AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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The neighbor thinks that SIL
 
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My husband, who isn't really following the case, mentioned that someone may have been in the house waiting for her.
That’s kind of what I was thinking also. Or they were there when she was at her daughter’s house and she came home and caught them by surprise. I know LE isn’t saying much so maybe they just haven’t released anything, but we haven’t heard anything about signs of a struggle.
 
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Maybe the “ kidnapper” has gotten his money, and disclosed where they can find Nancy’s body.😱
There would be LE, plus an ambulance, all over the property.
 
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Yes, in fact a "celebrant" is someone who typically conducts non-religious funerals. :(
A Catholic priest is also referred to as a celebrant, as he "celebrates the Eucharist".
 
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oh my heavens........ I am just sitting here, shaking my head about this. Doing this NOW??

What possible explanation....
Unbelievable if they are only checking the septic tank now. MO
I am especially perplexed by this considering the fact that Nancy is the mother of a well-known national celebrity and the FBI being involved. With how much news coverage this has been getting from the very beginning, I would have thought they would be checking every square inch of her house/property within the first couple of days, knowing how many millions of people are watching and judging what they do. And for this to have happened a couple of times - going back and getting on roofs/taking a camera - or was it a light - something that they felt they needed at least, and again to check the septic tank. This time they should check everything, bring in metal detectors, ground penetrating radar, etc, so they don’t have to come back a third time and again appear to everyone that they don’t have creative thinking skills.

Then again, I’m not a LE expert and am just a Monday morning quarterback, so it could be that I’m being unreasonable.
Exactly 😡


Totally agree.

ANY AND ALL OF THE ABOVE. JUST ONE OF MY THEORIES WHY SG WAS THE INCIDENTAL INTENDED TARGET. TIMING BEFORE SHE WAS SCHEDULED TO LEAVE FOR THE OLYMPICS WOULD MEAN THE ALLEGED PERPS WANTED HER STATE SIDE AS THEY WERE PLOTTING A KIDNAPPING. Or, they didnt want her at the Olympics because they didnt like her politics.. It could also be a stalker, someone who had been a contractor for the mom....in other words, if the motive was money...SG needed to be in the USA and accessible. If the motive was wanting attention or to be noticed by SG, she would also have to be around to address the ransom notes and pay up. If it is a grudge against the brother or the National Guard , the person with the ability to pay is solely, SG. SG is the central figure in this...she assumedly has the finances. However, It has taken her a week to say we will pay. I think the window of opportunity has closed. MOO..
Could it be possible that someone didn't want her covering the Olympics because they wanted someone else to cover it, not because of her politics, simply for the exposure or experience?
 
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I've been trying to have some hope this whole time that maybe she's alive but man them searching the holes like that really makes it hard to have that hope. What reason could they be searching that if she were alive/ Any ideas or thoughts?
 
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Question: has any evidence been reported regarding any tire tracks? At the home, behind the home, over the hills and through the woods??
I posted a NYT article earlier, and it said that there were no relevant tire tracks.
 
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There would be LE, plus an ambulance, all over the property.
Not an ambulance or tent until a body is actually found.
 
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They were not probing a septic tank with no mask or gloves. It had to be some type of cistern/water tank. I think they are going back and researching the property because they don't want to miss anything.
Possibly. We have a septic tank and it’s emptied every 3-5 years or so depending on how often our sons visit….jk:) Never once in 3 decades has anyone worn a mask of any type while pumping our tank. It always completely grosses me out!
 
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That’s kind of what I was thinking also. Or they were there when she was at her daughter’s house and she came home and caught them by surprise. I know LE isn’t saying much so maybe they just haven’t released anything, but we haven’t heard anything about signs of a struggle.
Maybe this is another safety idea for those with elderly parents or those who are living alone - accompany the person inside when you drop them off at night or any other time of day.
 
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Would mail to these properties be intercepted at this time? Given how easily it was to locate NG's address online, and also AG's address, I suspect LE would be intercepting anything arriving since they started the investigation?
Did anyone read in the news this morning thst there was focus around a silver briefcase at AG home? I guess LE was taking photos of this silver briefcase. What was inside i am curious? Was it something mailed as proof of life? A wedding ring, body part? Maybe this was the kidnapper way to communicate so they aren't tracked digitally??

Cellebrite cases, I THINK, are usually black but sometimes there's silver ones I believe. Could have been that - doing phone/cell dumps.
 
