AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I know a lot of people are resistant to the idea of kidnapping, think it’s the family etc. but I just don’t think so. This isn’t just a normal woman, she’s the mother of a celebrity known by millions. Anyone could’ve targeted her.

Kidnappings and ransoms do happen. Strange and unprecedented things happen all the time. ☹️

I just hope LE has clues and is gaining on this person. They may be smart, but no way they’re smarter than all the federal, state, local resources being poured into this.
 
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This is just horrible. I'm also so confused as to what is actually happening here.
 
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People can comment on ransom and say they would pay it and that is the emotional response and I'm willing to bet that the family have wanted to pay out since the first demand

The fbi will be advising the family to wait and assess the situation first because they will be thinking logically not emotionally .

A person , a mother ,a grandmother ,Nancy has come to harm whether that is physically or mentally and emotionally you cannot help but think with your heart so it is understandable why people would ask why has the ransom not being paid yet

LE will be doing all they can to get a grip on what's gone down and if all roads of investigation lead to a kidnapper you can guarantee ransom negotiations will begin but I would imagine they will be held behind closed doors so as not to encourage other copycat scenarios

Time is of the essence though as perps get panicked and we don't know if Nancy has access to her medication. Even the stress could have led to a loss of life .

What a cruel situation 😢 💔
 
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In regards to SGs new instagram post. First impression is that NG is dead (idk why a kidnapper would admit that since it's their only leverage).

Very confused what return our mother so she can celebrate with us means. (Is this in regards to her recent birthday)

They end it by saying "we will pay" (pay for the return of her body? or NG alive)

JMO
So we can celebrate could be taken both ways? Oh dear.
 
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I am so confused because what is being shown to the public seems to be totally different than what it seems like is going on behind the scenes.
Maybe they have seen some sort of proof that the kidnapper(s) have Nancy and so they decided to pay in hopes to get her back
 
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Just when I think things are headed in a different direction this gets posted and we’re back to a kidnapping. I’m entirely kerfluffled.
Agreed. I would imagine that given the amount of time LE was at the house yesterday, any additional “proof” provided in the follow-up message was thoroughly investigated. I imagine that if LE was able to disprove any of that “proof” they would have advised the family as such. The fact that the family released what appears to be a response to the follow-up message suggests to me that there is at least some legitimacy to the note (either the sender really does/did have NG or they know NG/have previously been to the house). MOO.
 
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I was struck by the “this is very valuable to us”. Does that mean anything else on the surface? Seemed odd.

Wow. They will pay. This is crazy.
Some type of proof of life?
 
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Does this mean the ransom notes are legit?
I feel like that can go either way. Just because they've responded publicly to the ransom demand does not automatically make it legit. It may be the case they feel it is legit, but the response alone does not indicate whether or not it's legit. For arguments sake, lets say its two separate offenders - the family could absolutely believe that paying the ransom will bring their mom home, only to find there was no kidnapping and no amount of ransom money would have ever brought their mother home because there was foul play committed by a different offender. Just my 2 pennies worth
 
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My make-believe detective self would love for the siblings video to be a massive decoy that was just made as a distraction while the FBI gets what they need to make an arrest. I can see them disclosing the decoy just to SG. Rambling thoughts…

At the 2nd presser LE firmly said that no one in the family was a suspect. The next day a journalist asked him about TC, he said that they were looking at everyone.

Shifting statements.
 
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Yes -- you are so on the money. I covered both of those cases and sadly, I went to see McStay in jail with McStay's daughter, a sweet young woman who was SO DESPERATE to prove that her father was innocent. McStay lead me down a lot of rabbit holes. Another mess... But still, not as crazy as what happened to JBR and what's going on now with Nancy.
I think you mean Charles Merritt ;) I followed the McStay case from day 1... I still think of them often.
 
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The family member didnt take nancy home in her own car. She went to her daughter's via uber. Reportedly, she was driven back home after dinner by "family". They impounded Nancy's Subaru from her garage.
Although if the family member did take Nancy home in her car it might make sense.

Nancy has car accident near daughters house, car damaged.

Nancy doesn't feel able to drive any more. Leaves car at daughters house.

Nancy gets lift home.

[All before night of kidnapping]

Night of mahjong, no car so gets Uber.

Family drives Nancy home in own car.

Maybe?
 
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If anyone payed any kind of ransom they should never ever make this public because it opens up the road to so many other crazies thinking they can get rich quick through abduction.
Literally this could be a national security issue if this crap gets out of hand. Imagine terrorists orgs, China, Russia watching right now. They are already plotting who to kidnap.
 
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I had that thought too. That they now know she is dead and they want to simply bring her home. But the "celebrate with her" seemed to suggest she is still alive. So I concluded the family have received a threat to NG's life and are now resigned to paying whatever amount is being demanded. But then the "this is very valuable to us" is a very odd thing to say about a live person being returned :(
I took “celebrate with her” to be a celebration of life and to bring her home.
All around awful and eery.
MOO.
 
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Wow. Some of the wording feels intentional, probably to send a specific message to the person who wrote the ransom note? Been taking it apart to see if there were any media connections but not seeing any, but getting the Silence of the Lambs vibes again (no direct quotes though, from what I can tell).

So eerie. JMO.
 
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My mind refuses to accept it, I still don't believe it.
 
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I was struck by the “this is very valuable to us”. Does that mean anything else on the surface? Seemed odd.

Wow. They will pay. This is crazy.
I know what it said to me
 
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Oh my lord that is insane! Is unbelievable what some people are capable of.
I'm proud of you for putting this behind you. If you let it fester, it can harm your health and destroy your happiness. This is what I try to tell victims: by continuing to dwell on the tragedy, you are continuing your own pain. For your own sake, I hope you really have put this behind you. Money is the root of all evil, but karma is a 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.
 

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