• #19,441
4:34 PM PT -- We've seen activity for the first time in the bitcoin account listed in the first ransom note which was sent to us here at TMZ, and also to 2 TV stations in Tucson. For various reasons, we are not going to reveal the amount, but the activity happened in the last 25 minutes.

Potentially big development in the Nancy Guthrie abduction ... our law enforcement sources say whoever kidnapped her from her Arizona home is also from the Tucson area.

Multiple sources involved in the investigation tell TMZ ... the operating theory is that the ransom notes were written by the kidnapper, and those notes provide clues on where the abductor lives.

Nancy Guthrie Kidnapper Likely From Tucson Area, First Activity in Bitcoin Account
I can't lie... Still not convinced the ransom notes are from the person who abducted NG, but I'm willing to eat crow if I'm wrong.

But not a literal crow. I love crows.
 
  • #19,442
I know alittle bit (but not much) about bitcoin, but can anyone please explain how HL would have the kind of access to see activity in the account? Would be able to see if it was a deposit or withdrawal?
With all the claims of accounts being untraceable.
I don't know anything about it, but I know I can see my friends "Venmo" payments (made and received). I rarely use it and immediately changed the settings. That is not everyone's business.
 
  • #19,443
Hopefully this link is ok, to a video of Fox News. I can't seem to find the video myself, but here it is describing the blood droplets continuing from the porch to the edge of the driveway.
Fox Digital News Blood Drops Guthrie Porch
 
  • #19,444
TMZ received the initial ransom note that included the account number. They have monitoring the account for activity, using something like Block Chain. You can see the amount in the account, but not the account holder.

Worth noting that anyone who had the BTC address could send money to it. Hypothetically, anyone who saw one of the ransom notes sent to media could have taken note of the bitcoin address, similar to bad actors who write fake ransom notes.
 
  • #19,445
I know alittle bit (but not much) about bitcoin, but can anyone please explain how HL would have the kind of access to see activity in the account? Would be able to see if it was a deposit or withdrawal?
I believe the account number was revealed in a post/article somewhere.

Bitcoin transaction contain wallets w/a number (similar to an account number).
The information is kept and if that account number is used again, it can be monitored. Apparently, bitcoin is not as secure as previously thought. moo
 
  • #19,446
Wonder if he was surprised there was still footage without the camera. How was he so confident she didnt have a subscription is all I want to know.
 
  • #19,447
I am no expert but since Harvey had the Bitcoin address and was able to see activity. He could see money went in, but it could have been just a small amount, only so they could trace where it went. Yes they can do that. Thus the LE activity. Who knows, just a guess,
Would the bitcoin account holder have to withdraw/move said amount to a different account in order for LE to be able to trace it, or is the act of them depositing some enough?
 
  • #19,448
FWIW, Harvey Levin on CNN just now reported the photos became available this morning and now there is activity in the bitcoin account.
Maybe fbi found the pocket and are wanting to see if it's one and the same perp
 
  • #19,449
No one can track a pacemaker. It doesn't ping off of anything. It's only job is to collect info from the heart and transmit to doctor. Transmitting device was left at her home.
It would be pretty easy for the cops to bring the device to any suspected location of NG to see if it connects. JMO
 
  • #19,450
With all the claims of accounts being untraceable.
I don't know anything about it, but I know I can see my friends "Venmo" payments (made and received). I rarely use it and immediately changed the settings. That is not everyone's business.
Bitcoin accounts' transactions are public, but the address (similar to a routing number) is anonymous.
 
  • #19,451
Steve from Agenda Free TV just said KGUN said the activity in bitcoin account less than $300
 
  • #19,452
  • #19,453
4:34 PM PT -- We've seen activity for the first time in the bitcoin account listed in the first ransom note which was sent to us here at TMZ, and also to 2 TV stations in Tucson. For various reasons, we are not going to reveal the amount, but the activity happened in the last 25 minutes.

Potentially big development in the Nancy Guthrie abduction ... our law enforcement sources say whoever kidnapped her from her Arizona home is also from the Tucson area.

Multiple sources involved in the investigation tell TMZ ... the operating theory is that the ransom notes were written by the kidnapper, and those notes provide clues on where the abductor lives.

Nancy Guthrie Kidnapper Likely From Tucson Area, First Activity in Bitcoin Account
Why is TMZ reporting this info?
 
  • #19,454
  • #19,455
Could the gun and holster have been borrowed or given to perp for this crime? These images are frightening.
I think the gun and holster are simply to use if the guy who is concealing the crime that probably took place earlier 1/31/26 may need to protect himself not to commit crime and abduction of elderly woman. No reason on this planet to remove this older woman unless for money and if she was deceased
 
  • #19,456
I know alittle bit (but not much) about bitcoin, but can anyone please explain how HL would have the kind of access to see activity in the account? Would be able to see if it was a deposit or withdrawal?
He has the account number from the ransom note they recieved monday
 
  • #19,457
Fox reporting less than $300 bucks in bitcoin wallet
 
  • #19,458
Did they put money into bitcoin account and LE FBI are positioned or surveilling to be able to see computer activity from suspect.


imo they would have to... it's a lead... I've said it a few times this week.
 
  • #19,459
With this Insta caption and activity in the Bitcoin - did they get proof of life?


i said yesterday when SG posted her video that it her demeanor seemed like they received proof of life. many doubted it, but this makes me even more convinced.

i've believed since the beginning the kidnapper and the person who sent the ransom note were the same or at least connected. this may not have been a perfectly executed plan, but it seems like it was well-planned. there's way too many resources being poured into this for it not to be legit IMO. they wouldn't waste all this manpower, time, and now, money, if they didn't have information to determine that it was seriously credible.

i hope more than anything nancy is found alive.
 
  • #19,460
Local news station KGUN who also has access to the ransom bitcoin account is reporting that the amount deposited is less than $300. Looking for link!

Edit: I see others have posted links. Literally an hour ago my mom said: be careful trusting TMZ! Haha.
 
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