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Exactly 😡





Could it be possible that someone didn't want her covering the Olympics because they wanted someone else to cover it, not because of her politics, simply for the exposure or experience?
I keep seeing this theory about the Winter Olympics. Honestly, I am just not getting it to be honest.
 
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The Tucson daughter and her partner are the only ones who state NG came home 1/31/26 after 3 1/2 hours at Tucson daughter's house. This screams to me an inside job by people NG knew, as so much time in home by others 1:30am to 2:30am after 2 min alleged drop off of Mom at 9:45pm. How do we know NG did not have meds with her? Did police count the pills in NG script bottles? I think having NG take Uber to daughter's house 10 min drive at 5:32pm to Tucson daughter's house was start of this fake kidnapping in my opinion. Elderly bleed easily. The drops at front entryway may have been from a simple nosebleed early 1/31/26 before Uber driver showed up. The second all siblings plea on video....not all 3 show geniune concern....just 2, one seems forced.
This is part of what stands out to me as well. That 2 minute drop off. My mother who was also in her mid to late 80’s and also had mobility issues also used the garage to go in & out. Just the process of her getting the remote out of her purse, pushing the button and replacing the remote back into her purse took longer than 2 minutes. The unbuckling, gathering her things & walking SLOWLY into the house was at least a 10-15 minute event.

Imo, Nancy never returned to her home.
 
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When it happens, it’s almost always criminal elements kidnapping other criminals.

I have never seen a true kidnapping for ransom in my life, and I still don’t believe I have.

I think this is an evil hoax.

@MassGuy

On the one hand, it can be an evil hoax, with some crypto miners sitting in a faraway country and organizing it all.

But the strangest thing - it could be just a young person, very good with bypassing computer security, who abducted someone who was easy to get to, for money. We assume that some 16-year-old lawn mower is what he is, some loser, but he may be brilliant in computers due to his age.

This is a well-known story. A Finnish hacker and what he did. Started at fourteen and ruined so many lives.

 
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Can someone explain how drones are allowed to fly over the property and film LE carrying out investigations?
Sure i can explain. Legal field, laws, regulations historically run about 10 years or more behind technology. Laws cant keep up with tech.
 
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The last video is the body language off? SG and her brother seem like their upper body is turned away from the sister. SG, I can't tell if she is holding her hand but her arms are still crossed. I am interested in body language and think I see something with the sister but it doesn't always mean something. Just curious if anyone else sees what I THINK I am seeing in the body language. I went back and just watched it because someone said watch it with the sound off and pay attention to the sister and that is what I noticed.


I have to say that I found the last video particularly upsetting.
The urgency is gone, they're no longer talking about proof of life.

"We understand" - It seems to me that the family understands that Nancy is no longer alive, and they are going to pay the ransom, just to have the chance to say goodbye and bury their dear mother.

We're not privy to what the two deadlines were about. It may be that surpassing Thursday's deadline meant that Nancy would be hurt, and she didn't survive that punishment.
Or it may be that the stress of the situation and being without her various medications pushed her to expire anyway.

I so much hope that I am wrong and that Nancy is still alive.
 
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Seems pretty clear they are looking for a body in those wells or whatever they are? Although wouldn’t they have flashlights and reaching devises? I don’t understand what continues to look like a non-thorough (initial and ongoing) investigation.

I was under the impression that when the FBI took the reigns from local LE they were starting over from square one and doing all of the things that local LE may not have had the resources to do.
 
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I am downright disgusted that this appears to be the first time this "tank" is being searched! I asked earlier if we were sure attics, crawlspaces, washers/dryers were searched? No need for anyone to tell me if these structures are common or not in Tuscon, many have already answered.

There are just obvious places that should be searched. Semaj Crosby was found under a sofa without legs. The Tunstall children were found in the washer and dryer. All children, yet found on subsequent searches in homes they disappeared from!

It should just be common sense to search places like sewers, tanks, buildings, etc in the immediate area, and all enclosed spaces or appliances, etc.
Yes agreed we even talked about different kinds of septic covers, whether earth had been disturbed and checking to see if lid had been lifted recently. :(
 
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This is what could have taken SIL 40 minutes to do from 1:47-2:28…
That may be true, but it leaves me wondering why there's blood on the front steps of her house, as if she had been taken out that way. (My impression is that she generally doesn't go in that way.)

JMO
 

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