• #12,501
I'm not sure why it matters if the perp is reading this thread? Are you suggesting that we not comment? There is analysis and comments all over the place, not just here.
I don’t think the perp could care less what we are thinking or posting. They have their hands full right now.

Amateur opinion and speculation only
 
  • #12,502
A WSer replied to me last night that he checks Pima County Jail every hour.....as of then, no news
Could he be in a federal jail, or is that not how it works?
 
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Has ANYONE considered that the perp is reading these comments? Whoever he is, he has managed to pull off a disappearance of an elderly lady who is well connected. He has opened a bitcoin account. He has a so far, untraceable Email. He is familiar enough with the area that he notified a local TV station and a high profile entertainment outlet..TMZ. The "tip" by AB sent everyone in the wrong direction and THAT IS WHAT BOUGHT THE PERP more time. His crime has been so far flawless. Maybe no ransom has been paid but no mother has been recovered and that's not a win for the family. SG is a nice news person but there are dozens. Someone working for her mom or an associate of an associate plotted this, right down to timing it so SG wouldnt be in Milan. 6 million in ransom is more than the average person could manage. With very little research, someone seized on a woman whose daughter was popular and had a substantial nest egg. The crime was built around familiarity with a lady is Tuscon (NG) and her well heeled daughter. It's a local person with criminal connections. JMO.
Yet so far it all seems to point towards the son in law. It is his house that has been searched numerous times. Have they even searched anyone elses house come to that?
 
  • #12,504
Supposition is that mahjong needs 4 players, so 4th must've been the boy. JMO
Are we sure Mahjong was actually played? Or was it a ruse to create the appearance of “ normal” family night?
 
  • #12,505
Those wouldn’t be made public at this point. But there have been without a doubt ones filed, as there have been many searches taking place.
If warrants are being served, then they should be docketed somewhere, even if it’s under seal.
 
  • #12,506
Where are you getting these details,... You must add a viable msm link to declare such things.

As far as I have read--Nancy was NONE of these things...except carried a cane.
If you were able to watch SG’s initial plea she mentions the pain factor. Media has extensively covered NG’s health including her pace maker, daily needed meds, and only an ability to walk short distances.
 
  • #12,507
I don’t think the perp could care less what we are thinking or posting. They have their hands full right now.

Amateur opinion and speculation only
Exactly - it would be extraordinary if the perp was scrolling WebSleuths. What would they achieve based on this thread? If they are using the internet at all right now, I imagine it would be the dark web.
 
  • #12,508
A WSer replied to me last night that he checks Pima County Jail every hour.....as of then, no news
Would authorities possibly keep the information private?
 
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Police are often slow to name suspects or persons of interest to protect the integrity of ongoing investigations, avoid violating the privacy rights of innocent individuals, and ensure a fair trial. Early identification can jeopardize evidence collection, tip off suspects, or falsely defame individuals before sufficient evidence is gathered. Police typically wait until formal charges are filed or they have enough evidence to secure a conviction, avoiding premature naming.

AB crossed the line revealing what she did - when she did.
 
  • #12,510
From what I've read so far NG pretty much depended upon the cane or a walker for mobility, is why it concerns me whether it was found in her home, or it went with her..
I’m positive that it was reported in the first few days that her cane was left behind but I can’t find that anywhere now
 
  • #12,511
It sounds like flash photography.
No. There was a blue light and flashing intermittently. The background d was dark so they were photographing in the dark/blue light. I’ll see if I can find the video

Here
Post in thread 'Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026'
AZ - Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026
 
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I will say someone is doing a good job of keeping the whereabouts of the family unknown. Normally there are some sightings.
Isn't TC a middle school teacher? School personnel would know whether or not he was at school last week.
 
  • #12,513
If that were the case, I think it would be an expensive and troublesome way to accomplish that goal in addition to exposing oneself to felony kidnapping charges and prison time.
yeah, i imagine if someone really wanted to keep SG from going to the olympics they could send her or her employer some scary threats about hurting her if she comes to italy that would make them not want to send her there! kidnapping (and possibly worse) someone’s mother to do that doesn’t just take so much more effort but is also a much bigger risk.
 
  • #12,514
If she was taken by people whom she knew closely, she's alive in my opinion. If it was strangers, not likely.
I am concerned its the other way around . She could easily recognize voices, hands, clothes, even walk of people she knows. What are they supposed to do with her then?
 
  • #12,515
I'm chatting with my best friend right now because her and I always get into these types of cases together. She is a defense attoryeny in Seattle. This was her thoughts and she made some good points especially about knowing about Nancy's pacemaker being connected to the watch!


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If the call did go to the police about someone from the Church missing them considering she had not been for years...that possibly came from someone who knew her to know she attended remotely.
 
  • #12,516
Possibly. We have a septic tank and it’s emptied every 3-5 years or so depending on how often our sons visit….jk:) Never once in 3 decades has anyone worn a mask of any type while pumping our tank. It always completely grosses me out!

oh I agree with this....
But all my service calls were just that--- service calls.
Not LE calls....

Racking my brain trying to think of what might still be traceable in the water or tank....
 
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I agree, but I do wonder whether they phrased it that way to try to curb speculation that she's dead. Even if they know that she is dead maybe they just kind of wanted to not acknowledge that publicly yet for some reason.
JMO
The reason they picked the word “celebrate”, is because Nancy has passed. I could be wrong.
I agree “ celebrate with her” is awkward. I think this means they want her body back to have a proper funeral and body burial.
 
  • #12,519
It's difficult to know without being close to anyone in the family, but what if AG is scared, not guilty. Could there be DV going on? Her body language appears unusual to some, I agree. It's such a major stressful situation and everyone reacts in their own way. But, what if she is scared for her own safety?
Good point. IF again I’m saying IF
NG’s disappearance is somehow linked to her SIL or her SIL’s acquaintance’s, AG would know what the people who took her mom are capable of and the consequences she would face for helping the investigation….

AG may be terrified.
 
  • #12,520
They were busy making dinner. If he’s like most men I know, the SIL was grilling something and the wife making everything else. Maybe they were hooching it up a bit while cooking too. Easier to send for an uber and have everything ready when Mom arrived. Just a guess.

Amateur opinion and speculation

Still seems insensitive to me. And I have no idea if they were both cooking or grilling and too busy to assist her by picking her up. It wouldn't take them that long to manage picking her up. JMOO
 
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