AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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because it is his bandmate, I wish they would just put it out tommorrow what they have, I am sure the SIL is officially cooked now
Is this confirmed that the arrested individual is his band mate?!?
 
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dbm
 
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I don’t think the hoaxer emailing/texting/calling AG or TC means that they are complicit. It’s soooo easy to find ppl’s contact info online. I think we’re veering way off the path here.
IMO.
 
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+eTo see if he will squeal in custody and not jeopardize the whole investigation? He has been released on bail and the former LE guys on youtube are saying that LE is likely trailing him for further eviden

because it is his bandmate, I wish they would just put it out tommorrow what they have, I am sure the SIL is officially cooked now
Don't you think the federal government would have figured that out if true?
 
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I don’t think the hoaxer emailing/texting/calling AG or TC means that they are complicit. It’s soooo easy to find ppl’s contact info online. I think we’re veering way off the path here.
IMO.
Yeh, that's what I was thinking and was very confused by this line of thought.
 
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because it is his bandmate, I wish they would just put it out tommorrow what they have, I am sure the SIL is officially cooked now
Do you have a source that Callela is SIL's bandmate?
 
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Three potential scenarios that creep in from time to time -

My hunch is that an obsessive fan of SG, likely unknown to her or her handlers, meticulously planned all of this because of a perceived slight/rejection. Planned potentially for years, but could've also occurred when she aired the "Coming Home" special highlighting her family and city.

Second thought is an old middle school/high school/college classmate, likely an introvert not really adept at girls (but a whiz in the classroom), who secretly idolized and obsessed over getting her attention but never did. Likewise, a perceived slight or rejection occurred at some point along the way.

A girl, much like the classmate above, secretly longed for acceptance from cliques but it never occurred and never has occurred.

JMO.
 
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I was just re-reading the DC complaint. It's a short document. Everyone should read it to have first-hand information rather than just relying on recaps from others.

I don't find this to be compelling evidence that DC was working with AG or TC. I think it's just clumsy wording of a demand for bitcoin. This does not look like a smoking gun to me at all, IMO.

Also, I notice that it says, "On the morning of February 1, 2026, a friend of N.G.'s contacted the victim's family and notified them that N.G. had not attended church that morning." Criminal complaints are of course not perfect documents, but I'd be somewhat surprised if this detail was included without them being fairly sure it's true as of the time of writing (Thursday, Feb 5). I continue to be somewhat skeptical of the church member phone call, but this is evidence in favor of it having happened, and being left off of the sheriff's timeline for some other reason. MOO.
 
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because it is his bandmate, I wish they would just put it out tommorrow what they have, I am sure the SIL is officially cooked now
The guy they arrested is not tc’s bandmate. There was another person with a criminal record who IS on his band that people were speculating about-but they are two different people I believe.
 
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I've been thinking about the video that was released where all of Nancys kids were filmed. That video was from inside AGs house. Do you think LE wanted them to film the video in that house so they could get a little peek at the house before getting a warrant to look closer?
 
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That's my question. What prompted AG to go to her moms house that day. I haven't read anything so far thats a confirmed fact.
That's my question, too. Why did she go other there? If she told LE that it was for the purported reason we've heard that a family member said (eg church member called her because she was concerned mom wasn't at church), that's a huge red flag.

And AG would know that her mother didn't go to church in-person so this adds to the strangeness. Doesn't make sense she would have said something that even she knew couldn't be true. Unless family members were so got off guard coming up with a reason why they were at NG's that they just blurted out the first thing that came to their mind.

LE reported that it was obvious immediately that this wasn't a missing person's case and that it was the scene of a crime. MO
 
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because it is his bandmate, I wish they would just put it out tommorrow what they have, I am sure the SIL is officially cooked now
Where did you see this or are you assuming?
 
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Three potential scenarios that creep in from time to time -

My hunch is that an obsessive fan of SG, likely unknown to her or her handlers, meticulously planned all of this because of a perceived slight/rejection. Planned potentially for years, but could've also occurred when she aired the "Coming Home" special highlighting her family and city.

Second thought is an old middle school/high school/college classmate, likely an introvert not really adept at girls (but a whiz in the classroom), who secretly idolized and obsessed over getting her attention. Likewise, a perceived slight or rejection occurred at some point along the way.

A girl, much like the classmate above, secretly longed for acceptance from cliques but it never occurred and never has occurred.

JMO.
Okay, but SG is 54. Some of these theories imply they waited approximately 35-40 years to strike?
 
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because it is his bandmate, I wish they would just put it out tommorrow what they have, I am sure the SIL is officially cooked now
I'm sorry, I might've missed something, but what do you mean? Are you suggesting the guy in CA that was arrested for the fake ransom/texting AG & TC, is in TC's band? If so, can you link to a source please?
 
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because it is his bandmate, I wish they would just put it out tommorrow what they have, I am sure the SIL is officially cooked now
How do you know this? I’ve been trying to keep up.
 
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Wait, what?! The hoaxer is SIL's bandmate?!
Nope there's no evidence of that at all. We really need to be careful because this is how crazy rumors start
 
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The congregation of NG's church seems to be rather large judging by their FB page, and they also seem to heavily advertise their online services on their website. It seems very odd to me that anyone would think twice if NG missed a single online service. Edit: I just read In the criminal complaint against the fake ransom person that it was a friend of hers who called the family out of concern, so I guess it makes sense for her friend to call.
 
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My mom takes them out to charge at night.
This is one of the last things I do at night and I always tell my husband I'm going into the muffled zone so if he wants to say anything important, do so before they come out.
 
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Same type of music as TC's band.
I wonder if they ever played at the same venue.

This is crazy speculation but I found myself wondering if he somehow sent his text to the wrong numbers by mistake. He says, iirc, do you have the bitcoin yet? We are waiting on our end.
 

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