AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[shonyakay]

Was it not said she was doing online bible study with the church not a sermon per se that she missed ,maybe some one with better recall can clarify this .

650 odd pages in I'm losing my marbles

Daily Mail said in one article early on that Nancy didn't physically attend church since the COVID era.

The New York Times stated in an article today that a church member from Nancy's church notified family members when she wasn't sitting in her pew.

 

[mikeshanty]

When his arrest was announced it was also said he had emailed them and there was a 9 second phone call to AG phone. This now makes sense.

Hmm right, but why go so fast with an arrest of the "hoaxer" before going in on AG and SIL?

 

[txsleuth70]

Can someone explain the significance of this? I'm not getting it?

It's in response to the idea that the fake ransomer who was arrested allegedly may be tied to AG/TC!! It's coming together.

 

[emigrate]

No no that clears it up! Thank you! So potentially multiple individuals involved. But was the "hoaxer" charged with anything beyond malicious communications?

That has not been talked about. Mostly it was made to seem like he was just some random person who was trolling but I felt like there was more to it. I hope this week finally brings answers, this is so confusing for the public. They must have it under control because they don't care if we are confused. If they needed the publics help they would be more forthcoming with truth and real info.

 

[mikeshanty]

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Daily Mail said in one article early on that Nancy didn't physically attend church since the COVID area.

The New York Times stated in an article today that a church member from Nancy's church notified family members when she wasn't sitting in her pew.

This is why I made the point in an earlier post (removed) about the credibility of The Daily Mail. It is not in the same league as the NYT. Apologies if this post has to be removed (mods please feel free to remove it), but I think credibility of sources is now very relevant here because of this gaping inconsistency in the timeline.

 

[txsleuth70]

Oh right. But if it was a fake ransom hoax, why would they suspect AG and TC?

Because it was determined he had also emailed them and called their phone. Surmised asking if the bitcoin had been deposited. Like he had a part in it with them.

 

[emigrate]

When his arrest was announced it was also said he had emailed them and there was a 9 second phone call to AG phone. This now makes sense.

This really makes me think tommorrow we are going to hear something or see something, I hope.

 

[txsleuth70]

Hmm right, but why go so fast with an arrest of the "hoaxer" before going in on AG and SIL?

Because they traced his IP address right away because he was dumb enough to send unsecured.

 

[iluvmyelement]

Hmm right, but why go so fast with an arrest of the "hoaxer" before going in on AG and SIL?

To see if he will squeal in custody and not jeopardize the whole investigation? He has been released on bail and the former LE guys on youtube are saying that LE is likely trailing him for further evidence.

 

[gammagirl]

The text message from the fake "ransom" person was sent to AG and TC and said "Did you get the bitcoin?" (and then something about them not seeing the transaction yet) but did not mention NG - so the detectives on youtube thought that this prompted LE to go back to AG's home to look for further evidence (potentially other contact with this individual .... it should also be noted this guy was in a band in SoCal).

I did not hear about a text to AG and TC... "Did you get the bitcoin". This seems significant as I theorized that perhaps there was several parties involved. When did this happen? Do they know who sent the text? The person was in a band in SoCal...do we know the name of the band? Did the authorities find out about this?? Someone take pity on this working gal and fill me in please...

 

[mikeshanty]

That has not been talked about. Mostly it was made to seem like he was just some random person who was trolling but I felt like there was more to it. I hope this week finally brings answers, this is so confusing for the public. They must have it under control because they don't care if we are confused. If they needed the publics help they would be more forthcoming with truth and real info.

Thanks. I just read the following though: "[Hoaxer] is not linked to the Bitcoin ransom demand, according to the complaint."

 

[TheDinks]

Same reason a homicide team showed up to a “missing person” call. IMO

IIRC they called off the search. Were there K-9 units tracking Nancy’s scent? An organized volunteer search? Did officers fan out from the last place she was seen and perform a grid search?

I think there was undeniable evidence of violence in that house and LE knew it was very unlikely that NG was going to be alive for long, if at all.MOO

I thought that too... reading between the lines of what Sheriff Nanos said they found at the house... he projected in a way that appeared to signal why homicide team was called in.

Which then, of course, contradicts his assertions a few days later when he stated she was still with us etc... although that could have been for the benefit of keeping the family's hopes alive.

 

[emigrate]

Because they traced his IP address right away because he was dumb enough to send unsecured.

nice

 

[Seni]

Because it was determined he had also emailed them and called their phone. Surmised asking if the bitcoin had been deposited. Like he had a part in it with them.

Link pls!

 

[SRWCF]

Wouldn’t the insurance just be on Savannah herself though, like if she were kidnapped? I doubt it would cover anyone besides their key employees but I don’t know.

Yes, kidnapping and extortion insurance only covers employees and only while they are working. Like a reporter going to a warzone and subsequently getting kidnapped.

 

[iluvmyelement]

I did not hear about a text to AG and TC... "Did you get the bitcoin". This seems significant as I theorized that perhaps there was several parties involved. When did this happen? Do they know who sent the text? The person was in a band in SoCal...do we know the name of the band? Did the authorities find out about this?? Someone take pity on this working gal and fill me in please...

This is being discussed here

but if you google the court records, you can see the exact text sent to AG and TC and that it was sent via VOIP.

 

[Charlot123]

Someone said you cannot see the names in the livestream and there is not chat area to say hello or fellowship

Are you sure?
Not in church, but on conferences the system is used all the time. You just have to download it once. I assume it is cheap. Again, you see who signs in and comments, and if I typed, happy b-day and the person didn’t answer, I’d think, darn, we have flu going on! Is she OK? Just call her to check and maybe text her family.
Heck, if I heard in the church that she just had a b-day, I’d call and my first thought would be about the flu. So I’d call the family just because. It may not be a red flag yet.

 

[mikeshanty]

Link pls!

Man arrested for demanding Bitcoin ransom from Guthrie family

The man allegedly used an app to create a fake phone number to text the family, according to a federal complaint.

abc7news.com

 

[maskedwoman]

I can't imagine going thru this kind of week without my husband at my side. Haven't heard whether Camron is married (?) but I'm surprised SG's husband isnt there. Kids, school, work, I know, but come on - this is a traumatic life event for SG.

I don't think we can make assumptions about what's going on behind the scenes. The kids may be traumatized too and need one of their parents there. Without knowing whether it's a real kidnapping or not, would you leave your kids behind with anyone BUT your husband to supervise their care and safety? I sure wouldn't.

 

[txsleuth70]

I did not hear about a text to AG and TC... "Did you get the bitcoin". This seems significant as I theorized that perhaps there was several parties involved. When did this happen? Do they know who sent the text? The person was in a band in SoCal...do we know the name of the band? Did the authorities find out about this?? Someone take pity on this working gal and fill me in please...

The fake ransom guy who was arrested and the SoCal band guy are one and the same. He had also emailed and texted AG/TC.