AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Vegasgrl]

I'm sure they have their eyes on everybody involved. Also, I just confirmed (using AI) that if you are born in Italy, you may enjoy dual citizenship after you become a US citizen. So someone may have two different passports.

 

[Christineeliz88]

Doesn't mean she was alive, does it? All the timeline says is that "Sixteen minutes later, at 2:28 a.m., Guthrie’s pacemaker app showed it had disconnected from her phone." Wouldn't this indicate that she was taken away from her phone at that time? Could she have already been deceased at that point, but still have her phone on her?

I don't know how pacemakers work, if someone else could chime in here. Would the app show activity if she was deceased and was still wearing the watch?

Source: Authorities provide a timeline of the night Nancy Guthrie disappeared

Im fairly certain that most pacemaker monitoring apps work via Bluetooth connection, WiFi connection, and app continuously running (open) in background. The watch may display the app icon but it cannot be used as a substitute for phone.
So the disconnect could be from phone being turned off, app being closed, or from her being moved out of blue tooth range.
If she was deceased and still connected via Bluetooth to phone it should have a recording of alarm/alerting rhythm and I believe it should have sent that to MD clinic urgently, although it may not have. Most devices are programmed to transfer data from device to app at a certain time each night (recommended to charge phone near bed). A lot are programmed to send data to clinic every 30, 60, or 90 days for review, although I believe alarm/alert messages/concerning data noted from device would be sent daily to heart clinic if connected to Bluetooth at schedule transfer time.
MOO.

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZ]

I imagine that the NG was upset about something and took an Uber to AG's house to confront SIL. SIL reacted violently and NG is harmed. SIL then takes NG's phone and deactivates her cameras, returns to NG's house alone and makes it look like a crime scene by putting drops of her blood outside the front door (maybe he couldn't get into the house?) to make it look like she was kidnapped, and smashes the floodlight. Then he leaves her phone in her car? I'm not sure where the phone was found. Then the ransom notes some time later. AG looked a certain way in the latest plea at a certain moment like she was appealing to him.

 

[whitelilac]

I'm sure they have their eyes on everybody involved. Also, I just confirmed (using AI) that if you are born in Italy, you may enjoy dual citizenship after you become a US citizen. So someone may have two different passports.

Yes, and he could travel to and stay in any EU country.
It's the same in my case.

 

[Kemug]

Oh im sure they gave anything they remembered to LE. Especially if they didnt have a busy night. They'd be more likely to remember.

Yes, but do we know for sure tbat she took an uber?

 

[cathathorse]

The title of the article is how it could possibly show a spike
They only said disconnected at the presser.

This is what it says in the text of the article:

“But it does tell us that she was in close proximity to her cell phone at 2 o’clock in the morning … until that time, they were together,” he said.

The top doc said it would “be easy to know” whether the spike indicated an innocent, routine check-in or an arrhythmia, which would suggest a struggle – and Guthrie’s physician would have the answer.

 

[shonyakay]

The critical question is have they gotten proof of life?

The siblings first plea made it sound like they wanted to hear from the ransomer(s) but were not willing to pay unless they got proof of life of Nancy first. Now they are saying that they got the (ransomer(s) message and are now willing to pay.

This leads me to believe that they DID get proof of life - either that - or they never got proof of life, may fear she is dead, but are willing to pay the ransomer to get their mother back in any condition.

 

[Recidivist]

I think the flashing lights are from a FARO camera. imo

 

[submarine7]

Just a general query, but how often do you think a parent might try to cover for a child's actions? Would most parents, some parents, not at all; what do you think, in general? Just curiousity, fwiw.

I actually think a lot of parents would. It's a natural instinct to want to protect them.

 

[Charlot123]

If you care to read comments on YT videos of any media broadcasting this you will see a gazillion reasons for people's suspicions from the accepted (last to see + family member) to the way he looks, his eyes, lack of money, the lyrics he write, album name... the list goes on...

Not my personal reasoning... just what I've read and answering query.

To be honest, the way SIL looks - an Italian man with beard - and even the music he writes are not a proof of anything. Otherwise, Wilkie Collins could be nr. 1 suspect for Jack the Ripper (he even died in 1889, an interesting coincidence).

