Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[ArabianLover]

The Tucson daughter and her partner are the only ones who state NG came home 1/31/26 after 3 1/2 hours at Tucson daughter's house. This screams to me an inside job by people NG knew, as so much time in home by others 1:30am to 2:30am after 2 min alleged drop off of Mom at 9:45pm. How do we know NG did not have meds with her? Did police count the pills in NG script bottles? I think having NG take Uber to daughter's house 10 min drive at 5:32pm to Tucson daughter's house was start of this fake kidnapping in my opinion. Elderly bleed easily. The drops at front entryway may have been from a simple nosebleed early 1/31/26 before Uber driver showed up. The second all siblings plea on video....not all 3 show geniune concern....just 2, one seems forced.

This is part of what stands out to me as well. That 2 minute drop off. My mother who was also in her mid to late 80’s and also had mobility issues also used the garage to go in & out. Just the process of her getting the remote out of her purse, pushing the button and replacing the remote back into her purse took longer than 2 minutes. The unbuckling, gathering her things & walking SLOWLY into the house was at least a 10-15 minute event.

Imo, Nancy never returned to her home.

 

[Charlot123]

When it happens, it’s almost always criminal elements kidnapping other criminals.

I have never seen a true kidnapping for ransom in my life, and I still don’t believe I have.

I think this is an evil hoax.

@MassGuy

On the one hand, it can be an evil hoax, with some crypto miners sitting in a faraway country and organizing it all.

But the strangest thing - it could be just a young person, very good with bypassing computer security, who abducted someone who was easy to get to, for money. We assume that some 16-year-old lawn mower is what he is, some loser, but he may be brilliant in computers due to his age.

This is a well-known story. A Finnish hacker and what he did. Started at fourteen and ruined so many lives.

He called himself an ‘untouchable hacker god’. But who was behind the biggest crime Finland has ever known?

How would you feel if your therapist’s notes – your darkest thoughts and deepest feelings – were exposed to the world? For 33,000 Finnish people, that became a terrifying reality, with deadly consequences

www.theguardian.com

 

[birdbox]

Can someone explain how drones are allowed to fly over the property and film LE carrying out investigations?

Sure i can explain. Legal field, laws, regulations historically run about 10 years or more behind technology. Laws cant keep up with tech.

 

[Spectrix]

The last video is the body language off? SG and her brother seem like their upper body is turned away from the sister. SG, I can't tell if she is holding her hand but her arms are still crossed. I am interested in body language and think I see something with the sister but it doesn't always mean something. Just curious if anyone else sees what I THINK I am seeing in the body language. I went back and just watched it because someone said watch it with the sound off and pay attention to the sister and that is what I noticed.

I have to say that I found the last video particularly upsetting.
The urgency is gone, they're no longer talking about proof of life.

"We understand" - It seems to me that the family understands that Nancy is no longer alive, and they are going to pay the ransom, just to have the chance to say goodbye and bury their dear mother.

We're not privy to what the two deadlines were about. It may be that surpassing Thursday's deadline meant that Nancy would be hurt, and she didn't survive that punishment.
Or it may be that the stress of the situation and being without her various medications pushed her to expire anyway.

I so much hope that I am wrong and that Nancy is still alive.

 

[shonyakay]

Seems pretty clear they are looking for a body in those wells or whatever they are? Although wouldn’t they have flashlights and reaching devises? I don’t understand what continues to look like a non-thorough (initial and ongoing) investigation.

I was under the impression that when the FBI took the reigns from local LE they were starting over from square one and doing all of the things that local LE may not have had the resources to do.

 

[EJB123456]

I am downright disgusted that this appears to be the first time this "tank" is being searched! I asked earlier if we were sure attics, crawlspaces, washers/dryers were searched? No need for anyone to tell me if these structures are common or not in Tuscon, many have already answered.

There are just obvious places that should be searched. Semaj Crosby was found under a sofa without legs. The Tunstall children were found in the washer and dryer. All children, yet found on subsequent searches in homes they disappeared from!

It should just be common sense to search places like sewers, tanks, buildings, etc in the immediate area, and all enclosed spaces or appliances, etc.

Yes agreed we even talked about different kinds of septic covers, whether earth had been disturbed and checking to see if lid had been lifted recently.

 

[LAhiker]

This is what could have taken SIL 40 minutes to do from 1:47-2:28…

That may be true, but it leaves me wondering why there's blood on the front steps of her house, as if she had been taken out that way. (My impression is that she generally doesn't go in that way.)

JMO

 

[birdbox]

Any body language experts or lie detector analysts watch the siblings on tv to look at all 3 and compare??

