AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[MesquiteO21]

I think pointing out that he may or may not be a reliable source of information isn't poltics. He put the words out there, so they can be discussed. It has nothing to do with politics but whether they are a reliable source of information IMO

Completely agree. We’ve all discussed how Nanos has said contradictory things, who is AB’s supposedly impeccable source etc. So there’s a lot I feel skeptical about unless/until they are proven true.

moo

 

[Starkville]

Some press outlets like this CNN article
Include the call from “fellow churchgoers”. Some, such as Axios, omit it from their articles. I’ve seen it both ways.

But at the Sheriff’s own news conference, mention of the call was not included in the presentation (PowerPoint?) shown to the press. I’ve included two examples from our own Websleuther and one from MSN that are credited to the Pima County Sheriff’s Office.

There is no ‘new’ official timeline.

I will post the official timeline and link to TMZ taken from the 11 AM news conference. I used this website not because I subscribe to TMZ but it presented the official timeline in a straight-forward way.I know this has been on previous messages upstream. But I decided to go ahead and repost it ‘if’ it would be helpful to others.


Nancy Guthrie's Kidnapping Timeline Detailed By Officials

 

[Wsimm]

He's saying the perpetrator has a connection to KOLD news station. I'm not familiar with local news in the US - is there any connection between this station and SG / Today show?

Harvey said that “maybe they’re (LE) looking for a really intelligent person, who’s text savvy and who also has gone missing in the last week”. He also went on to say the letter is “constructed well, it’s layered, it’s grammatically all correct”. It appears the letter comes from a sophisticated, intelligent person.

 

[clearskies1]

This is along the lines of where I am. I am thinking NG cut them out of her will or was planning to do so. I think they were counting on this money as neither has high paying or even medium paying jobs. For the siblings you’ve I got a fighter pilot, a famous news anchor, and a…. poet? A poet married to a teacher? That type of disparity sticks out to me… what were they doing? How did they live? How much resentment did that cause over the years and some kind of money disagreement with NG could have been the last straw.

Sometimes people want "an advance" on the will and it gets denied. If she was going to cut someone out of the will and tell them that .... that would basically be a severance of the relationship. Probably other family members would know about some or all of these things. Just speculating. JMO

 

[Fromeaster]

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[Sadi]

In the press conference the sheriff said AG's car was impounded through a search warrant. He said something like that was normal or usual to do that. But I feel like it's not normal or usual to do that because the search warrant needs to state a very good reason to have suspicions for taking the car. Obviously theyre searching for evidence/DNA, but the question is why? Obviously NG's DNA would probably be in the car from being driven around by her daughter. So the search warrant had to have specified something more than that. Just my opinion/thoughts that that doesn't seem routine.

Someone else’s DNA that was taken from her car could have come back and LE obtained the search warrant to get it investigated. IMO

 

[tkcrockett]

Tesla owner here. Sorry, I'm waaay behind here in the thread. Yes, video can be provided instantly as it's simply recorded on a USB drive. The problem is most Teslas come with a standard 128GB drive which is only 3 hours total and then continuously overwrites the oldest files. Some Tesla owners do add larger storage but most don't. Tesla's security recording consists of two main functions: Dashcam, which records while you are driving, and Sentry Mode, which monitors the vehicle while it is parked.


The issue is it's now been around 150 hours since Nancy went missing. The biggest break in the case would be if the vehicle they were looking for happened to park at the Circle K location next to a Tesla with Sentry mode enabled. That would give a very clear, close up footage of a person getting out and back into their car. Anytime someone parks next to me or in front of me, or even walks next to my Tesla, it records video of them and saves it. Tesla does give you the option to disable or enable the Sentry Mode as it typically consumes 1% to 2% of battery per hour so some owners do turn it off.

does it record sounds or just pictures? Interesting! Thanks

 

[SMK777]

In the press conference the sheriff said AG's car was impounded through a search warrant. He said something like that was normal or usual to do that. But I feel like it's not normal or usual to do that because the search warrant needs to state a very good reason to have suspicions for taking the car. Obviously theyre searching for evidence/DNA, but the question is why? Obviously NG's DNA would probably be in the car from being driven around by her daughter. So the search warrant had to have specified something more than that. Just my opinion/thoughts that that doesn't seem routine.

Agreed.

