Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Arkay]

Odd coincidence. On February 4,1974, 19-year-old heiress Patty Hearst was kidnapped from her Berkeley, California apartment by the Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA). They initially demanded 2MIO and then 4MIO more..That would be 6MIO .They did demanded the 6MIO of dollars to be provided in food to CA residents.

We know how it’s all ended. However, it’s also caused a huge media frenzy. The media extensively covered the unfolding drama, including the tapes released by the SLA and Hearst’s subsequent radicalization. Legal battles about book/movie rights later followed.

While I do not expect the societal rifts in the NG case or any food distribution, I can see a similar media frenzy ensuing during which some of the bigger TV stations may be offering big money for future licensing fees (interviews, videos, photographs etc.).

Thoughts?

Prayers for Mrs Guthrie,
Nin

I’m not sure if I agree.

Patty Hearst’s situation ended up with her alive and home. The radicalization of a young heiress added the drama. We weren’t really very familiar with Stockholm Syndrome until that case, IIRC.

If Nancy does not come home alive and unharmed, I don’t think there will be a media frenzy to obtain the rights, or at least I hope not.

Savannah is on the front lines of American media. I would hope her journalistic colleagues on “bigger TV stations” would not use her mother’s tragedy for publicity or monetary gain. To capitalize on their colleague’s pain would be dreadful and too close to home within the world of TV.

There is absolutely no way, IMO, that Savannah would sell the rights for the worst tragedy that is tormenting her and her family.

Although you may very well be right that the media will try.

Not NBC, though.

JMO

 

[Van Helsing]

But then they just left with one little paper sack. If they found anything, I'd have thought we'd see more activity, the house torn apart, and more things removed.

Shoes?

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

I imagine with the thick brush and hilly region, if a home in prox. to NG did have a camera facing the road, getting a well detailed view will be challenging.. I spent waaaay to much time this monring scouring a 2-4 mile radius around NG's home, and only a few could've "possibly" seen something. Otherwise the brush or a hill was blocking the view.

I'm still curious if LE reached out to the delivery driver, and secured the picture taken.

The houses are set back from the road and many of the ring cameras would likely not see anything.

 

[shadowsc]

Apols if this has been raised (I’m sure it has). Surely other houses on that road have smart door bells. Have LE not yet released the car seen driving in the area at 2:30am ish, when I presume the roads would otherwise be very quiet?

The houses are pretty set back and away from the road. I can't remember if it was the sheriff or a news guy, but he was on one of the news shows and talking about how the setting makes it harder to investigate certain kinds of crimes. That they have to get creative in other ways, because door cameras don't pick up much from the road. Not the way same way that in other neighborhoods that cameras may catch something across the street, etc.

 

[slowpoke]

Ive listened to a few CSI people talk about that blood, they all-seem to think that there is no directionality to the drops, like as if the person was stopped there for a period of time and the drops just went straight down.
Ed Wallace ( from the duty ron channel) a former csi and Also trains CSI’s all over the world spoke on the spot that looks like aspirated blood, He said to test if it was aspirated , it would have amylase in it. Swab it and test for amylase.I dont know if they did that tho.
AI definition:
expirated blood (blood forced from the nose, mouth, or lungs) commonly contains salivary amylase. This is because the blood mixes with saliva while being coughed, sneezed, or forced out of the mouth.

Your last part wrenches my heart so much, because in my mind I picture NG so afraid, injured —and crying (to cough up mucus along with the blood).
Moo

 

[ttjo]

yes, like I said the news outlet is the one getting the emails,I can bet that LE,FBI has the steering wheel on this one . In fact I wouldn't be surprised id LE wasn't sitting very close to her.
If we just heard , another email was sent, and nothing follows , we would all go insane.
She did differentiate the difference between this email and the other.
Her job as a reporter in this situation has to be really hard and she can't do it without help from LE.

And I agree, she did establish that this note was shorter. The new note should have contained info about A. proof of life and B ways to communicate . Thats what the family asked for.

She sounded like the letter writers gave proof that they are the same people that wrote the first letter.
Maybe they said, we already gave you direction , you had 2 deadlines and you’ve missed one, instructions are simple, deposit the money or its game over.??? Probably didnt even offer an explanation about why they wont send proof of life And the family may have said “we understand? “
And maybe they told them where to find something that would prove its really them , like a watch? Or the contents of an amazon pkg. Totally speculating.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020651632166572101

I'd love to know what Brian has shared here. The link doesn't work for me, I assume because I don't have Twitter. Is it an article or a video?

 

[TheDinks]

I'd expect that a concerned person from church would first try to contact NG before contacting NG's relatives. Maybe LE has the same expectation & failed to find evidence of such a contact on NG's phone.

Oh absolutely, I'd imagine whomever missed her tried calling her phone first, got no response and then called family.

As others have posted, said friend is likely to have been in regular contact with Ms Guthrie and arranged "see you then" which would have been why it was odd she wasn't there.... then didn't answer her phone... Naturally, when you have an elderly friend with heart/mobility issues etc. you will check to see they're okay when a meeting is missed.

