AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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No, it is not a game of clue; however, it has been said and still stands to my knowledge that NO ONE has been cleared and they have NO suspects, NO person(s)-of-interest at this time. IF they had said "the family has been cleared" then, of course, they are out of the question for discussion, but that is not the case - at least as of right now.

No one has been cleared, so it stands (within reason) that people will look at those closest to Nancy as that is what the professionals do as well. I personally haven't seen any 'bashing' but maybe I missed it.

Until the family is cleared or a person(s) has been arrested and charged - unfortunately everyone is a suspect.

MOO.
Does that include SG? Asking for a friend...
 
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So many references to robbery here. I haven’t read anywhere that anything is missing. Also, for the time in the home. Did she leave in her nightgown or could she have changed clothes?
 
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This is reminding me of that awful, tacky countdown timer for the Titan submersible running out of oxygen.

I don’t think the deadline tonight matters honestly, sadly I don’t believe she’s still alive. But if it is real that’s for the family and LE to think about we don’t need to count.

moo

Sadly, SG’s demeanor and tone today reminded me of a friend who, many years ago, told me that her father, suffering from chronic illness, had died. His family had fought for him, did everything, hoped for years. So when he died, there was grief but already some acceptance. Here, it looked similar: a strong, smart woman who is grieving but exhausted hope. JMO. SG faith is a supporter, hence it sounds dubious, but I feel that NG is not here.

Also: for sure, the G family has done all by the book, spoke with the specialists. I think that the specialists have advised them that the behavior of the kidnappers was at variance with that of professional abductors. This, too, might be a contributor.
 
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Primarily, I think most who post here are deeply feeling and thinking people, connecting with others who are similar. I have seen very few posts outright slandering SIL or AG, but rather questioning certain things in relation to them. It’s the nature of the beast when an investigation is occurring and no suspect has been named yet. All in all, I think the majority of us mean well:)
Also, Occam’s Razor. Statistically, I’d think that most crimes are committed by those the victim knows in some capacity. Monica Tepe, Drew or Scott Peterson, the GOP gubernatorial candidate from Minnesota today lost her daughter to the husband who killed her. It’s the saddest but most likely explanation- even with strange ransoms notes.
 
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We don't know that LE didn't get a search warrant. they likely did. They ALSO may have asked for, and received, permission. Belt and suspenders approach, and also to see if the party will consent. That may tell you something. Just my opinions, fwiw.
Correct we don't know for sure but so far no one has been able to find one.
 
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I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if we disagree, we should be respectful. Just because someone thinks a family member is or isn’t involved, let them share their thoughts. Yes, I’ve said I think family is involved and I right now I still do. If it turns out I’m wrong, I’ll admit it.
Thank You. EveryONE is entitled to their opinion whether we like it or not and as long as it follows the rules here it shouldn't be an issue. If there was 'bashing' of the family Tricia and the mods would definitely address it.

MOO
 
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I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if we disagree, we should be respectful. Just because someone thinks a family member is or isn’t involved, let them share their thoughts. Yes, I’ve said I think family is involved and I right now I still do. If it turns out I’m wrong, I’ll admit it.
It doesn't have anything to do with family though. The same questions are being asked - who was the last person to see the victim? What were they doing? Where were they when they separated? What did the person who last saw the victim do afterwards? Where did they go? Did they have reason to hurt the person? Does that person have a criminal history? Does that person have a financial motive? - and so on.

In this case that person happens to be a family member by marriage, which apparently rubs some people the wrong way.

My opinion only.
 
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It was stated on one of the podcasts that LE were given permission to search AG home, no search warrant required.
Right not "required" but LE would always cover their bases and have one incase a defense attorney would later claim this or that wasn't agreed.
 
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I don't think there will be any sudden realization at 5 pm mountain time.

The ransom may have already been paid, they don't have to wait til the last minute. And it may not be announced. Along with all the other details.
 
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Why did Chris Watts take his wife and childrens' bodies out of the house? Why did Scott Peterson take his wife's body out of the house? And so on, a hundred times.

My opinion only.

