AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[PacoElFlaco]

Omg! "The Desperate Hour is a 2021 thrill film directed by Phillip Noyce and written by Chris Sparling It stars Naomi Watts as a woman who is desperately racing to save her child after police place her hometown on lockdown due to an active shooter incident." Source: Wikipedia

Didn't the Ramsay case "ransom note" also have all kinds of movie references, like to Dirty Harry and other crime films?

 

[txsleuth70]

DBM

 

[RayVon]

It would still be circumstantial evidence.

But it could possibly lead to suspects.

 

[Melisende10]

And lets not forget how the ransom note said USD for currency which made investigators think they are outside of US. So are we even talking US time? This case is so next level out there.

I would think it would mean if anything that they are in the US.

Usually when people send/receive bitcoin, you would say either the bitcoin amount but more commonly the amount in USD. When you send there are usually 2 options, you either fill in the USD amount or the bitcoin amount. However, I don't know if you are abroad and using a different currency if it would allow you to put it that currency. I just checked my own wallet and I only have 2 options like I said. No options to enter any other currency.

 

[Sundog]

For some reason, I feel like it was already paid.

It's very possible. A significant surge of energy can come from having made a major decision like that, it's done, and people can experience relief and have renewed energy. I think we see that in Savannah today. Make-up on, head held high, energy to continue the fight to find her mom.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

Law enforcement have the wallet address and they have not released it. Why? Because some idiots would deposit money in it for fun and could mess up the trail.

Yes I understand that part of it - it just seems crazy to me that anyone can access the wallet to see how much is in there. I thought it would be like a bank account where you have to enter your password to see your balance.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020961971114475943

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Just Googled as I'm Canadian... AZ has the death penalty and possibly for kidnapping resulting in death sounds like.

Do they think the perp skipped state to avoid that if getting caught? I guess they could still get brought back to AZ for trial?

 

[shonyakay]

Exact wording from last Thursday's press conference:

"Right now, I have no plans to schedule any further press conferences unless we have some real evidence or something to bring up to you. It's pretty pointless to just keep hounding the same things over and over..." No mention of next Thursday at all. Unless it was earlier and I missed/forgot (I did watch the whole thing live, but obviously a lot has happened since then).

Sorry, I am not at all trying to pick on you!!! Just want to make sure we're not perpetuating misinformation accidentally, so I've been trying to be better about continuing to refer back to the actual sources whenever possible. There's so much info flying around, it's very hard to keep track.

Link to the exact part of the press conference:

I made a mistake about which church Nancy attended and as soon as I was informed I rectified it. If that is the case here I will do the same. I never want to spread misinformation. That helps no one.
I know without a doubt he made the comment about not having another presser until Thursday but I suppose I could have been mistaken about which presser he said it at.
When I have time I will track it down and get back to you.

 

[mikeshanty]

Didn't the Ramsay case "ransom note" also have all kinds of movie references, like to Dirty Harry and other crime films?

SG also uses the phrase "This darkest place". "The Darkest Place" is a movie that involves a teenage girl whose disappearance leads her friends and family into disarray. The killer, called "The Shadow," lurks across the small town of "West Haven," where everyone is a potential victim. Source: IMBD.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Omg! "The Desperate Hour is a 2021 thrill film directed by Phillip Noyce and written by Chris Sparling It stars Naomi Watts as a woman who is desperately racing to save her child after police place her hometown on lockdown due to an active shooter incident." Source: Wikipedia

Oh hadn't heard of this one. Only the 90s one I posted about. I wonder how many others there are lol...

 

[Inthedetails]

Didn't the Ramsay case "ransom note" also have all kinds of movie references, like to Dirty Harry and other crime films?

I think the Daybell case did, but that didn't involve ransom notes.

jmo

 

[RayVon]

I wonder if SG was more put together and made up today because she's been in meetings with her banks and lawyers all day to get the money?

She is desperately mustering up courage and maybe hope.

 

[Cassie P]

This makes sense.

She could be dropped off at a rest area, a gas station, a hospital - any number of places. I suppose anywhere they've determined isn't monitored by a camera. Even by the side of the road.

This makes more sense than perps transporting an elderly kidnap victim who is highly identifiable.

 

[desert-blue]

I don’t think anyone knows if she’s actually married or not

GenLookups.com - Arizona - Pima County Brides - Page 16

I apologize if someone has already answered this, but they did get a marriage license in 2006.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Didn't the Ramsay case "ransom note" also have all kinds of movie references, like to Dirty Harry and other crime films?

Might have and I think there was big clues in Zodiac's letters relating to theatre.

 

[RayVon]

I got a sense that SG is taking matters into her own hands now and is fed up of LE.

Seriously, how can we be getting this from SG but absolutely nothing from LE?! With no perp, what are they doing all day?

I agree.

 

[Inthedetails]

I agree.

FWIW, the brother also released a solo video a few days ago.

jmo

 

[AFTF]

Interesting comment, thanks.
Might be relevant.
This case is crazy back and forth in the possibilities of the perps.

Might be family.

Might be staff of Nancy's who were in charge of yardwork, kitchen/cooking, cleaning, etc.

One possibility I'm not convinced of yet, is a random passerby who knew somehow that Nancy lived alone and took advantage of an elderly woman -- because--what would they gain by taking her with them, as opposed to a smash & grab ?

That bit (pun intended) about the bitcoin/cryptocurrency able to be tracked was new to me !
Now am back to considering the employees who may have been casing Nancy's house.
Omo.

I agree, the case keeps shifting because there are still a lot of unknowns, and without one confirmed anchor point everything remains open.

From a behavioral standpoint, opportunistic “random passerby” scenarios usually aim for speed and low risk, such as a quick theft. Taking a person dramatically increases risk, time, and exposure, so in most cases there is usually some perceived value, motive, or prior awareness involved. That does not automatically mean someone close, but it often suggests some level of knowledge about routines, vulnerability, or environment.

When people look at staff or familiar individuals, it is usually because those roles naturally have visibility into daily patterns, timing, and household details. However, that alone is not evidence, just one of several possibilities investigators typically examine early in a case.

On the cryptocurrency point, many people are surprised by that. Bitcoin transactions are permanently recorded on a public ledger. Investigators do not “break” Bitcoin, they follow the flow. In many past cases, funds believed to be hidden were eventually linked once they touched exchanges, services, or a real world identity. The technology itself often is not what exposes someone, it is a small human or behavioral connection.

Right now it feels like the case is waiting on one verified detail that will narrow the field significantly. Until that appears, multiple paths remain possible.

 

[LRinCA]

It's very possible. A significant surge of energy can come from having made a major decision like that, it's done, and people can experience relief and have renewed energy. I think we see that in Savannah today. Make up on, head held high, energy to continue the fight to find her mom.

Also, she's had a week with this - to get used to the reality of what's happened and formulate a plan of action. She is an attorney by training and obviously a very intelligent person. I would guess that as the shock begins to wear off (somewhat) the critical thinking skills soar.

"she graduated magna c-u-m laude in 2002. She received the highest score on the Arizona Bar exam in the year she took it, according to Washingtonian magazine."

Savannah Guthrie - Wikipedia

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