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Honestly, this is frankly insane that there is no real update a week after an 84 year old woman goes missing. Either a very complex case and they are taking time, or they are completely incompetent.
 
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Has there been information about search warrants being filed?
Megyn Kelly said on one of her shows that her producers tried to pull a copy of the initial search warrant and that it was sealed so they couldn't.
 
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Yes. Life isn’t always perfect little minutes and seconds.

I always think that if i was murdered or went missing, people would be totally stumped by timelines. I’m ADD and nothing i do makes sense 🤪
You should see me try to clean my house 🤦🏻‍♀️

For example, IF her phone was indeed in her car—

if it was me, there’d be a simple explanation—
i went to my car with my phone after being dropped off to get a seltzer water from a 12 pack that i still hadn’t taken out of my car from a Costco trip a week ago. When i was breaking the case open, i put my phone down and forgot to pick it back up. Once i was all comfy in bed, i realized i forgot my phone in my car and was too tired to go back out and get it.

Now, in reality, i would go and get my phone because i fall asleep playing zen word. But someone else all comfy might think meh I’ll get it on my way to church in the morning. I don’t need it.

Again this is if her phone really was in her car. No one has confirmed or denied this. They are being sketchy with the wording.
I have intense ADD and I am cracking up because this is SO true. Good luck figuring out my train of thought and my actions because *I* can't make sense of what I do half the time lol
 
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I seriously think that Pima County is keeping the podcasters/reporters/media busy with these searches so they can do their real work behind the scenes.
 
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I have seen a lot of people saying "would you/they pay ransom for the body"

But at that point, though I'm sure yes you would prefer to have the body returned, that isn't really what you're paying for. You're paying for certainty. Not having that, and going through the rest of your life without it, would truly be horrendous - that's the real high value thing here, not the body itself.
 
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Still seems insensitive to me. And I have no idea if they were both cooking or grilling and too busy to assist her by picking her up. It wouldn't take them that long to manage picking her up. JMOO
There's a million different reasons. As I get older I find the logic of people older than me frustrating including my old mom. Old people can be stubborn and have their own logic and rationale. Maybe she insisted on taking an uber for whatever reason. Everyone's different and we simply don't know the woman's outlook or the family dynamic there.

We don't know a lot about the dinner still (or this case); was anyone else there, etc etc.
 
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No. There was a blue light and flashing intermittently. The background d was dark so they were photographing in the dark/blue light. I’ll see if I can find the video
I'm pretty convinced they were doing testing with luminol.
From what I saw in the videos last night, the scene was way too similar to what we witnessed in the windows in the Zahra Baker case.
 
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Considering a million or so people are suspecting or outright accusing him of murdering his mother in law for money, he’s smart to maintain privacy.

Everything he did would be discussed incessantly online, as this thread demonstrates.

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I agree that there could be a valid reason for him to keep a low profile even if not involved in any way.

As for discussing him on this thread - It was discouraged right after AB’s revelation of what her source told her - but when the sheriff said everyone was still a suspect or person of interest, discussion was allowed because he was the last person to see her alive or at least one of the last ones and the person who last saw the victim is always a suspect or person of interest until ruled out by LE. And in light of LE’s visits to the AG/TC home with no family present that they just went to talk to, it appears they are definitely checking on something - leading me to conclude that they do in fact suspect someone from that home of involvement of some type.
 
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Has the family been cleared? What has the Hil said about dropping her off? I still don’t see the reason for getting an uber?
 
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Let’s parse the latest from Pima SD:

No briefings planned unless there’s a “significant development.”

“The sheriff is not granting additional one-on-one interviews. The sheriff remains the sole spokesperson for the Pima County Sheriff’s Department regarding this investigation.”

“This remains an active and ongoing investigation. Detectives and agents continue to conduct follow-up at multiple locations. Details of that follow-up are not being released at this time.”

Still no suspects, persons of interest or vehicles identified.