Post the same photo and write that SIL opened a shelter for homeless animals, and people would see something very different in him.

I mean, there may be tons of reasons to suspect him, but not his look or songs.

 

[MCB1151]

So is the act of sending a ransom letter over the internet and demanding bitcoin a federal crime? Like without the kidnapping?

Yup. Cross state lines it's FBI territory. Even if you're not physically drovomg back and forth;,

 

[simlyme]

Yes, but do we know for sure tbat she took an uber?

yes, she took an Uber. They spoke with uber driver

 

[TheDinks]

The critical question is have they gotten proof of life?

The siblings first plea made it sound like they wanted to hear from the ransomer(s) but were not willing to pay unless they got proof of life of Nancy first. Now they are saying that they got the (ransomer(s)) message and are now willing to pay.

This leads me to believe that they DID get proof of life - either that - or they never got proof of life, may fear she is dead, but are willing to pay the ransomer to get their mother back in any condition.

I do not believe they ever received proof of life because (a) it wasn't possible; and (b) kidnap for ransom may not even be legit.

The last plea from the 3 siblings clearly shows they know their dear mum is not alive.

 

[watson1]

Yup. Cross state lines it's FBI territory. Even if you're not physically drovomg back and forth;,

18 U.S. Code § 875 - Interstate communications

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[CandyKiss]

Yes, but do we know for sure tbat she took an uber?

Yes, one of the first press conferences the AZ Sheriff and FBI, they stated they tracked down the Uber driver.

 

[Friday Fan]

Going backwards a bit because I have just been lurking here and not posting, the weirdest thing to me from the beginning of this, as just a person with a close family and older grandparents around Nancy's age, is that she was brought back to the house, apparently, at almost 10pm (after arriving over four hours earlier at 5:30ish). I KNOW people have different schedules, etc. but MOST people that age are in their home, if not in bed, by that time. It's just a biological thing for most older people. [Edit for details: They like to get into their Pjs, wash up, take out dentures ha, and sit in front of the Tv for a bit to wind down before going to bed].

We have my grandparents over for dinner often and it's usually a 5:30pm ish pickup, with a 7-8pm at the LATEST return home, we go in and make sure the temperature in the home is good if it's winter, that the lights are on, etc. No we don't have to do that/they would be fine on their own, but I think most people can attest to similar with older relatives, especially if they're not the best on their feet. Late at night they are usually tired.

So that stood out to me from the JUMP as a detail for a casual (four hour) family dinner down the road. The late return from dinner at the sister's... If she was dropped off at almost 10pm for most people that's not bed until 10:30. Which again is pretty late for an older person especially if she goes to church in the morning.

The only person I knew that went to bed early was my mom. My dad was usually 11:30 or so (He was 87 when he died) My grandmother was usually 11 pm. But there was no internet to keep her entertained and she died at age 89 in 1992. I think she would watch the news, then get bored and read, then go to bed. ETA She didn't speak English, so Johnny Carson was not really an option, but the news was visual enough for her.

 

[Kemug]

There's really no telling what happened between last night and today that convinced a judge to sign off on a search warrant.

RSBM
Maybe fhe SIL scarpered?

 

[watson1]

So is the act of sending a ransom letter over the internet and demanding bitcoin a federal crime? Like without the kidnapping?

18 U.S. Code § 875 - Interstate communications

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[nightowl2728]

The only person I knew that went to bed early was my mom. My dad was usually 11:30 or so (He was 87 when he died) My grandmother was usually 11 pm. But there was no internet to keep her entertained and she died at age 89 in 1992. I think she would watch the news, then get bored and read, then go to bed.

Were they usually home by 10pm? That's what I was saying, not necessarily what time they fall asleep.

 

[Baba O'Riley]

This reminds me. I wonder what became of the tip that lady had, (who was looking for LE among the reporters)....something she found along the road during her walk she thought might be important.

I think she was the neighbor who observed the camera on the roof. Apparently, LE hadn’t noticed it. LE removed it. I think she also told LE that the roof had been recently paved or fixed.