AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Toodles5000]

I don’t think the hoaxer emailing/texting/calling AG or TC means that they are complicit. It’s soooo easy to find ppl’s contact info online. I think we’re veering way off the path here.
IMO.

 

[Recidivist]

+eTo see if he will squeal in custody and not jeopardize the whole investigation? He has been released on bail and the former LE guys on youtube are saying that LE is likely trailing him for further eviden

because it is his bandmate, I wish they would just put it out tommorrow what they have, I am sure the SIL is officially cooked now

Don't you think the federal government would have figured that out if true?

 

[mikeshanty]

I don’t think the hoaxer emailing/texting/calling AG or TC means that they are complicit. It’s soooo easy to find ppl’s contact info online. I think we’re veering way off the path here.
IMO.

Yeh, that's what I was thinking and was very confused by this line of thought.

 

[SlimPickens]

Three potential scenarios that creep in from time to time -

My hunch is that an obsessive fan of SG, likely unknown to her or her handlers, meticulously planned all of this because of a perceived slight/rejection. Planned potentially for years, but could've also occurred when she aired the "Coming Home" special highlighting her family and city.

Second thought is an old middle school/high school/college classmate, likely an introvert not really adept at girls (but a whiz in the classroom), who secretly idolized and obsessed over getting her attention but never did. Likewise, a perceived slight or rejection occurred at some point along the way.

A girl, much like the classmate above, secretly longed for acceptance from cliques but it never occurred and never has occurred.

JMO.

 

[HoveringWombats]

I was just re-reading the DC complaint. It's a short document. Everyone should read it to have first-hand information rather than just relying on recaps from others.

I don't find this to be compelling evidence that DC was working with AG or TC. I think it's just clumsy wording of a demand for bitcoin. This does not look like a smoking gun to me at all, IMO.

Also, I notice that it says, "On the morning of February 1, 2026, a friend of N.G.'s contacted the victim's family and notified them that N.G. had not attended church that morning." Criminal complaints are of course not perfect documents, but I'd be somewhat surprised if this detail was included without them being fairly sure it's true as of the time of writing (Thursday, Feb 5). I continue to be somewhat skeptical of the church member phone call, but this is evidence in favor of it having happened, and being left off of the sheriff's timeline for some other reason. MOO.

 

[Fascinated1]

because it is his bandmate, I wish they would just put it out tommorrow what they have, I am sure the SIL is officially cooked now

The guy they arrested is not tc’s bandmate. There was another person with a criminal record who IS on his band that people were speculating about-but they are two different people I believe.

 

[jellybean96]

I've been thinking about the video that was released where all of Nancys kids were filmed. That video was from inside AGs house. Do you think LE wanted them to film the video in that house so they could get a little peek at the house before getting a warrant to look closer?

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

That's my question. What prompted AG to go to her moms house that day. I haven't read anything so far thats a confirmed fact.

That's my question, too. Why did she go other there? If she told LE that it was for the purported reason we've heard that a family member said (eg church member called her because she was concerned mom wasn't at church), that's a huge red flag.

And AG would know that her mother didn't go to church in-person so this adds to the strangeness. Doesn't make sense she would have said something that even she knew couldn't be true. Unless family members were so got off guard coming up with a reason why they were at NG's that they just blurted out the first thing that came to their mind.

LE reported that it was obvious immediately that this wasn't a missing person's case and that it was the scene of a crime. MO

 

[mikeshanty]

Three potential scenarios that creep in from time to time -

My hunch is that an obsessive fan of SG, likely unknown to her or her handlers, meticulously planned all of this because of a perceived slight/rejection. Planned potentially for years, but could've also occurred when she aired the "Coming Home" special highlighting her family and city.

Second thought is an old middle school/high school/college classmate, likely an introvert not really adept at girls (but a whiz in the classroom), who secretly idolized and obsessed over getting her attention. Likewise, a perceived slight or rejection occurred at some point along the way.

A girl, much like the classmate above, secretly longed for acceptance from cliques but it never occurred and never has occurred.

JMO.

Okay, but SG is 54. Some of these theories imply they waited approximately 35-40 years to strike?

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZ]

The congregation of NG's church seems to be rather large judging by their FB page, and they also seem to heavily advertise their online services on their website. It seems very odd to me that anyone would think twice if NG missed a single online service. Edit: I just read In the criminal complaint against the fake ransom person that it was a friend of hers who called the family out of concern, so I guess it makes sense for her friend to call.

 

[LRinCA]

My mom takes them out to charge at night.

This is one of the last things I do at night and I always tell my husband I'm going into the muffled zone so if he wants to say anything important, do so before they come out.

 

[DS2021]

Dbm

 

[SlimPickens]

Okay, but SG is 54. Some of these theories imply they waited approximately 35-40 years to strike?

Triggers and significant life stressors happen at all times of human development. Someone could've lost a parent, for example.

JMO.

 

[annie1038]

Hello! First time posting so please excuse any mistakes I make. I’m confused by the bloodstains on the porch. From what I saw it looked like the blood droplets were going toward the door and then spatter to the side of the door. If they were exiting through the front door it would seem difficult to open and close both doors while also taking a bloodied NG with you. Could she have been going toward the door instead and was stopped by someone? Admittedly I have no idea how blood spatter works I just think with my own doors how difficult it would be to exit through them and leave a mark like that. Although I guess the blood would be smeared had she been moving towards it. Again, sorry it’s just been bugging me all day and I’m overwhelmed with so much information and I’m just confused.

The blood spatters in the front have bothered me a lot. There is no "movement" to them. They don't seem to come from the door or entryway, or proceed down the path. They seem static. I cannot envision a scenario of a bleeding human that would create such a pattern.

 

[LAhiker]

Derrick Callella, who was arrested for the obviously fake ransom demand, is based in the Los Angeles area. He was previously arrested for embezzlement.
Who Is Derrick Callella? Everything to Know About the California Man Arrested for Nancy Guthrie Ransom Texts

I think the SIL's band is based in Tucson. There is no evidence of a link between Callella and the SIL's band.

JMO

 

[SRWCF]

I’ve posted this before, but it seems you can chat.
See screenshot from church’s site:

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Vimeo is like YouTube. You can live stream and have a chat going on simultaneously.

 

[slowpoke]

I just feel it is much less likely someone in a live stream would notice and question a specific person not in attendance. Much less likely than an in-person service. Too many people, too much going on. I don't think I ever spend much time thinking about who and who isn't attending an online meeting.

Well, I don’t know if she went in-person or not, but I imagine if she regularly did participate in the live-streaming chat thing, she would log in and say hello to her friends there. Especially if she was a long-time member, which I thought she was.
Just my opinion

 

[whitelilac]

I find it curious that AG and SIL would make up the churchgoer's communication as a reason why they went back to check on Nancy. They have to KNOW that NG no longer, since Covid, attends the church in person.
Would have been much more credible if they simply said they went back because NG left an item at dinner or some such.

Plus, the absence of communication is traceable.

 

[Kemug]

Im finding it really hard to believe a kidnapper would take such a risk in the regard that this lady due to advanced age could just literally drop dead of heart attack or no meds in a period of sooner time than given for ransom payment. Plus, liquidating assets in amounts of $6 millie can take up to 10 business days with a bank as they place "holds" on large transfers, even for rich people. So, here's this "mastermind" we are supposed to believe overlooked 2 critical components of this mastermind plan. Im sorry, im calling bs.

People of that age don't consider 84 to be "advanced age" , that's in your 90's. If you're counting on inheriting soon you will probably be disappointed.

 

[keek]

DBM