Because each had a plan how to “disappear” them forever? Chris probably spent too much time taking photos of the flowers, and Scott’s one worked, for a while.
 
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I'm with you about the ransom appearing days later. I don't think we know if an initial ransom was sent immediately to the family, or not. DEVIL'S ADVOCATE: Maybe the kidnappers didn't like the fact that LE hadn't announced an original ransom, so they figured they'd go through TMZ, knowing they'd probably release it to the public.

I'm still entirely baffled why people believe it could all be a hoax. NG was obviously taken from her home - call it what you want, a kidnapping or abduction. If LE thought they were dealing with a homicide, they definitely wouldn't have NG's kids pleading for her return on national television all these days later. Regardless whether NG is alive or not (I hope the latter isn't the case), it would be difficult for kidnappers to care for an immobile, 84-year old woman with a pacemaker, in need of daily medication. You know what else would be difficult? Removing a body from her home, then trying to find a place to hide it.

FWIW, I am totally stumped.
Because the Jon Benet ransom note was a hoax.

If they were truly serious about holding someone and extorting and this being a business deal, they would have been "on it" right away.

Instead, they wait a few days...and...then they wait a few more and.....

There is not ongoing communication. If this was a real ransom, they would have written that letter and wired it as soon as they abducted her. Instead, it seems like the found a story that was media sensation and decided to exploit it. And then they didn't have a response for three days after the first email. This just seems like someone who saw this in the media and decided to exploit it ALL MOO

There was a mom over in Texas with a missing daughter and she got ransom texts constantly. She showed her phone and said, "This is my life now". The girl was found a few days after she disappeared, but for some reason it took five years to identify her. So con artists took advantage and created ransom notes left and right.

That's just how I see it..
 
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Do we think the family was advised not to pay?
 
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I am waiting for LE to tell me they are not involved. My interest only peaked in that direction since Nancy was with family the night before and it was reported that 'family' was the last to see her (at least that was said in the beginning.)

LE always looks closely at the victims family/friends first. I personally haven't seen any victim bashing here, because the mods don't allow it, but if I missed it please let me know.

^^^ in MY opinion ^^
Tricia explained that it is okay to consider AG and TC and talk about it here. She just asks that we use initials. If it okay with her then that should be it.
 
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Seems "victim blaming" to suggest the family is involved, especially when there isn't anything to suggest they were.
I wouldn't say there isn't anything to suggest family. It has been said, even on this forum, that random kidnappings are extremely rare. They often involve people close - and since NG wouldnt have business associates, a scorned lover, and any other non-familial person that makes sense - to look at family or in-laws is reasonable.
 
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Do we think the family was advised not to pay?
i think they were given some information about the ransom demands that might mean they are deemed a hoax?
 
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Right not "required" but LE would always cover their bases and have one incase a defense attorney would later claim this or that wasn't agreed.
I also wonder if consent was given by both owners or just one?
 
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Seems "victim blaming" to suggest the family is involved, especially when there isn't anything to suggest they were.


Then all investigations are victim blaming, as statistically it is your family and friends that are most likely to commit a crime against you, and that's where LE and media always look first.

The last people seen with the missing person are the daughter and son in law.. The investigators are obviously looking at that and since they haven't publicly excluded them speculation will run rampant. For those innocent it sucks, I get it.That's "web sleuthing". It is what it is.

What further complicates this case is we really don't know what happened. If there was an actual abduction, if there was another initial crime, if the ransom angle is an unrelated opportunistic scam. It just is still in essence a missing person. The investigation has shed no definitive light on these issues yet, and have no obligation to the public. Again, it is what it is.
 
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I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if we disagree, we should be respectful. Just because someone thinks a family member is or isn’t involved, let them share their thoughts. Yes, I’ve said I think family is involved and I right now I still do. If it turns out I’m wrong, I’ll admit it.
When I post in cases like this I try to put myself in the families shoes and think how I would feel being accused. Their children also may see this as it is here forever.
Saying sorry later after damning someones reputation does not heal that pain. These people are already suffering enough.
I wait until LE has a POI. IMO.

Sadi this is not directed at you, just responding.
 

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