• #10,541
He has a life and a right to chill considering what he's involved in. In my Georgia town the mayor, police chief, etc. go to the sports games. It's a way to show support the community.
I saw our sheriff at the library today!
 
  • #10,542
BTK was the president of his church congregation. If somebody had been sick and couldn't bring a dish to the potluck dinner, he'd offer to bring an additional dish for them. He did tortured and did other horrifically evil things to people and yet he was the "nice neighbor" and leader in his church.
That is absolutely wild to think about. You know what is weird? I can remeber that case in the news and I remember an fbi profiler saying we are looking for an average guy who probably drives a very average, boring type car. This is a guy flying very under the radar basically.
 
Last edited:
  • #10,543
Net worth and actual available cash / banked wealth are often quite different things. It probably doesn't mean she has $40m sitting in her account.
Msy need to sell the upstate property
 
  • #10,544
This is an interesting perspective. I don’t know if I would necessarily think his presence was meant to calm or assure the community, I’d probably side eye and be judgmental of why he was there (just being honest)

moo

Ex-LE speaking on various channels have said it's a bad look, just passing on opinion...
 
  • #10,545
Net worth and actual available cash / banked wealth are often quite different things. It probably doesn't mean she has $40m sitting in her account.
She is wealthy. It’s very simple.
 
  • #10,546
IMO (Outcome Percentages)

Recovered alive: 35%
Best case, and still plausible if the message is real and the offender is seeking leverage, not concealment. The family’s “we will pay” video reads like an attempt to keep a live recovery path open.

Recovered deceased (or evidence leading to that conclusion): 55%
Sadly, the combination of scene indicators and the lack of publicly confirmed proof-of-life by this point pushes the base rate toward this outcome, especially if ransom comms are not authenticated

Not recovered / unresolved in near term: 10%
Less likely if the communications produce traceable leads, more likely if all communications prove fake and the physical evidence yields no identity links.
 
  • #10,547
I think having the body still means a lot. It allows loved ones to truly grieve, find a sense of closure, and honor and celebrate a life by laying someone they love to rest in a meaningful way.
And it also allows the mind to settle in relation to coming up with worst case scenarios about what happened. It helps to ground reality. IMO that's why when someone is missing and never found, their loved ones live with the ongoing trauma of what may have happened. And unfortunately worst case scenarios can plague them. I truly hope that alive or passed, Nancy is returned home
 
  • #10,548
There has been much discussion regarding 'celebrate with her', as a reference to celebration of life. I googled SG and found this regarding her religious upbringing and beliefs.

[...]
Savannah Guthrie, who grew up Baptist in Phoenix, Arizona, is a practicing Christian who regularly attends Trinity Grace Church in Manhattan and considers faith to be an essential part of her life. She is also raising her kids in an interfaith home with her Jewish husband, Michael Feldman. As she recently told the The New York Times, they celebrate both Christmas and Hanukkah.


“I’m always so fundamentally aware of not being the center of the universe,” she told the Times. “Faith really helps you know your place in the world. And I really value that. And I find it endlessly fascinating. Believing in God, loving God, believing in a compassionate God… [it] just absolutely spreads through everything I feel and the way I look at the world.”
[...]


I hope her faith is helping her now.

JMO
Well she didn’t grow up in Phoenix,she grew up in Tucson.
 
  • #10,549
But "celebrate with us"? Idk, i'm not American so i'm not familiar with using celebration in combination with a deceased family member. Is this something common in US?
In Australia too, definitely very common
 
  • #10,550
Because the outlets who received them said it was "millions of dollars."

Again, you do not pay someone who will not give you proof of life. That's a key requirement in any negotiation.

Proof of kidnapping isn't enough? Isn't that a risk someone would have to absorb at that point?
 
  • #10,551
  • #10,552
  • #10,553
  • #10,554
Proof of kidnapping isn't enough?
They haven’t provided any proof they have her though. Isn’t that the whole point, no one knows if they are her actual kidnappers?
 
  • #10,555
I read about it. But is it Nanos's fault? Usually it is linked to the money. Where the money went is a valid question, but is it him?
The specialized plane is key to their Rescue Operations in the desert; the financial resources to ensure it is ready 24/7’s would be there. The problem is the two qualified pilots were no longer with Nanos’ department,

The two pilots recently transferred out; I need to find that article that states one was transferred due to a disciplinary action and the second opted to leave on their own.

I forgot the officer’s name, but he ran a campaign against Nanos; to remove him due to conduct as the Sheriff. Currently, the police officers are divided …
 
  • #10,556
There is no proof of kidnapping, much less that this person committed the kidnapping.

We don't have proof of a kidnapping. Observations of the behavior of all concerned parties seem to indicate that there is a consensus among them that this is exactly what happened. And they have the evidence at hand!
 
  • #10,557
There is no proof of kidnapping, much less that this person committed the kidnapping.

We don't have the proof. But it seems like the family might? So much we just don't know.
 
  • #10,558
  • #10,559
any media at Annies?
 
  • #10,560
I'm proud of you for putting this behind you. If you let it fester, it can harm your health and destroy your happiness. This is what I try to tell victims: by continuing to dwell on the tragedy, you are continuing your own pain. For your own sake, I hope you really have put this behind you. Money is the root of all evil, but karma is a 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.
“The love of money is the root of all evil…”
 
Chapter 1/4

Guardians Monthly Goal

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
143
Guests online
6,394
Total visitors
6,537

Forum statistics

Threads
644,211
Messages
18,813,043
Members
245,325
Latest member
Kling92
Top