• #15,721
Can someone tell me WHICH Circle K provided the surveillance video? MSM consistently reports it is one on Oracle Road. As a 40+ year Tucson resident I struggled to remember one on Oracle. A quick google maps check did not find one either. There are a few close to Oracle though.
I checked the other day and I believe it’s this one.
2332 N Oracle Rd, Tucson, AZ 85705
 

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The SIL claim was clickbait. Neither the SIL nor AG are involved. If authorities even had a tiny suspicion they were, then they would have search warrants. I know crime stats show there's a connection between last person to see a victim but LEs actions prove they are not suspects at this time.
I do think AB’s law enforcement contact felt that the SIL may be a prime suspect. And the official saying that to a reporter (AB) knew it would be reported. Hard to fathom the LE officer’s intentions here.
 
  • #15,723
I know an elderly woman who's 87 and she and friends call each other each morning to let the others know they're still alive, so you never know.
How depressing. 😔 But I get your point.
 
  • #15,724
They have searched the house but didnt need search warrants.
If they didn't have a search warrant than anything they found would likely be barred from evidence at trial.
 
  • #15,725
The SIL claim was clickbait. Neither the SIL nor AG are involved. If authorities even had a tiny suspicion they were, then they would have search warrants. I know crime stats show there's a connection between last person to see a victim but LEs actions prove they are not suspects at this time.
Any evidence or rational argument for your claim that the SIL thing is clickbait? Any evidence that AG nor SIL are involved or that there were no search warrants? What actions have LE taken that "prove" they are not suspects at this time?

That was all your opinion you are posting as fact.
 
  • #15,726
I have looked is there a help F&Q Section with what sites cannot be used?
You can use the search function—type in “Fox News”, looking “everywhere”, then filter to posts from @tricia. However, Fox News is now allowed for this thread!
 
  • #15,727
The more I think about it, I think the ransom requests are from a third party who has nothing to do with the murder or kidnapping.

If you kidnapped some old lady and wanted money you would move the earth to prove to the family that you had the person. You would ask them Secrets only they would know, there would be dozens of things I could think of. Not the location of an Apple watch or some BS broken floodlight. If anything maybe some law enforcement person leaked that location and someone used it to craft the ransom. In the digital age all he would need is a way to cloak his internet location and a bitcoin wallet.
 
  • #15,728
I believe its this one Google Maps

Based on local news reporters being on scene and appearing to report from the Grant Rd side by the dumpsters

Have you seen the video where the store clerk is showing the footage of Agents (or officers) at CK to a female reporter ??
 
  • #15,729
In the circumstances, surely TC would've been publicly cleared if there wasn't even a tiny suspicion ???
It's inconsistent. I've seen police do that, and I've seen them not do that (they publicly cleared several people who had been accused on social media in the Idaho4 case. My sense here is they probably would, just because of the media attention and the impact of what AB put out.

But I've also followed cases where they haven't done that, when in retrospect they should have.

So them not doing that is not a definite sign of anything.
 
  • #15,730
Thank you for this.
Is this newly released information?
Another poster stated earlier that someone had talked with her pastor and I asked them for a link since I hadn't heard that but they never got back to me.

My question is why did the New York Times state that a friend contacted the family when Nancy wasn't sitting in her pew?

Is there virtual pews?
In the ones I have attended online basically you have a camera showing the service and then possibly a chat underneath but that is in Ireland and England. I guess it could be different in America.
 
  • #15,731
My opinion is that the New York Times transposed the Sheriff's initial statement and took liberty with words, saying they didn't see her in her pew.

No fact checking occurred, obviously.

From here on out I'm never giving another hypothesis without a "confirmed" fact.
😂
 
  • #15,732
No, the FBI does not automatically investigate a case just because they are asked to
. The FBI only has the authority to open an investigation if there is a potential violation of federal law and the case meets certain internal criteria.

Just because in the end there’s not a federal prosecution doesn’t mean there wasn’t a strong indication of POTENTIAL violation of federal law initially.
And POTUS stated early on that he was making All Federal LE available in this case. Trump says he's "deploying all resources" to get Savannah Guthrie's mom Nancy home
 
  • #15,733
I know an elderly woman who's 87 and she and friends call each other each morning to let the others know they're still alive, so you never know.
Yes, if seniors and elderly live alone, they often have buddy groups who check in with them every day. Our city has a program for seniors or elderly people who live alone and want to be on a list for a daily check-in call if they have no other people checking on them. It's a program provided with funds from the state of Ohio. But lots of people have relatives, church buddies, neighbors, or others to check in with them.

edited to add: for seniors or elderly who live alone
 
  • #15,734
I don’t understand why the FBI is involved. They think this is an interstate or national level case because it is the mother of a TV host? It seems like if this is going to drag on for months, they have to justify why federal taxpayers have to pay for this long investigation when so many benefits have been cut for the common man. They should probably trust local LE to take it from here. MOO
 
  • #15,735
Wonder if they can do geofencing in that area to see what cell phones were in the area at the time of the activity linked to her being taken. Or maybe they are following up on that if it was done?

FBIs job with the high tech digital forensic equipment will have been gathering that data
 
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  • #15,736
How depressing. 😔 But I get your point.
I don't find it depressing. I hope I have friends that care about me when I get to that age.
 
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  • #15,738
What's the specific time-frame for holding someone for questioning before making an arrest or letting them go? 48 hrs? Is Federal detention longer?

After arrest you have 48 hours to take them before a judge for arraignment. If you're just questioning them, it's shorter.

 
  • #15,739
I’m sorry if this has been addressed, but if SIL were to be a suspect, what do you think were his movements in theory? Did he drop off NG, leave, and come back around the time the cameras were turned off? Did he drop her off and never actually leave the driveway, lying in wait until she went to bed? Or did he go inside with her? Do you think they maybe had a disagreement on the way home?

I saw the discussion earlier about how people were unhappy we were suspecting family members, and I don’t feel strongly one way or the other, so this is all theoretical.
 
  • #15,740
But in just a single service to notice that NG didnt comment so the person makes a call to the family? If I missed a friends chat comments in one service, I would assume they didn’t feel well, took a weekend trip or even missed an alarm. If they didn’t show up for the following Sunday I would check in with them.
If the two women were close friends and NG has said that she would be at the church service and did not show up, it would be worrying. Especially if NG had always been responsible. Usually older female friends would send a text or call and say I am sick, cannot go to church today so as not to worry the friend. It would be rude to no show and not say anything to your friend.
 
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