 

[TIGER0822]

I have had the same experience about something the whole world knows took place except ChatGPT. When I provided evidence from Grok, MSM that proved him wrong, he got mad and started responding in all CAPS saying things like "YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO ME VERY CAREFULLY NOW!" He refused to back down so I did cause his tone was scary! So, if ChatGPT is a little glitchy about big things, I can only imagine what else he's sure about that isn't accurate.

I know some one who got into legal trouble relying on AI. I ran the case through it from both sides and each time it told me I had a strong case and would win! Even quoted federal law statutes incorrectly!

 

[Baba O'Riley]

I wonder, since apparently the FBI has taken over the investigation, if they are assigning "busy work", like the actions last night at AG's and the current septic tank job, to the local LE just to keep them out of the way, while the feds tackle the real nuts and bolts of the investigation, like DNA, communications technology, etc. .

 

[MSGulfCoast]

Can anyone who has fox news confirm that they are currently searching in NG's yard near a possible septic tank? Ive only seen it on X and not from reputable source, and not in USA so can't watch!

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[shonyakay]

I posted a NYT article earlier, and it said that there were no relevant tire tracks.

Which probably means only the pavement was accessed.

 

[ArabianLover]

An 84 year old frail woman who is in constant pain and requires a walking cane to walk cannot physically take off seatbelt, grab her belongings (purse, walking cane, maybe coat), and get out of a car and inside home via garage in 120 seconds. The front of house entry way had lights on. Why have an elderly woman enter house through garage? I think the crime started after Uber driver dropped NG off at Tucson sister's house.

This is my big tell here too! Nancy never returned home.

 

[Nikynoo]

It speaks volumes that we still have no idea why anyone felt the need to check on NG at 11:56. Zero has been verified by LE. The whole church story line vanished from the record.

Sooooo like everything else that points directly to our boy Tomasso and possibly Annie too.

It was in an interview given by the Sheriff to the daily mail. I think it was linked earlier today.

 

[TIGER0822]

Any body language experts or lie detector analysts watch the siblings on tv to look at all 3 and compare??

No expert. To me it looked like the sister was tortured. She swung her heads up and was staring at a person who was not present . JMO.

 

[emigrate]

I have had the same experience about something the whole world knows took place except ChatGPT. When I provided evidence from Grok, MSM that proved him wrong, he got mad and started responding in all CAPS saying things like "YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO ME VERY CAREFULLY NOW!" He refused to back down so I did cause his tone was scary! So, if ChatGPT is a little glitchy about big things, I can only imagine what else he's sure about that isn't accurate.

He? I have not yet used chat gpt but is it only ai or is it sometimes real people? When you say he it confused me lol. I know some religious people think AI is supernatural or you are communicating with "demons" to each their own belief I suppose. Just curious because you said he and it made me finally care enough to find out more and peoples thoughts on this stuff.

 

[MCB1151]

I was watching an interview with Greg Yovane a former hostage negotiator and he said “the technology today, that’s going on [bitcoin/untraceable emails], is hindering investigations because it’s so advanced. It’s making it difficult.” and that just made me so angry.

I get that they want to nab the perpetrators. We all want the bad actors arrested and to pay for their crimes, but that can be worked on AFTER the safe return of the kidnapped person. IMO, I would be so angry at the FBI putting more emphasis on identifying the kidnappers and locating them than rescuing my loved one. If I had means to pay and they thought there was even a shred of validity to the ransom note, I’d pay immediately. I get that they also tend to think that if you pay the kidnappers will just take the money and kill the person anyway, but there’s a chance that they’re not wanting to commit murder and are only after money which is what I believe in this case. Now too much time has passed because they were trying to solve the kidnapping rather than resolve it, and IMO they’ve obviously been told that Nancy is no longer alive but if they pay still they can have her body back.

Uggg. I’m heartbroken and angry.

While I definitely get that frustration over the actions of the FBI, they actually have jurisdiction over the bitcoin ransom portion of this crime. It may be that, for that moment, it was more specifically related to the unit that handles internet crime/computer fraud, as those aren't the same agents that specialize in the rest of this horrible crime.

 

[ArabianLover]

I thought I heard that a phone app was used to open the garage. App could have been activated when she was out of the car, ready to walk in.

Could have also been activated from another location.

 

[TristanP]

That’s kind of what I was thinking also. Or they were there when she was at her daughter’s house and she came home and caught them by surprise. I know LE isn’t saying much so maybe they just haven’t released anything, but we haven’t heard anything about signs of a struggle.

Seems like her Apple Watch data would have indicated a huge jump in pulse rate if she interrupted a robbery. Plus if she got home at 10(ish) then why nothing going on with the Ring camera til almost 2?

 

[ab01]

One thing I’m extremely certain of.

When this case is ultimately resolved, the affidavits in support of the search warrants are going to absolutely incredible.