AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Cipher Vale]

Like a body bag?

Why would someone bring a body bag?

 

[BurnerForDaddy]

Why wait a week to release these photos?

 

[jeff2034]

So the FBI sat on these photos which POTUS had alluded to in a previous statement instead of getting them out to the public ASAP. Instead, they decided a media spectacle with their director was more important.

It's possible they were hesitant to release the images/video with the ransom note and the Monday deadline. Since that has passed, they now felt comfortable releasing it.

 

[nycpizzaparty]

In this photo, what are the shiny objects at his feet?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021281103454072983

Just a doorknob and door lock, perspective is off as the camera is very close to these.

 

[waldojabba]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021299768933371949

 

[The OG]

I know nothing about guns but can’t help but think that’s an awkward way to carry one.

Takes practice to unholster, but actually provides better concealment and mobility

 

[stmichael]

Good eye! I know a bit about guns and it is a very strange way to carry a firearm. So weird and awkward.

Fast moving thread. but as a gun guy who carried a sidearm on the job I covered it a few pages back.

It's called appendix carry and not uncommon at all in concealed carry. It IS odd how he has it hanging long in the front. BTW in earlier frames he seems to have it concealed then he pulls it front and forward as he approaches the door (brazen, leaving no doubt of intention there). It is oriented for a right hand draw. Seems like a poly late gen semi auto in a mismatched longer (almost revolver style) holster.

The advantages of appendix carry are 1. quick access/fast draw 2. visible intimidation factor
Disadvantage; uncomfortable, and cumbersome

 

[osu]

Do we know, forgive for what is probably the dumbest question ever, what flowers grow by the walkway at NG's house?

@Friday Fan posted up thread that the plant is called Trailing purple lantana. Here’s a link to the post.

AZ - Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

 

[HoveringWombats]

Apologies if this has already been said but should we assume Nancy had already been disabled inside the house when this video was taken?

Don't those ring cameras alert you to movement on the doorstep?

I thought that was the whole point of them

My cameras alert me to movement, but I also have my phone in Sleep mode at night. I don't want to get woken up every time the neighbor's cat walks through the back yard. I don't know what other people do, but I'd be surprised if most people have their phones set to wake them up for camera notifications. And (this might be unverified, so JMO) if NG wore hearing aids and didn't have them in at night, she might not have heard it even if there was an alert. I don't think it is at all a safe assumption that she must have already been disabled if she didn't get and act on a notification about motion at the door.

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZ]

In this photo, what are the shiny objects at his feet?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021281103454072983

The doorknob and lock.

 

[Justice101]

I think I'm all caught up for this millisecond (phew!), so hopefully none of this is repetitive (though probably 10 posts will come while I am typing...). Apologies if it is. A few things I wanted to address, all JMO:

1. It looks like these are infrared videos. You're not going to be able to discern any color of anything (skin, eyes, shoes, backpack, etc.) from these, and things may sometimes look much darker or lighter than they would in regular lighting. Be very cautious about conclusions based around color or shade based on these images.
2. If you have a cloud-based camera like a Nest (in this case) or a Ring, even if you don't have a subscription, yes of course all of the video goes to the cloud. If it didn't, it would be impossible for you to view the video in the app and to get alerts. All of that stuff is cloud-based, even if you don't pay for storage. The subscription just controls whether they keep history or not.
3. The existence of these clips is not proof that Google retains all Nest video history even if you're not paying for it. In fact, I am extremely confident that they do not. Even putting aside any privacy issues, the cost of doing this for people who are not paying would be astronomical and it has very little value. But that's not to say that it is not stored for a short time, and that pieces of it might not get retained longer for various reasons. These systems are complex, and the video data passes through many points as it is processed. It's likely that some systems store some portion of it in certain cases. My guess is that this is where the clips came from.
4. Retrieving this video is much more complex than someone in Google just logging into a console and grabbing them. My hunch is that this required engineers to do a decent amount of spelunking in the backend to find, and then stitch back together, the images and video before they were usable. It's real work and it takes time. It also definitely would have required involvement from legal counsel before they moved forward with it. We can all wish that they moved faster, but it's not how these things work.
5. There is absolutely zero chance that Google sent anything off to a third party to recover this data, if as stated it came from the backend. "The backend" is servers in Google's datacenters. Google is not sending their servers off for data recovery, and even if they did, there is no data recovery company who would be as well positioned to find what's needed than Google's internal teams would. It would take them exponentially longer to do it.