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Hey folks,

There was a bit of a glitch and a few posts got deleted that should not have been. They will be reinstated but things are moving fast and we're doing our best to get to everything.

SB ❤️
 
  • #12,535
Still seems insensitive to me. And I have no idea if they were both cooking or grilling and too busy to assist her by picking her up. It wouldn't take them that long to manage picking her up. JMOO
This. They only live reportedly 10 minutes away. I could not believe, I don't care whatever people argue about how independent someone is, etc., who can't drive 10 minutes to pick up an 84-year-old on a cane? And I also think that, if this goes the way it looks like it's going, it really does speak volumes. I have thought that for days now.
 
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I have had to go to mom's this past week early in the morning (to give her dang cat his insulin lol) I have been parking out front and have had to ask her to unlock the front door for me because... I have NEVER used it and don't even have a key for it. We usually use the backdoor and it has a keypad. I was thinking I should probably have a key for that door lol

I don't think it would be odd at all if the family also used the garage to enter the home. I think it is quite normal for everyone to have their preferred entrance into their home and family follows suit.
I use my garage to enter my home most of the time. It is attached to the house and I can pull in and then go right into my kitchen
 
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Abducting someone’s mother to stop them reporting at the Olympic is insane, I’m not buying into that theory at all
 
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I am undecided/not convinced that AG and/or her husband has anything to do with NG's disappearance. If they do, I hope they are prosecuted to the fullest extent. If they don't, I can't imagine the pain that they and the rest of the family is and will go through for the rest of their lives.

I am the local daughter that has the responsibility of caring for my mom who has some dementia. It can be both a blessing and a curse and can be a source of some very difficult family dynamics - even in the best of families. I can imagine that there may be a certain amount of resentment from AG towards SG & CG - not that she doesn't love them and can even be proud of/happy for them and their success. But it can be very hard to be the one that is faced with the day-to-day care of an aging parent. Even if NG wasn't in need of full-time "care", there is still the sense that you (AG in this case) are the one to make sure she is OK, that she gets to appointments, social things, has/takes her medicine, runs errands, makes sure household and financial things are done, etc. And you do this day in, day out while your siblings live far away and may seem blissfully unaware of the day-to-day care you provide. It often feels like you are the sole person responsible for your mom's health, safety, etc.

So when this tragedy happened, even if AG had nothing to do with it, I can easily see how she could feel responsible/guilty and/or even feel like the rest of the family is blaming her. Add to this that this is a very public case and there is so much speculation that AG and/or her husband are involved and that many in the media/social media are openly saying they are guilty. Imagine how difficult it must be to deal with your mom being missing under this circumstances and then having to cope with the public blame and worry if your own siblings may believe you are responsible. And even if they aren't "responsible" in the sense that they harmed NG, the pain of feeling responsible because you were the last one to see her and that you didn't keep her safe and wondering if your own siblings are questioning your involvement must be unbearable.

One of the things I love about Websleuths is that it is victim-friendly so I am kind of surprised that there has been so much posted here openly accusing AG and/or TC of being involved. I understand and respect that Websleuths is where we share our thoughts, theories, etc but I always thought that we weren't supposed to speculate about someone's involvement unless/until they were named a person of interest by LE. I really hope that AG (and TC) had nothing to do with this and that somehow the family will be able to heal at some point.
I was thinking the same, but it’s been more than a heartbeat since I’ve done more than peek at threads so have things changed? This one did pull me back in to commenting. Anyway, I’m taking a guess that since there was a statement made about TC being a suspect by an approved journalist? that provides the link needed. Though again, I thought it had to come from LE. MOO.
 
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Still seems insensitive to me. And I have no idea if they were both cooking or grilling and too busy to assist her by picking her up. It wouldn't take them that long to manage picking her up. JMOO
NG was probably used to taking Uber for appointments, shopping etc. if she didn't want to drive. She probably has an upgraded account and gets priority rides
 
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