 

[SRWCF]

Yes 11am, that was what I meant by morning. Without an 11am call what would be the reasoning why AG arrived at 11:56am to find her mom gone?

So, my Mom used to live near me. She is also elderly and doesn't always answer her phone. I've brushed it off as maybe she was grocery shopping, or outside gardening, or at a neighbor's house, etc. I then would call several more times. About 30 to 45 mins of not being able to get ahold of her, only then would I drive to her house. AG and TC have 2 kids and lives of their own. They also likely couldn't just drop everything ASAP to rush over the moment after they got the call.

 

[SMK777]

I'd love to know what Brian has shared here. The link doesn't work for me, I assume because I don't have Twitter. Is it an article or a video?

It's a video. Haven't watched it yet myself.
Here it is:

 

[TheDinks]

I'd love to know what Brian has shared here. The link doesn't work for me, I assume because I don't have Twitter. Is it an article or a video?

He has a video on YouTube, good work, as usual

 

[SRWCF]

I'd love to know what Brian has shared here. The link doesn't work for me, I assume because I don't have Twitter. Is it an article or a video?

Go to Nitter and type in Brian's user name. You can view it there without an X account.

 

[Deleted member 178756]

DBM

 

[Cassie P]

I was thinking.. $6 million is a oddly specific number. Why not $10 million? or more. Especially in bitcoin.

Perhaps it has something to do with the exchange rate of bitcoin? Or rules and regulations about bitcoin? IDK, someone with knowledge about that end of things would have to chime it.

Someone else here suggested SG's employer might have death/kidnap insurance on their TV celebrities. Maybe the extortionists did their homework and it is tied into that somehow.

Or they know SG's cash liquidity.

IDK just guessing.

SG is wealthy for sure, but not super rich. If she is worth $40 million, $10 million is a big chunk of her wealth. Maybe they thought $6 million was more apt to be paid.

 

[mikeshanty]

I'd love to know what Brian has shared here. The link doesn't work for me, I assume because I don't have Twitter. Is it an article or a video?

I just watched it. Interview the ex-detective is quite interesting. Some information about crime patterns in the local area. He says if it is a kidnapping, it's professionally done and possibly cartel activity. Answers some questions about what they could have been doing inside AG's house last night.

 

[Charlot123]

This has probably been posted, but thread is moving so fast, I'm posting just in case, bbm:

The authors of Nancy Guthrie’s ransom note may have exposed themselves as operating outside the US because of one tiny detail in their note – a specification that their multi-million dollar demands be paid out in US dollars, law enforcement experts think.

“Why would you use that if you’re a domestic person? That points to somebody who might be potentially outside the country, which also lends the potential for this being a scam,” former FBI agent Michael Harrigan told The Post.

“If you’re domestic, why would you ever put ‘USD?’ You put six million,” he added.

Savannah Guthrie missing mom live updates: The tiny detail in the Nancy Guthrie ransom note that makes FBI experts think the writers aren’t even in US

Follow the Post’s live updates for the latest news on Savannah Guthrie’s missing mom and the investigation to find Nancy Guthrie, who was last seen on January 31.

nypost.com

I already wrote about it but boy, all I can say is that the “experts” never traveled even to Canada, lol!

Do they know how many countries in the world use dollars as currency? I would definitely put US dollar. I live in the US but from one travel to Australia when US/AU dollar was favorable to me, I learned.

There probably would be other reasons to suspect a person living outside the US, but not “US dollar”.

I think 6 mln might come from 5 mln to the ones who “abducted” NG plus 1 mln “commission” to the crypto-guy.

JMO:

I am thinking that a teenager playing computer games can easily make friends in Saudi Arabia or India or the Emirates, and all these kids may know more about cybersecurity or cryptocurrency than adults. So perhaps LE has to interview some teenagers around NG.

 

[waldojabba]

But then they just left with one little paper sack. If they found anything, I'd have thought we'd see more activity, the house torn apart, and more things removed.

On the latest Brian Entin vid I posted upthread he was chatting with a former 20 yr veteran of the Tucson police force.
The former LE said basically that anything could be in that bag. If LE had any trash they would also bring it out in a paper bag like that too.
He also said LE probably should have processed Annie’s house the same day they processed the Mom’s. But a lot of veteran LE retired and the force is made up with a few long timers but also a lot of rookies.
JMO

 

[mikeshanty]

I forgot to mention this the other day, but I noticed on Google Maps that AG's address appeared blurred out on Google Maps. At least, the address I found publicly online. I wasn't sure if it was the exact same house though; I tried to match it against the photos of the house, but I'm not 100%.

 

[cckp72]

The video is a tour of the home that was listed for sale a year ago

But why is it relevant?

 

[Strangeworld]

The video is a tour of the home that was listed for sale a year ago

I'm confused, is it empty now, was that why it was suggested to be looked at?