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Very smart and on many cases when house is in a trust, its tied to their overall estate. There is a trustee and all assets are left to the trust. Then people designated in the trust receive payout and many conditions of the estate and trust can be setup. In my experience, so please dont attack, only people like with larger assets do trusts and estates, leaving homes as part of estate. In my experience in the world folks.
No attack here. Just saying these days with the cost of housing, putting a house in a trust can make sense even if you are not wealthy. But to make it clear, the trustee must abide by the rules of the trust, which usually includes following a last Will and Testement. This is just for informational purposes having been the trustee of my mother's revocable trust, so in my experience. And my mother's largest asset was her house. So revocable trust does not necessarily equal weath. But could.
 
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I thought the plea by her son yesterday was luke warm at best. I would have expected a former military guy, career National Guard is what has been said, would have spoken more man to man..
This is exactly why I would be very reluctant to make a public statement about anything, or a public appearance anywhere, in a situation like this.
 
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No attack here. Just saying these days with the cost of housing, putting a house in a trust can make sense even if you are not wealthy. But to make it clear, the trustee must abide by the rules of the trust, which usually includes following a last Will and Testement. This is just for informational purposes having been the trustee of my mother's revocable trust, so in my experience. And my mother's largest asset was her house. So revocable trust does not necessarily equal weath. But could.
Yeah you aren't wrong. Its one of those things where irrevocable trust may not= wealth, but almost always wealth= irrevocable trust.
 
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Grok, write me a ransom letter.
Good point. Does the availability of AI prevent ransom note analysis for the purpose of psych profiling?
 
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Definitely off topic but I would urge anyone who is reading this stuff about trusts and wills to consult a local attorney before making any conclusions about their own situation. How this stuff works varies pretty significantly from state to state, so the obvious correct thing to do in one state might have some downsides in another. Not a lawyer, MOO, but blanket statements about estate law are not always accurate.
 
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I thought the plea by her son yesterday was luke warm at best. I would have expected a former military guy, career National Guard is what has been said, would have spoken more man to man..
On the contrary, I think the brother being a military guy, presents in a non-emotional way. Not to say he does not feel deep suffering. Surely all are short on sleep and in shock. Probably also was following a script given by LE or attorneys.
 
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Very rapid developments last night...

Very quiet today...

Lull before the storm --

I believe it's coming.

JMO
 
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So I work in this area and odds are (with SG's knowledge/wealth and NG's wealth and age) NG may have a trust, not a will. A will is basic and has to go through probate, a time-consuming, expensive, public process. A trust would manage more assets, do so privately, and can set things up financially for grandkids, charities, etc. People would still be beneciaries and get money when she passed away. It would also manage the money that NG lives on and protect it in case nursing home care is needed, etc. But it would all be managed by a trustee. A trustee can be a family member, friend, or a bank/corporation. How this factors into a financial motive may still be the same as if it were a will. I just wanted to clarify in case it matters!
I would guess with her impressive income SG has probably removed herself purposely from any monetary interest in NG’s trust? I’m sure SG’s only interest would be in sentimental items. I am also guessing either SG or her brother are the executor of the trust.
 
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Very smart and on many cases when house is in a trust, its tied to their overall estate. There is a trustee and all assets are left to the trust. Then people designated in the trust receive payout and many conditions of the estate and trust can be setup. In my experience, so please dont attack, only people like with larger assets do trusts and estates, leaving homes as part of estate. In my experience in the world folks.
makes sense and given SG is a lawyer I am thinking she might be the executor of the trust. A well written trust will spell out the division of assets.
 
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The timeline and distance the cars were driven would be able to give a general sense of places it traveled to. Maybe that’s another factor that’s already been studied and being searched?
IRRC Armstrong's car data placed her exactly on the streets to Wilson's..even had her driving around and around waiting for Wilson to get home so I feel sure that they have the data from the FM car that took NG home and it may be that is why they are now looking for video along the route. They may say they are looking for an unidentified person but that may not be ALL they're looking for.
moo always
 
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Good point. Does the availability of AI prevent ransom note analysis for the purpose of psych profiling?
Legit question. Grok, write me a ransom letter that would be untraceable of any emotion or clues for an elderly lady kidnapping and plot out my strategy to avoid detection....ever.
 
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Just to be fair wasn't there reports prior to this that did claim forced entry? I believe so.
There's a lot of talk going around, but it's always best to hear from a law enforcement officer's mouth. Get to the facts
 
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This is the gas stations LE was inquiring at on Friday at 1:58PM MST. Any Arizona locals know which brand/company this is based on gas pumps?
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Maybe Valero


Never mind. Maybe it isn't. Maps shows "Circle K" gas (which are gold) Valeros's blue and they're dominant here, but maybe they they changed their style. These pumps have been here since 2019.

I just can't find any other blue gas pumps. Maybe it's a local energy company???

Valero and Circle K often team up.

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Why are you asking about the brand of gas. I know it's a Circle K store.
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I’m thinking forced entry may have been from the door inside the garage to the house. I think the perp may have snuck inside the garage when NG was brought home that night. He waited until he thought she would be asleep. After he confronted her he opened the front door and leaning out he disabled the doorbell camera. He then drove her away in her car perhaps after smashing another camera first. The roofing idea is also on my mind. Perhaps that one camera smashed was an oops I accidentally broke it not. The camera on the pool house may have been disabled on purpose while work was done.
 
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It's possible that the car was taken to pull data from the onboard computers that would confirm the route the car was driven when the FM took NG home and the route driven when the FM returned to the FM home. I forget from the Kaitlin Armstrong trial if the auto data also had the time along with the route she drove the night she murdered Mo Wilson but I think it did. I didn't know cars did that until that trial.
The family member didnt take nancy home in her own car. She went to her daughter's via uber. Reportedly, she was driven back home after dinner by "family". They impounded Nancy's Subaru from her garage.
 
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makes sense and given SG is a lawyer I am thinking she might be the executor of the trust. A well written trust will spell out the division of assets.
You know she is. My sister is an attorney and of course she was my dad's executor, despite me being the oldest and having a degree in finance and working on PhD in cybersecurity. That law degree is going to trump out just about anything! Lol!!
 
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