AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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They might be playing very very sick games.

So are we sure it was the septic tank of the neighbor LE were checking?
Because if so, this is getting really crazy.
I’m pretty sure at this point because I’ve been trying to place it all day and couldn’t until now. This isn’t a great pic (source Fox News drone) but it’s the hvac and wall that didn’t match with NG house. Other source is Google Maps. NG’s property is immaculate. The other is messy.
 

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Murdered that night and dumped in the desert. The kidnapping is just a red herring to draw attention away from the murder. And possibly to collect a larger insurance payout.
That's a cold take, but highly plausibe.
 
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How long after payment was received that Nancy would be returned. It takes so long to get back to the area. If they said within 5 hours, you can look and see where you would be 5 hours from wherever they said that they would return her
That is exactly how TMZ determined it. They have the letter and know the time that the kidnappers said it would take to return her, based on staying within speed limit-and assuming they are driving--they came up with this "radius" map. Of course it could all be BS, and is based on a lot of assumptions, and who would be driving her back and where.
 

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Is there a link for that?
Found video here from CBS, AZ Senator Mark Kelly speaking on the case, starting at :28 seconds:

"Before it was public, Savannah called me...and then I called the sheriff, and I called the Tuscon police chief. So that was, uh, mid-afternoon on Sunday, and Savannah was on the way to the airport to fly here, and obviously rather upset. So I've been doing whatever I can do."
 
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Looks like things have slowed down today. I imagine tomorrow might be a day of big developments.
Given that the second ransom deadline is tomorrow, I'm sure there will be activity in the case and possible updates from LE.
 
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Where has this been said? “Haven’t gone snooping…”

I think they have secretly been “snooping” all along. It’s part of not ruling anyone out.
I haven’t heard them reporting much on the family dynamics. The most that we have is the sil writing poetry, being from Italy, and having been in a band. That’s about it. That was easily found doing a quick Google search.
 
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The first communication was received well after Ms Guthrie's disappearance.

"KOLD received the first ransom note at approximately 5 p.m. Monday, news director Jessica Bobula told NewsNation. The station sent it directly to investigators and did not report on it until authorities issued a joint statement with the FBI acknowledging they were aware of ransom note reports."

What if... 1st deadline missed she was killed. If 2nd deadline missed, no return of body.
 
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Has it been mentioned that Senator Mark Kelly has come out and said that Savannah called him on her way to airport on Sunday to tell him what was going on and seek his help. To me, it appears from that that they knew right away this was extremely serious and not just a “she walked away” or went out with someone else type thing.
I saw a video of MK explaining this on X. He says SG flew to Tuscon on Sunday. That makes sense if there was no sign of her and perhaps the visual clues of something being seriously wrong in the home. I didn't think anything suspicious of it.
 
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Can we go back to the grandkid for a bit? I'm digging through posts trying to find info but there's SO MUCH.

AG & SIL have a child, correct? Age? Do we know where this child was last weekend?
It's against the rules to sleuth minors. Just a heads-up.

See Rules - Etiquette
 
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The ransom decision thing feels very straightforward but simultaneously not straightforward at all. If SG pays, does she instantly put a target on the back of her child, potentially worth much more than $6 million if that's what she'll pay for what could be her elderly mother's remains? Her other family members? Does it put a target on the back of her colleagues and their families?

If it was me, and if I could, would I? Yes. Would my mother want me to pay for her remains if it potentially changed her grandchildren's lives forever and made their world a whole lot darker and smaller? No, absolutely not.
 
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I don’t mean this in the wrong way, but who was looking for Nancy being on a livestream church service. I understand that friends might look for each other in person, maybe to sit together or go to coffee after. Is it the same for virtual church?

And I wonder why Nancy wasn’t going to church in person. The fellowship and the feeling of togethership (especially during hymns) is something that many people especially enjoy. Did she miss it?

Was she avoiding anyone?
MOO but I would imagine there’s a small group of regular, virtual attendees. The video platform has a live chat function so it does seem like they encourage a digital “social aspect.” Maybe she usually texts with someone during the service? There’s a ton of reasons why her absence could have been noticed.
 
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I’m pretty sure at this point because I’ve been trying to place it all day and couldn’t until now. This isn’t a great pic (source Fox News drone) but it’s the hvac and wall that didn’t match with NG house. Other source is Google Maps. NG’s property is immaculate. The other is messy.
Tricia has posted recently reminding all of us that, when posting a still from news video, the link to the video itself should be posted as well as the time stamp of the still taken from the video. Would very much appreciate that information.
 
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I mean this as a serious question because I'm very confused about all the comments that suggest the kidnapping and/or ransom demands are just a ruse to cover for the murder. I don't really understand what that means. How would further entangling yourself with a crime be helpful? It changes nothing.
 
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Given that the second ransom deadline is tomorrow, I'm sure there will be activity in the case and possible updates from LE.
Didn’t they say no press conference until Tuesday unless something significant happens?
 
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Why isn’t Savannah wearing her wedding band in yesterday’s short video?
Many people choose to remove wedding bands temporarily for all sorts of reasons (e.g. playing sports). Perhaps she left it at home and did not want to travel with it. Not massively relevant to the case tbh.
 

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