 

[Cassie P]

I couldn’t throw a rock and hit that light to save my soul. Get a ladder and try to dismantle it instead.

I would have no idea how to dismantle it. The best I could do is get on a ladder and hit it with a bat or large object. I am still not sure if I would be able to damage it like in the picture.
There is no way I could throw a rock to do that kind of damage.

 

[Sadi]

If the perp smashed the flood lights maybe there are finger prints.

On the light or rocks, whatever the used to damage it.

 

[KBlackRabbit]

For the thought exercise I got a list of professions: LE, cybersecurity, intelligence, journalists, also dissidents and whistleblowers. But the person can have any job and be a tech nut.

Levin says he thinks the person is local to Tucson, is intelligent, sophisticated, possibly connected to KOLD, and knows of Nancy from around town and believes the person started with Nancy and extrapolated from there, “hey, she has a famous daughter that’s probably rich” rather that starting with Savannah and drilling down for relatives.

He also said the letter is thoughtful, layered, and grammatically correct. Journalists should be well-written and well-spoken. So should teachers and poets.

 

[muddlehead]

Right now it's looking like whoever is behind this is a criminal mastermind. I can't believe there are no traceable clues or leads. JMO

Except the breaking of the front door light
Is comically amateurish

 

[Sessiebo]

Right now it's looking like whoever is behind this is a criminal mastermind. I can't believe there are no traceable clues or leads. JMO

I think you give the criminal too much credit imo, i think there are clues and leads but they just didn't release those to the public. Just imo

 

[Aquabot13]

I'm thinking golf club for the flood light smashing. Plentiful in Tucson and not immediately obvious as a weapon. A heavy iron could do that easily.

MOO

 

[Herat]

The trick would be to get her across the US border into Mexico.

A US passport or passport card is needed if she was a visible passenger. There would be cameras and video that LE could retrieve.

Risky, though. US CPB have the authority to examine vehicles crossing into Mexico, looking for cash, guns, etc. and a white panel van would probably at least be opened. If it was a passenger car, then she could have been in the trunk. All scenarios pretty horrible to think about.

There are 3 border crossings that would be reasonable from Tucson:

Nogales, MAJOR border crossing, 70 miles from Tucson, 1 hour 10 minute drive
Naco, very minor border crossing, 108 miles from Tucson, 2 hour drive
Douglas, very minor border crossing, 123 miles from Tucson, 2 hour 15 minute drive.

Of course, at ~ 3 am, there would be far less road and border traffic. I think this idea of crossing into Mexico is certainly worth pursing.

Of note, there is a Border Fence along the US/ Mexico border in Arizona, but the tall Border Wall has not yet been completed in remote parts, especially the San Rafael Valley area. I get the feeling the border is "leaky" there and someone with local knowledge would be able to identify areas where a hostage could be taken across a small, remote border breach.

Here is a photo of the state of the US Mexico border in a remote region of Arizona, the San Rafael Valley, something like 100 miles from Tucson

This gives you an idea of how someone with local knowledge and a suitable vehicle could find a way into Mexico late at night, without using one of the regulated Border Crossings:

Border Monument No. 111

One of 276 views of the United States-Mexico border included in portfolio. Image of monument with crumbling corner installed behind metal railing and barbed wire fence …

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There is progress in completing the tall Border Wall, but it is far from complete in this area of southern Arizona

 

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does it record sounds or just pictures? Interesting! Thanks

No audio, just video.

 

[cady]

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[dogmom805]

IMO it sounds like a matter of convenience for all. Uber picks her up at her door and drops her at daughter’s house. Family member (SIL) drives her home after dark and due to lateness of hour. Maybe a regular occurrence.
My son-in-law often schedules Uber for me when I train travel to North Jersey to visit them. It involves a change of trains and if wait time is too long between trains, he gets me a ride . Plus I am often towing heavy luggage. I have never ordered one myself but have ridden Uber frequently.

Yes, and let us not leave out Lyft (poor, poor Lyft does't get much mention, but I love it as well!)

 

[Fromeaster]

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[KellySleuth]

Sometimes people want "an advance" on the will and it gets denied. If she was going to cut someone out of the will and tell them that .... that would basically be a severance of the relationship. Probably other family members would know about some or all of these things. Just speculating. JMO

Another possibility is that she was giving them money/supplementing their income and told them that had to stop.