TLDR I think there is no malfeasance or suspicion in how long it took to get this. It's just complex. And it does not mean that Google is saving everything from every camera forever. They are not. And IR images are not good for determining anything like color or shade.

MOO

Regardless, big Kudos to the technicians who were able to retrieve video from a missing camera that did not have a subscription to the web that actually saves it. How the ^%$# did they do that????

Their forensic abilities are mind blowing.

 

[aafromaa]

Questions for the masses:

1) Was this guy alone? Doubt a kidnapper would work alone to take an 84 year old woman with limited mobility. Since we know she was removed from the house - how? She had limited mobility and this guy is dressed in restrictive clothing. Stats on NG say 150 lbs. That's alot to carry, get in your car, etc. So then motive is robbery- very rare for a robbery to result in the absence of a body.

2) Is there someone else who was at the back door? That 2nd person destroyed the light. This would make it a planned kidnapping. The front door camera being disabled to not record the 2nd person.

3) Is this a botched robbery with two people? Then why remove NG?

4) The camera is clearly triggered with motion outside of the patio. Are there video of a car passing?

I'm supposed to be working but saw your questions and couldn't resist taking a moment to respond....

1) Too soon to know if he was alone but doubtful. Also doubtful robbery was motive - partly because apparently nothing was taken and partly because a robber doesn't enter a house with a backpack full like that - he enters with an empty one so he can fill it up.

2) very possible 2nd person in back yard at same time or even a vehicle waiting to be notified front camera had been removed so car wouldn't be on video

3) not botched robbery - see #1 - IMHO it was either a planned kidnapping or a cover-up of something that had already happened - at the moment I am leaning totally toward a planned kidnapping

4) unlikely a car would have triggered a car driving by on the street but could have if in the driveway - depends on the parameters set by the homeowner as to how far away motion triggers recording - but if a car drove by on camera I'm pretty confident they would have released those pics/vids today too

 

[avalonisland]

This looks like the mask Geyoga 3 Pcs 3 Hole Full Face Mask Cover Ski Mask Winter Balaclava Cap Knitted Face Cover for Winter Outdoor Sports(Black, Army Green, Grey) at Amazon Men’s Clothing store

 

[nycpizzaparty]

Why would someone bring a body bag?

To kill a person, then put them in a body bag so that they could be moved without leaving evidence everywhere. But the blood on the front patio might not fit this scenario.

 

[VicBlazey]

My cameras alert me to movement, but I also have my phone in Sleep mode at night. I don't want to get woken up every time the neighbor's cat walks through the back yard. I don't know what other people do, but I'd be surprised if most people have their phones set to wake them up for camera notifications. And (this might be unverified, so JMO) if NG wore hearing aids and didn't have them in at night, she might not have heard it even if there was an alert. I don't think it is at all a safe assumption that she must have already been disabled if she didn't get and act on a notification about motion at the door.

Same, I keep mine on silent mode at night.

 

[Ellis' Mom]

In the photo at the bottom of this post, what are the shiny objects at his feet? (I don't know how to include the link but not the other photos.)

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021281103454072983

This is like mine--depending on placement, it picks up a closeup of the storm door handle. Pretty sure that's the storm door handle.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Guys, please don't post "enhanced" images you've come across online, or ask AI to enhance them.

People have been doing this in every case lately, and all it does is generate an image that looks absolutely nothing like reality.

Wow thanks.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021299768933371949

oh goodness!

 

[JJIsland]

It really looks to me as though he's holding the latanas with meaning as if to display them. it's spooky even.

1. if he wanted to block the camera, his hand in heavy nitrile type gloves would do and would have been quicker
2. the placement of the flowers in the frame, and holding a mini flashlight in his mouth does not jive with an attempt at blocking


or it could be some clumsy move by an amateur after all, weird vibes even after these pics, just so wonky

Maybe the flowers were used to get a better grip on the camera?

 

[pharmad]

This mask has a Clip on light under the bottom lip, I just can't get a good visual. I don't know of any ski-masks with that attachment

 

[mle94]

Appears to be something hard black plastic sticking out of his pocket here?

I think it was the flashlight he had in his mouth at one point.