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But one photo shared by FBI Director Kash Patel appears to show the masked individual not wearing a backpack or holster, contrasting other images that do show the gear.

There could be a couple of possibilities for why this photo appears to be different, and we don’t have timestamps to figure out the timeline of when these photos were taken, correspondent and former FBI agent Josh Campbell said.

“It’s possible that if this individual was around that home for quite some time and wanted to do some kind of form of reconnaissance up to the doorway itself,” Campbell said. “Obviously walking up there without a brandished firearm that you could see would certainly be less threatening
 
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I don’t think him holding out the flowers he just seemed to randomly pull out of the walkway, at the spur of the moment, is some type of secret message to LE. That seems a little far fetched.
So does the fact he was blocking the camera with them, especially since he had already approached it and walked back to get some. That sounds more far-fetched to me. Just trying to ponder other reasons he'd do that. I'm not convinced he did what I said, it was an idea I was tossing out.

All JMO.

ETA - Plus, he's not even trying to hide behind them, or use them to block his face. Not from this angle. Nope.

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  • #19,744
I’m watching CNN and just saw the photo of the suspect without the backpack, gun and eyes covered. I wonder when this was? Anyone able to find the pic to link? I have a screenshot from my TV.
IMO its the same guy just washed out in the distance and IR glow. You can just differentiate the black piping across the chest that the other captures have, and as for someone saying the shoes are different--you can barely make them out in the washed out distance. Seems to me he had his gun concealed away from the house and took it out as he approached (for intimidation/readiness) and had the backpack off to the side until his approach.
 
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Yes, anyone who has the wallet address, including the owner of the wallet can see the deposit (including the amount) without logging in anywhere. The same way TMZ and other media saw it.
but how many people have the address?
 
  • #19,746
It's made me a bit ill every time I've thought too much about the suspect pics. I cannot imagine how terrified Nancy must have been. Like something that only happens in movies or your worst nightmares come to life. How could someone put an innocent old woman through that?
 
  • #19,747
Occams razor tells us its to block the

There would be evidence of the murder in the house. I don't think LE has said anything to point to that.

I think the backpack has a change of clothes, rope, possibly foot covers as fibers from a car, home, etc would be picked up in the house.
And perhaps NG phone, apple watch, leftover dinner food, change of clothes, snacks. Backpack seems teen like. Walk is like zig zag. Time to pick the plants.... This seems to be someone who knew no one was home
 
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but how many people have the address?
We don't know, but the question I was answering was whether the account holder (not the right technical term, but it's how the question was phrased) can see it without logging in anywhere. And, because anyone can see it without logging in anywhere, the answer is a clear yes.
 
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The simplest explanation is usually the answer. I wonder if someone at the dinner put something in NGs drink or food to make sure she stayed asleep during the break-in. That guy was in no hurry.
He didn't even seem fazed or nervous about anything. Just every single thing about this case has been bizarre.
 
  • #19,752
Looks like the same guy to me. The jacket is the same. You can see the black line across the chest. The shoes are just in different lighting. I don’t know why he took the backpack off, but it’s the same guy, no backpack.
I know it’s the same guy, but why appear without his gun, backpack and eyes covered?
 
  • #19,753
I'm not sure what to make of this. "I believe they said in case someone was tossing a camera from a car window we're looking throughout the neighborhood."

 
  • #19,754
Would be wild if NG was being held right in the neighborhood. But it always did seem like a local crime. JMO.

I mean, seriously... I stated recently how little groundwork seemed to be done and my thoughts were reiterated by many commentators on News broadcasts just yesterday.

For a high profile case - the least amount of ground searching that I've ever (not) witnessed
 
  • #19,755
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But one photo shared by FBI Director Kash Patel appears to show the masked individual not wearing a backpack or holster, contrasting other images that do show the gear.

There could be a couple of possibilities for why this photo appears to be different, and we don’t have timestamps to figure out the timeline of when these photos were taken, correspondent and former FBI agent Josh Campbell said.

“It’s possible that if this individual was around that home for quite some time and wanted to do some kind of form of reconnaissance up to the doorway itself,” Campbell said. “Obviously walking up there without a brandished firearm that you could see would certainly be less threatening
That picture is taken farther away than the others and shows less detail. It's an infrared camera taking a photo in the dark I think. The resolution is better as the subject comes closer.
 
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I know AI reconstructions and enhancements aren't allowed here. Let me give two examples of the limitations of AI.

1) People tried to use AI to figure out what the Border Patrol guy who shot Renee Good looked like under his mask. But in my opinion, the guy it turned out to be (Jonathan Ross) looked nothing like the extrapolations.

2) In a search for a missing hiker, someone used ChatGPT to "enhance" photos from a drone search. The missing hiker had a dark red shirt and a blue backpack, but in the particular search in question, that wasn't mentioned in the prompts. The person who used ChatGPT excitedly reported to a Facebook group we were in that they'd found a blue and red rectangular shape. But when we older folks looked at the drone photo, we couldn't see that. Was it just our old eyes? It turned out that nothing was there. ChatGPT had hallucinated the shape, possibly based on group member's other queries (or even on queries by other people).

This second example is more concerning. It illustrates that AI can sometimes show what people want or expect to see. As can our eyes and brains. So caution is needed.
 
  • #19,757
Me too. This is all very strange and not in a good way, tbh. And I say that as a true-crime follower.

jmo
Exactly. As much as nosy true-crime fans tend to complain when there's no info, it's usually because keeping that info private is necessary. I keep thinking -- God forbid the perp realizes it's over and decides to take Nancy down with him.
 
  • #19,758
John Miller CNN:

Number of opportunities here:

The items in the video may have been thrown away and could be recovered (backpack, gloves, mask, etc). Someone may see an item and remember seeing it in an unusual spot.

Were they discarded together? Were they purchased together as part of a "mission kit."
 
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Would an Army only helicopter ever be involved in the search like this?
U.S. Army Black Hawk helicopters assisted in the searches for Kyron Horman in Portland, Oregon as they have advanced infrared thermal camera technology onboard.
 
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