AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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If there was anything to actually point to a suspect or evidence LE would get a search warrant regardless to head off any Defense calm later on.
100%
 
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Is he suggesting she wandered off? If she wasn't taken alive, she was still taken but I agree kidnapping may have been an afterthought.
It's likely the same as all the other cases when a person vanishes from the home overnight, adult or child. We've seen it a hundred times already.

My opinion only.
 
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I think the most perplexing part of this case is that the "kidnappers" have not provided proof of life. Isn't that ransom 101. Even if she isn't alive anymore you would think they would have pre-recorded one if they really wanted their money. I think the family would have paid the ransom long ago if proof of life had been provided.
 
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Have seen another interesting theory. SG is strategically "made up" in this latest video to look business-ready; that she is about to pay. And the "appeal" is because the perp has confirmed NG would be "dropped off" somewhere. So she is asking people to keep their eyes peeled.
 
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In a "normal" abduction and ransom, would the perps treat the victim well? For example, could we imagine they would be cooking for NG, maybe letting her read books, play some cards, maybe scrolling TikTok? In the best-case scenario she is still with us?

Depending on who it is.

If these are, as some say, "cartels" or Islamic criminals, or any nuclear society, they do have some respect towards elderly.

If this is someone local who ran out of money spent on meth, no.

JMO.
 
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Yes I agree. It just "feels" off as it seems like she is getting ahead of LE who have been completely quiet?
That's the sense I get too. She and LE have separated a bit? She is taking matters into her own hands and asking for help from the public?
Is this what feels off to you?
 
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Thank you for reminding us all of the desperate nature of this situation. I try to put myself in SG's shoes and it's so painful I have to stop that exercise. I'd literally have to be medicated to get through that. For those who believe in the power of prayer, now is a good time to surround SG with it. I'm afraid her beloved Mom crossed over that first night. How I hope I'm wrong.

Thank you Donswife. We need to be more like those walking Monks spreading peace, praying over people, and handing out flowers...and less like a warped reality show.

Amateur opinion and speculation only
Just curious, you didn’t mention Nancy’s other two children?
 
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Is he suggesting she wandered off? If she wasn't taken alive, she was still taken but I agree kidnapping may have been an afterthought.
I believe he would be leaning towards foul play over wandering off.
 
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Today Brian Entin on Megyn Kelly. The Sheriff's office sounds inexperienced:
MK: Here's what I want to know. Um I want to know whether anybody's been asked to give and or has given a polygraph. Not a peep about that. Is that correct? No one's saying a word.

BE: Not a word. I interviewed yesterday uh a former homicide detective for Pima County uh who was there for 20 years and is now retired. And it's interesting what you were reporting in the beginning of your show. I mean, he says the same exact thing that the there's been so much turnover there that it's a mess at the sheriff's office. Uh and that most of the homicide detectives have like two years experience. And so he's concerned a lot of the veterans like him have left just because they've been upset with the with the department for different reasons. and there was a different sheriff and then another sheriff came back and it's it's been a mess there. Uh but he was telling me that in his 20 years there he never they never once administered a polygraph. That wasn't something that they did as a sheriff's office ever, not even once. But I, yeah, I know.

About the 4:10 mark:


snipped (from former Pima County homicide detective that worked there for 20 years):

he says the same exact thing that the there's been so much turnover there that it's a mess at the sheriff's office. Uh and that most of the homicide detectives have like two years experience. And so he's concerned a lot of the veterans like him have left just because they've been upset with the with the department for different reasons.
 
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If there was anything to actually point to a suspect or evidence LE would get a search warrant regardless to head off any Defense calm later on.
We don't know that LE didn't get a search warrant. they likely did. They ALSO may have asked for, and received, permission. Belt and suspenders approach, and also to see if the party will consent. That may tell you something. Just my opinions, fwiw.
 
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That isn't proof of life though? NG could have told them that a week ago and no longer be around? It's the classic "hold up a copy of today's newspaper" solution I think, or maybe they send a video of Nancy watching SG's latest video?
With AI any video can be fake?
 
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Good points made here about this whole kidnapping thing, being suspicious.

I heard a comment over the weekend, can't remember who said it ... but with all of the 'experts' in everything coming out of the woodwork and especially with retired ones... I keep hearing it in my head...

Old crimes are being committed in new ways

I am not sure that the norm applies here.

JMO
 
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Good points made here about this whole kidnapping thing, being suspicious.


Good points about the process, but some of his more definitive statements are better characterized as assumptions and some of his general understanding perhaps antiquated. I agree that any kidnapping, if it occurred, isn't about ransom in this case. I think if one occurred it is more likely due to a prolonged fixation on SG, perhaps for years, and that this is a perp's triggered reaction to something (probably unrelated), and he/she seeks to regain control by punishing SG for some deluded slight or (name your narcissistic injury).
 
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Yes, her response would have to be immediate, but yeah, they could still kill her. But at least you could deposit money knowing she was alive when you asked 12 hours

JMO, the previous video from SG and family pretty directly addressed the perps. If she wanted to address them again in this one, I think she would have been similarly direct, if not more so. I have a hard time reading anything she said in the most recent video as a message to them.
Just watched the new video. This was a new Savannah that is more clear and resolve about what needs to be done. She's over the initial shock and is no longer at the mental mercy of kidnappers. She's asking for public help and shes not talking to kidnappers anymore. She's come to terms with the situation and hopes to get her mom back, but realizes she may not. This is a Savannah not under the control of a kidnapper or fake ransom letter anymore,. It seems more empowered. Just my .02. A true kidnapper would hate this message as he's no longer in control.
 
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Let us not count. Nancy's children know what to do.

I can only sympathize.
This is reminding me of that awful, tacky countdown timer for the Titan submersible running out of oxygen.

I don’t think the deadline tonight matters honestly, sadly I don’t believe she’s still alive. But if it is real that’s for the family and LE to think about we don’t need to count.

moo
 
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I’ve never believed that any of the family is involved, and I’m angry of the posts that slandered people are written. Honestly, this is not a game of clue but of real life gut wrenching reality. Websluthers would bounce ideas of how to help solve, instead of this social media free for all of opinions and bashing.
Me too, it has been very disturbing to see posts implying, suggesting or outright claiming they had any involvement. This family is suffering.
 
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This is John Hinckley trying to get Jodi Foster's attention all over again. IMO, he has been stalking SG on Instagram. Someone in LE has put it together. SG"s demeanor in her latest video was 1) Taking her control back 2) A feeling of guilt or something that she was somehow indirectly, through her TV exposure the cause of some wacko stalking her and take her mother to gain her attention. Videos posted on Instagram are at stalker's direction. all of this is my opinion. Weird vibe and nuances.. JMO..I think this is the most likely path. SG looks and acts almost guilt-ridden..JMO MOO
 
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I think the most perplexing part of this case is that the "kidnappers" have not provided proof of life. Isn't that ransom 101. Even if she isn't alive anymore you would think they would have pre-recorded one if they really wanted their money. I think the family would have paid the ransom long ago if proof of life had been provided.
I totally agree , why take her? Why take an old woman for seemingly no reason!? Now, we do see the occasional, extremely crazy, situation where they want their own of something so they take someone else’s. Like when a baby is taken out of a pregnant woman. Not pretending I know anything but I completely agree with you. JMO
 

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