AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[CrimeDawg123]

She has sensationalized the story, she has not offered a single ounce of empathy or sorrow for someone who was once her former colleague, she has allowed unfounded speculation to run riot. I don't doubt she is "reporting the story" but it is undignified the way she has carried on when most of SG's colleagues are giving her some dignity and space right now.

And exploiting being friends with SG to somehow give her the excuse to throw SG's brother in law under the bus.

 

[redflag71]

Who thinks that this elderly lady is still alive?

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

The Sheriff in the first Tuesday press conference when asked if he had talked to the people who reported her missing,
The Sheriff started to answer, "that's the family." But the reporter was still asking the question right when he answered that... so the reporter was asking, "have you talked to the people who reported her missing, the church people?" And then the Sheriff caught that part, so his answer was, "Oh, from the church as well. We're doing all kinds of interviews. Yes, I'm sure we have."

But... if you read it back, he's actually not specifically saying the sheriff's office DID in fact speak with anyone at the church. He said, "Yes, I'm sure we have" but in a way like well of course we would. But, it's possible there is some miscommunication here or why wouldn't he be have memory of this conversation.

Exactly. Thanks, Shadows, for going back over the transcript and clarifying this.

LE did talk with the pastor, but that's a whole different interview than talking with a church member who reported to the family that she wasn't in church. MO

 

[SMK777]

The Sheriff in the first Tuesday press conference when asked if he had talked to the people who reported her missing,
The Sheriff started to answer, "that's the family." But the reporter was still asking the question right when he answered that... so the reporter was asking, "have you talked to the people who reported her missing, the church people?" And then the Sheriff caught that part, so his answer was, "Oh, from the church as well. We're doing all kinds of interviews. Yes, I'm sure we have."

But... if you read it back, he's actually not specifically saying the sheriff's office DID in fact speak with anyone at the church. He said, "Yes, I'm sure we have" but in a way like well of course we would. But, it's possible there is some miscommunication here or why wouldn't he be have memory of this conversation.

Just as Richard Allen was not interviewed in the Delphi case.

The church phone call was removed from the timeline for a reason.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

We do not have any confirmed by LE information that the churchgoer has been identified or talked to or exists

oh wow... I certainly thought otherwise. tnx

 

[ldlager]

Do you do your job 24/7?

In times of crisis or urgent matters, yes I do.

 

[MommaV]

Im smelling exactly what u r stepping in...Great question.

I assumed it was not confirmed since it was not added to the timeline of events that’s been broadcasted and shown on this thread. It’s been left out.

 

[desert-blue]

I keep thinking about the garage door times. Those don't seem like estimates - they are very precise. Do they know these exact times from cameras at the house or did she have some sort of app or smart garage door opener? If it's the first, they would also have video of her being dropped off (which doesn't seem to be the case). If it's the latter, the garage could have been opened and closed remotely from anywhere. Those garage times don't mean much if that's the case. This, combined with the removal of the supposed call alerting them that NG wasn't at church, have me worried. It leaves a massive hole in the timeline.

 

[shonyakay]

I am not speaking about this case, but just about crime scene staging in general. This is when a domestic murder is staged as another type of crime committed by someone other than the family. Generally these families are amateurs. They make mistakes in the cover up and hoax. They base their staging on movies and books, not how LE actually works.

To answer your question, the perpetrators may have thought it would look suspicious to be the last person to see the victim alive, and the first person to find her missing. Someone from church making a call might sound like a better story.

Again I am not talking about this case specifically. But exploring the theory of crime scene staging.

A poster in here just posted a New York Times article that stated a churchgoer did call the family when they noticed Nancy wasn't in her pew. NYT is fairly legit.
I would believe them any day over DM.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

If you were just out of serious surgery maybe 2 hours ago and suddenly developed very serious complications, would you be ok if your surgeon, who was the leading surgeon and had the most intimate details of your case, didn’t help you because he went to a basketball game?

What?

 

[Cassie P]

I keep thinking though... how very lucky it is for them that she has not been found yet.

They gave the family a week. If they were using it as extortion, they have been VERY lucky that she has not been found. IF the perp (s) are not the same as the note senders... how would the note sender know they would have week? Must be a gambler IMO

Several possible explanations:

1. We are not looking at two separate crimes. The disappearance of NG and the RN extortion are somehow connected.

2. RN extortion people are opportunistic and figured they would try to turn a national news story into a personal pay day. They had nothing to lose by demanding a ransom for a kidnapping they did not commit. The hoped the wealthy family would immediately pay up,
It is a crime of opportunity, smash and grab. Demand the money and run.

 

[cady]

Who thinks that this elderly lady is still alive?

not me

 

[Vaderman]

But could the initial press conference be the most revealing for us? It was early on and maybe it is closer to the truth than subsequent statements / FBI involvement. I am going to go and re-watch it.

If you find it, could you link it? I've been trying to locate it but can only find the most recent one.

 

[MollyHarps]

Who thinks that this elderly lady is still alive?

Unfortunately not - I believe she was killed on the day of her disappearance.

I find the idea that people take a women in her 80s with a heart condition hostage completely unrealistic.

 

[shadowsc]

Just as Richard Allen was not interviewed in the Delphi case.

The church phone call was removed from the timeline for a reason.

I agree. The transcript from the press conference when the sheriff is giving the timeline jumps from the time the pacemaker was disconnected from the app:

Sherrif: 2:28, Nancy's Pacemaker app shows that it was a disconnect from the phone. And at 11:56 a.m., uh, the family checks on Nancy, discovers her missing, and at 12:03 p.m., 911 is called in to the Pima County Sheriff's Department. I believe it's about approximately 10 minutes later, 12 minutes later, our patrol teams arrive.

 

[Czechgirl]

Yes it’s here

Those look like condenser units (A/C). But who knows.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

The issue I am currently having is that the most critical chunk of the timeline depends almost solely on AG and TC. We're currently having to assume LE was able to verify who from church called and exactly when. And of course, any confirmation that they were home during the critical hours.

"Church member called family because she was concerned NG wasn't in church" is no longer on the LE timeline. Agree with Masked Woman that we are totally dependent on AG and TC for this critical part of the timeline.

 

[MollyHarps]

I’ve been away for the weekend without any signal (it’s probably a good thing as I think my husband would’ve filed for divorce if I kept checking on this thread!)

I am trying to catch up on the thread but there is over 300 new pages since I left - has there been any major developments since Thursday evening?

 

[maskedwoman]

Who carries maps anymore

I read earlier today that topographical maps, etc., use for searches are physical maps.

 

[abr]

100% premeditated… moo

Unless it was the gs.