Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Tortoise]

i keep meaning to ask this but get caught up with reading more posts:

so the blood at the front door... people saying they think it may have come from her when taken out the front door.... but has anyone said was the front door and security door UNLOCKED!? that's FOUR locks that would have needed to be locked behind them. i don't see that being the case. IMO

the more likely scenario is she was taken out the back (which is probably the way they got in? again IMO

Possible scenario could be

Nancy was injured upon approach to the front door

Went in through the front door

Person took her phone from her

Garage was opened and closed as a ruse by someone who took control of her phone/app/garage opener, because the app was shared with a family member who would get alerts, or opened the garage door from inside, to leave the house.

Someone several hours later removed the door camera, lights, staged a back door break-in, and took Nancy out through the back door, before morning when this would eventually be discovered by someone checking in on her.

The gap between arrival home and removal in the early hours was thinking time

MOO

 

[mikeshanty]

When discussing imminent updates, a reporter asked Trump whether there would be nationwide searches. Trump responded "I'm not talking about a search, I'm talking about a solution". Is this a clue that this may be a genuine ransom situation?

 

[ttjo]

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Am not very informed about Bitcoin so have to wonder what is the significance if any that the circle K mentioned already has a Bitcoin ATM in it? Bitcoin has already come up in the case in relation to the ransom demand so could it be that this indicates a more local motive like someone addicted to purchasing the crypto currency?

I am not very informed in bitcoin either, can they identify a wallet and if there was an activity on it and from where? Maybe they are looking at the cameras outside of that gas station, looks like the atm is not inside the gas but 120 ft away? Based on this map below. The highlight on the chevron camera looks like they were looking outside

 

[turaj]

If I was driving a mobility-impaired friend or family member home, I would have them remotely open the garage door while still seated in the car, then I would pull in to the garage, assuming there is room (if her car is parked inside) -- maybe I would even back in, if that gets her passenger door closer to the house door while still leaving maneuvering room.

Unless, of course, the passenger requested I do otherwise. MOO

it is safe to assume that Annie and/or her husband took NG home often. They probably had a routine down and it went the same that night. In my garage it is easier for passenger to get. out before a car is pulled into the garage and more room to enter the home. I s ee no reason to think it was complicated that night just their usual routine.

 

[mikeshanty]

I thought it was released on Feb 14th. There were some earlier premieres, most notable in NY and CA, but nothing tying it down to AZ, where this crime seems incredibly localized to.

I also know the line in the video released to the kidnappers also lines up with a line in Silence of the Lambs, but that particular line did seem more of an attempt to humanize the victim, to have the culprit engage and speak with the victim. I'm not sold on Silence of the Lambs having anything solid to do with this crime.

Regardless, there is no coincidence too small to ignore, so I'll definitely keep this in mind.

Oh wow, that would make it the 35th anniversary of the release date!

 

[Starkville]

dbm

 

[birdbox]

We discussed earlier that Silence of the Lambs was released on 31 Jan and 1 Feb 1991

Hmmm. Interesting thought about the date. I know a lot of people get paid on the last day of the month. In my state all state employees get paid on the last day of the month. Maybe its just a day tied to the significance of getting paid for some people. Ransom=payday=last day of month

 

[Melisende10]

I am not very informed in bitcoin either, can they identify a wallet and if there was an activity on it and from where?

Anyone who knows an address can see money that came and went and the total amount in the account.

However you won't know who owns the account.

 

[thefragile7393]

To me, it looks as though he’s chatting with a woman in the kitchen. It doesn’t look like an area that’s open to the public. I’m assuming LE spoke to her to see if she had any information about him. IMO he could be a delivery driver.

Someone will recognize him, IMO.

that is an investigator

 

[Nikynoo]

But isn't it odd there hasn't been a more emphatic statement from the police ruling out AG and SIL? They are aware of the immense speculation, but all the sheriff said was basically "just be more mindful".

The sheriff did say more than that at the presser. The sheriff said that they didn’t have a “Prime Suspect” nor did they have a “Person of Interest”. The sheriff went on to say that everyone was a suspect until they were not. Suspects included anyone who had any interaction with NG. The sheriff is not going to give a list of people that have been ruled out at a press conference before the investigation has concluded.

