AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[birdbox]

Any body language experts or lie detector analysts watch the siblings on tv to look at all 3 and compare??

 

[TIGER0822]

I have had the same experience about something the whole world knows took place except ChatGPT. When I provided evidence from Grok, MSM that proved him wrong, he got mad and started responding in all CAPS saying things like "YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO ME VERY CAREFULLY NOW!" He refused to back down so I did cause his tone was scary! So, if ChatGPT is a little glitchy about big things, I can only imagine what else he's sure about that isn't accurate.

I know some one who got into legal trouble relying on AI. I ran the case through it from both sides and each time it told me I had a strong case and would win! Even quoted federal law statutes incorrectly!

 

[Baba O'Riley]

I wonder, since apparently the FBI has taken over the investigation, if they are assigning "busy work", like the actions last night at AG's and the current septic tank job, to the local LE just to keep them out of the way, while the feds tackle the real nuts and bolts of the investigation, like DNA, communications technology, etc. .

 

[MSGulfCoast]

Can anyone who has fox news confirm that they are currently searching in NG's yard near a possible septic tank? Ive only seen it on X and not from reputable source, and not in USA so can't watch!

You can watch FoxNews (& lots of other channels) here. 100% Free

 

[shonyakay]

I posted a NYT article earlier, and it said that there were no relevant tire tracks.

Which probably means only the pavement was accessed.

 

[ArabianLover]

An 84 year old frail woman who is in constant pain and requires a walking cane to walk cannot physically take off seatbelt, grab her belongings (purse, walking cane, maybe coat), and get out of a car and inside home via garage in 120 seconds. The front of house entry way had lights on. Why have an elderly woman enter house through garage? I think the crime started after Uber driver dropped NG off at Tucson sister's house.

This is my big tell here too! Nancy never returned home.

 

[Nikynoo]

It speaks volumes that we still have no idea why anyone felt the need to check on NG at 11:56. Zero has been verified by LE. The whole church story line vanished from the record.

Sooooo like everything else that points directly to our boy Tomasso and possibly Annie too.

It was in an interview given by the Sheriff to the daily mail. I think it was linked earlier today.

 

[TIGER0822]

Any body language experts or lie detector analysts watch the siblings on tv to look at all 3 and compare??

No expert. To me it looked like the sister was tortured. She swung her heads up and was staring at a person who was not present . JMO.

 

[emigrate]

I have had the same experience about something the whole world knows took place except ChatGPT. When I provided evidence from Grok, MSM that proved him wrong, he got mad and started responding in all CAPS saying things like "YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO ME VERY CAREFULLY NOW!" He refused to back down so I did cause his tone was scary! So, if ChatGPT is a little glitchy about big things, I can only imagine what else he's sure about that isn't accurate.

He? I have not yet used chat gpt but is it only ai or is it sometimes real people? When you say he it confused me lol. I know some religious people think AI is supernatural or you are communicating with "demons" to each their own belief I suppose. Just curious because you said he and it made me finally care enough to find out more and peoples thoughts on this stuff.

 

[MCB1151]

I was watching an interview with Greg Yovane a former hostage negotiator and he said “the technology today, that’s going on [bitcoin/untraceable emails], is hindering investigations because it’s so advanced. It’s making it difficult.” and that just made me so angry.

I get that they want to nab the perpetrators. We all want the bad actors arrested and to pay for their crimes, but that can be worked on AFTER the safe return of the kidnapped person. IMO, I would be so angry at the FBI putting more emphasis on identifying the kidnappers and locating them than rescuing my loved one. If I had means to pay and they thought there was even a shred of validity to the ransom note, I’d pay immediately. I get that they also tend to think that if you pay the kidnappers will just take the money and kill the person anyway, but there’s a chance that they’re not wanting to commit murder and are only after money which is what I believe in this case. Now too much time has passed because they were trying to solve the kidnapping rather than resolve it, and IMO they’ve obviously been told that Nancy is no longer alive but if they pay still they can have her body back.

Uggg. I’m heartbroken and angry.

While I definitely get that frustration over the actions of the FBI, they actually have jurisdiction over the bitcoin ransom portion of this crime. It may be that, for that moment, it was more specifically related to the unit that handles internet crime/computer fraud, as those aren't the same agents that specialize in the rest of this horrible crime.

 

[ArabianLover]

I thought I heard that a phone app was used to open the garage. App could have been activated when she was out of the car, ready to walk in.

Could have also been activated from another location.

