AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I have not heard about loud clanking. Was it at the daughter Annie's house? May of been metal ladder or taking apart some metal parts built into the room. I think it was supposed to be the garage that the bright sweeping lights were seen. IMO

Speaking of the flashing light in the garage, I think daily mail is an approved source here, and I notice in their article posted last night it said this:
“Brian Entin shared footage from the scene showing camera flashes in a number of rooms throughout Annie's home, including two bedrooms and a large family room.”


 
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If it is true that an investigator was carrying a map….has someone talked?
Who carries maps anymore
 
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how can the family be staying in this house with all this stuff going on.
I feel they must be somewhere else.....
It was mentioned no one has been staying in that home since Day #3. They are all in separate locations now.
 
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To my knowledge, law enforcement has not stated, explicitly or implicitly, that a crime occurred or could have occurred in or around AG's home. There has been no securing of the scene, no crime tape, and no direct statements or innuendo that suggests that a crime has or may have occurred in or around that home, or by one or more of its inhabitants. They have, however, explicitly stated on multiple occasions that a crime occurred at NG's home in the early morning hours early last week, and after she returned from a visit with AG and family. The sheriff, early on and perhaps ill-advisedly, strongly suggested that she was taken directly from her bed (or home) at that time, and - even though he and his agency appear to now be peripheral to the more active investigation - he, nor anyone else at any other involved agency, has not walked that back.

Three unmarked, unsecured vehicles at an unsecured home doing something last night does not change these facts.

JMO.
 
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Oh that could def happen. It's a sad new world and money and blackmail talks, no matter what the age. imo
This isn’t new.
 
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how can the family be staying in this house with all this stuff going on.
I feel they must be somewhere else.....
I have to hope that they're staying somewhere much more private and it's not being disclosed. I was trying to think of what I would do if I was SG. I came to two/three real options - a large suite at a hotel, or the home of someone trusted. I'm talking lifelong best friend or maybe someone who has a second home that's not being used. I imagine her own security team, which it seems like she had even before this incident, would also be with her. Perhaps some additional security from NBC, some lawyers... I would want a lot of space that I was in control of.

I can't imagine how unsettling and life-altering this is for SG and the family. It shakes their whole foundation. Who can you trust? What's the point?

MOO
 
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I can pull up limited data in the app. It shows the date/time of past interrogations. Mine are usually around 1:30 am or thereabouts. If the interrogation is successful I can see if my pacemaker recorded any anomalies or concerning events.

If Ms Guthrie's pacemaker sent a data pack the previous night at 2 am the only thing you'd see in the app is a successful transmission the previous night and a disconnected/failure on the night in question. There is no data in between.
In between these times, if the phone loses Bluetooth connection with the pacemaker, is that reported in the app? For example, if you have left the phone more than a few metres away? Or had to disable Bluetooth?

I’m asking because low-energy Bluetooth connections are usually maintained between devices, even when there’s no data being sent. It would be interesting to know whether the app recorded disconnections, even when it wasn’t attempting a scheduled data transmission.

(Not suggesting you try this! Just asking about past experience.)
 
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There could easily be an accomplice outside of the family.
In the possibility that the SIL is involved, I’ve never thought he’s connected to the ransom notes. Only scenario I see would be he is responsible for Nancy’s disappearance, and the ransom people are just trying to profit from the situation, but never had Nancy. If the ransom note senders have given LE absolute proof that they have Nancy or had Nancy, then I think SIL has no involvement. I do have another working theory, but will put that in a separate post. This is an absolutely craxy case.
 
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@MassGuy,

What is the general timeframe for potential evidence obtained from AG’s home last night to be processed and results returned? TIA
 
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I clicked your link.. the size of the case ... 8.5" x 4.5" x 1.75"

whatever the deputy was carrying was larger then that IMO Doesn't mean it isn't something similar to the kit you linked and larger. My point was, many reports today saying it was "taken" from the home as if there is something nefarious about it. I disagree.

IMO
Thanks for the info.
I don't know whether I'm in or out..so much reporting/videos. lol
Whatever was removed from the house would be listed in the warrant and I would think if the white object was evidence it would have been photographed where it was found, sealed and numbered/documented.
imo
 
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Someone posted a link to the announcer of KGUN saying the ransom is 6mm and due by 5:00pm Monday. I can't find it online. I think he misspoke and shared that number by mistake. JMO
That's being widely reported, and posted several times in this fast moving thread.

-$6M Ransom
-due Monday 5pm
-or she will be killed

via JJ McKinney from Tucson ABC affiliate KGUN9 reported.

 
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Speaking of the flashing light in the garage, I think daily mail is an approved source here, and I notice in their article posted last night it said this:
“Brian Entin shared footage from the scene showing camera flashes in a number of rooms throughout Annie's home, including two bedrooms and a large family room.”


the attention being paid to AG's home is unusual if noone there being investigated closely.
 
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I have to hope that they're staying somewhere much more private and it's not being disclosed. I was trying to think of what I would do if I was SG. I came to two/three real options - a large suite at a hotel, or the home of someone trusted. I'm talking lifelong best friend or maybe someone who has a second home that's not being used. I imagine her own security team, which it seems like she had even before this incident, would also be with her. Perhaps some additional security from NBC, some lawyers... I would want a lot of space that I was in control of.

I can't imagine how unsettling and life-altering this is for SG and the family. It shakes their whole foundation. Who can you trust? What's the point?

MOO
DJT probably offered accommodation; he did the same for Jennifer Hudson in 2008. Not a political post, just stating past actions.
 
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I can pull up limited data in the app. It shows the date/time of past interrogations. Mine are usually around 1:30 am or thereabouts. If the interrogation is successful I can see if my pacemaker recorded any anomalies or concerning events.

If Ms Guthrie's pacemaker sent a data pack the previous night at 2 am the only thing you'd see in the app is a successful transmission the previous night and a disconnected/failure on the night in question. There is no data in between.

Thanks for the info.

Question: You have the app on your phone? or watch? or both?

Another Question haha : If you leave your phone somewhere and walk a distance away, does it lose connection and do you get a notification of that on your phone?

I'm wondering if during the investigation they found a 'notification' saying it lost contact.
 
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For those wondering about where Savannah and her siblings were during the search last night:

“Savannah Guthrie and her siblings, who had been staying at their older sister's home several miles away, left the location as investigators conducted their search.”

See, this is so confusing. At first I was like “There’s an older sister? I thought Camron was the eldest!” In this case, I guess the writer means that Annie is older than Savannah, and they were all staying at Annie’s home. But she’s not Camron’s older sister.

The state of reporting (and Sheriff statements) these days! Words mean things.
 
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are sleuths thinking that. video footage at gas station which became of such interest is going to show TC?
Not sure, but certain vehicle definitely!
 

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