 

[birdbox]

Even Bryan Koberger who thought he was smarter than everyone else made mistakes. Trust me, this guy is going down!

 

[PacoElFlaco]

Are we allowed to post theories here if they do not include persons mentioned by name?

 

[Donswife48]

it is fine but so many others used the phrase that as an independent woman in my 70's wanted to make it clear that is on a case by c ase situation. For you and your mother that was great for both of you. From now on if someone implies that anyone over a certain age needs lots of care just going to ignore it and get on with finding Nancy.

I'm 77, live by myself in rural area. And I'm just fine with it. I would never want to live close to my family or have them check in on me. And on another point, if I were ever held for ransom, I don't want it to be paid. At 77, I'm just fine with not being around anymore, and I would tell the kidnappers that and smile at them. JMO

 

[mikeshanty]

The sheriff did say more than that at the presser. The sheriff said that they didn’t have a “Prime Suspect” nor did they have a “Person of Interest”. The sheriff went on to say that everyone was a suspect until they were not. Suspects included anyone who had any interaction with NG. The sheriff is not going to give a list of people that have been ruled out at a press conference before the investigation has concluded.

Right, but in doing so, they're letting speculation get completely out of control. SG is technically a suspect by that logic.

 

[connie9030]

Didn't a news outlet get the first ransom demand on Monday? JMO and recollection.

You are right. KOLD got it at 5PM on Monday. Media didn't report it until the 4th. "The first ransom note in the case of missing Nancy Guthrie was received by the Tucson television station KOLD News 13 at approximately 5:00 p.m. on Monday, February 2, 2026. "

 

[Czechgirl]

Thanks,
All I remembered was speculation of something having been done "recently".
Did you remember if any particular contractor was mentioned?

I see on Sept 22, 2025 A electrical permit was applied for closed on Jan 6 2026. Interestingly I see no roof permit. Perhaps it was just painted and it possible that does not require a permit

 

[ttjo]

The sheriff did say more than that at the presser. The sheriff said that they didn’t have a “Prime Suspect” nor did they have a “Person of Interest”. The sheriff went on to say that everyone was a suspect until they were not. Suspects included anyone who had any interaction with NG. The sheriff is not going to give a list of people that have been ruled out at a press conference before the investigation has concluded.

He said they didnt have a person of interest or a suspect “identified” and “we aren’t there yet”

 

[UsernameRequired]

I wonder if the mega brained computers at Tesla could provide that information very quickly?

Maybe privacy considerations can be circumvented by something like: Our Teslas send signals to us all the time regarding battery efficiency, auto driving etc etc. Tesla reserves the right to collect and use that info as we see fit?

In the this case, the routine signals are used to where certain cars were at a certain time?

Tesla owner here. Sorry, I'm waaay behind here in the thread. Yes, video can be provided instantly as it's simply recorded on a USB drive. The problem is most Teslas come with a standard 128GB drive which is only 3 hours total and then continuously overwrites the oldest files. Some Tesla owners do add larger storage but most don't. Tesla's security recording consists of two main functions: Dashcam, which records while you are driving, and Sentry Mode, which monitors the vehicle while it is parked.


The issue is it's now been around 150 hours since Nancy went missing. The biggest break in the case would be if the vehicle they were looking for happened to park at the Circle K location next to a Tesla with Sentry mode enabled. That would give a very clear, close up footage of a person getting out and back into their car. Anytime someone parks next to me or in front of me, or even walks next to my Tesla, it records video of them and saves it. Tesla does give you the option to disable or enable the Sentry Mode as it typically consumes 1% to 2% of battery per hour so some owners do turn it off.

 

[txsleuth70]

To me, it looks as though he’s chatting with a woman in the kitchen. It doesn’t look like an area that’s open to the public. I’m assuming LE spoke to her to see if she had any information about him. IMO he could be a delivery driver.

Someone will recognize him, IMO.

No one is looking for the man on the monitor. He is the investigator. @MassGuy please edit your post to indicate the investigators are in the photo!

 

[thefragile7393]

Right, but in doing so, they're letting speculation get completely out of control. SG is technically a suspect by that logic.

it's technically true though