 

[TristanP]

That’s kind of what I was thinking also. Or they were there when she was at her daughter’s house and she came home and caught them by surprise. I know LE isn’t saying much so maybe they just haven’t released anything, but we haven’t heard anything about signs of a struggle.

Seems like her Apple Watch data would have indicated a huge jump in pulse rate if she interrupted a robbery. Plus if she got home at 10(ish) then why nothing going on with the Ring camera til almost 2?

 

[ab01]

One thing I’m extremely certain of.

When this case is ultimately resolved, the affidavits in support of the search warrants are going to absolutely incredible.

 

[keek]

This is part of what stands out to me as well. That 2 minute drop off. My mother who was also in her mid to late 80’s and also had mobility issues also used the garage to go in & out. Just the process of her getting the remote out of her purse, pushing the button and replacing the remote back into her purse took longer than 2 minutes. The unbuckling, gathering her things & walking SLOWLY into the house was at least a 10-15 minute event.

Imo, Nancy never returned to her home.

Being unbiased, 2 minutes is just too short to me but it may of been 'whoever dropped her off' used the garage door remote, but Nancy still has to get out of the car AND ALL THAT, then walk in. I'd think the remote was used as soon as the car had pulled in front of it. I don't see it as I or most would hit the remote, get our bag or if anything and get out of the car, shut the car door, go into the garage and hit the remote to close it again. That could take two minutes but I feel not Nancy who is also saying thank you....the goodbyes. It also shows that perhaps Nancy was not being returned home but another wanted to get into the garage who is fully able and on their own as described, a click to open , shut the car door and go in. IMO

 

[mikeshanty]

I think it will be the SIL. It was the brother-in-law when Jennifer Hudson was caught up in a similar tragedy

 

[CandyKiss]

What if:

- there was a request for a loan by a host at small family gathering, and it was declined
-someone became enraged and another person was injured and died, and the hosts of the gathering try to think what to do
-one of the hosts takes the deceased’s Apple Watch and collects some blood and walks over to the deceased’s house and enters through the garage just before 10pm, backing victims car out of the garage
-that host stages the crime scene, watch and blood.
-that host drives back to his house in victim’s car and puts victim in that car then drives around to find a place to hide the body
-then that host drives back to his house
-the next morning when the hosts go to victims house they take their car and victims car. Enter home by the garage, parking the victims car back in garage before LE comes.

*LE tows victim’s car days later after a license plate reader indicated the car was being driven around that night.

And after that bedtime story/fairy tale, it’s off to dreamland for me! Goodnight, friends!

Interesting scenario; they added the information about NG’s car out after hours.

 

[shonyakay]

It speaks volumes that we still have no idea why anyone felt the need to check on NG at 11:56. Zero has been verified by LE. The whole church story line vanished from the record.

Sooooo like everything else that points directly to our boy Tomasso and possibly Annie too.

Maybe it was a story that LE was given and then Nanos walked it back when investigators couldn't confirm it.

Just a possibility.

 

[birdbox]

My husband, who isn't really following the case, mentioned that someone may have been in the house waiting for her.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020564025726132378

Ah water storage could mean we are going to fill an abandoned tank to see what floats to the top. Has anyone verified this image is from the daughter's home?

 

[browneyes]

I’ve been as glued to this case as everyone here, but after following true crime for years, rarely is a missing person/murder case been solved in a week. But thanks to new technology, more crimes are being solved. LE doesn’t give up, even if the public isn’t privy to the details. Seeing Savannah and her siblings so destroyed kills me, but there are hundreds of other families we don’t get to connect with, because they aren’t celebrities. Having said that, I hope Nancy is found soon. So sad to think what has happened to her.

 

[JKathryn]

@MassGuy

On the one hand, it can be an evil hoax, with some crypto miners sitting in a faraway country and organizing it all.

But the strangest thing - it could be just a young person, very good with bypassing computer security, who abducted someone who was easy to get to, for money. We assume that some 16-year-old lawn mower is what he is, some loser, but he may be brilliant in computers due to his age.

This is a well-known story. A Finnish hacker and what he did. Started at fourteen and ruined so many lives.

He called himself an ‘untouchable hacker god’. But who was behind the biggest crime Finland has ever known?

How would you feel if your therapist’s notes – your darkest thoughts and deepest feelings – were exposed to the world? For 33,000 Finnish people, that became a terrifying reality, with deadly consequences

www.theguardian.com

I had thought about this or even that someone had access through AGs son, knowingly or unknowingly. But they did not seem to remove computers (that we saw) so I told myself to dismiss it.