doubt there'd be as much confusion about whether the ransom note was really from the kidnappers, if it had been left that night on Nancy's bed. imo
 
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Don’t have a link, but IMO the Uber driver is significant because he was the last non-family member to have seen NG. JMO. He drove her to Annie’s house, reportedly.
It was said during the press conference that the uber driver was spoken to already and cleared. I believe it was the sheriff but it was definitely during the latest presser.

Separately, I am thinking that any similarity to Silence of the Lambs is because most movies etc involve extensive research to make it as realistic as possible.
My opinion is that both match because they are scripted by the fbi, etc to humanize. IMHO
 
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To me, it looks as though he’s chatting with a woman in the kitchen. It doesn’t look like an area that’s open to the public. I’m assuming LE spoke to her to see if she had any information about him. IMO he could be a delivery driver.

Someone will recognize him, IMO.
I think that picture was just showing investigators were in there talking to staff thats all.
 
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IMO its about looking at the credibility of AB and Trump, not just in the context of Nancy's disappearance and nothing to do with their job titles or political leaning.

Many of us do this with reporters, podcasters, etc. That's why there's always comments about 'X gets things wrong all the time' or 'X is just covering the case for attention' or 'X has been spot on in previous cases'.

Considering past behaviour, objectivity and reliability, I think, in all fairness, it is okay to determine one person seems more trustworthy than another when there aren't LE sources to back it up.
So true. The person who ordered resources to the case probably knows more about it.
 
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I just want to take a minute and apologize to all elders and NG. I have seen reference to “tucking in” so many times. I am the one who originally mentioned tucking my 86 year old mom into bed at night and locking her house up when I left. She didn’t want anyone overnight yet. But as I said, my mom was sick and her hospice days were weeks in the future. I literally helped her get in bed, fixed her sheets and blankets, removed her glasses and kissed her cheek. It was as much for me as it was for her. She died a few weeks later. I certainly did not mean to offend so many and wish I’d never used those words. NG did not need tucking in and I never meant to imply that.

No apology necessary!

This case is hitting hard for those of us that are and have been responsible, ultimately, for our elderly parents.

From grim experience of mine having their friends die around them I’ve learned the health of the elderly can change in a snap.

May you find solace in your tender care of your mother I can feel your comfort and love from your posts.

All imo
 
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I feel the same way. I’ll say again, that’s why I love this site… so many different personal perspectives. It really gets you thinking. For me personally my mom is 86 in excellent physical health, fiercely independent and I too would describe her sharp as a tac. With that said, I’ve become increasingly protective of her over the last 10 years. Primarily to keep her desired independence as long as possible.
I asked the same thing earlier, about ubering there and getting a ride home. Someone else commented that is not 'odd'. I wasn't implying it was, but in this particular situation, you have a woman who was taken from her home while bleeding that same night, it begs for an answer.

Me myself, due to mobility/pain issues, sometimes drives, sometimes takes uber or gets a ride, possibly was the case with NG as well, and perfectly understandable. Maybe if she was going to drink, she wanted to take car out of the equation, or maybe understandably doesn't like to drive in the dark. Or, in the worse case scenario, planned to take an uber, but was instead offered a ride home for nefarious reasons.
 

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